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    What a bozo.



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    A bozo?

    Really?

    If he's going to fight the Moron Horde who are so busy delegitimizing my beautiful Constitution, I'll be happy to lend him a pistol to go with that baseball bat.

    A "bozo"?

    REALLY??????
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    I couldn't help but notice Kev that if you put a beard on the guy in the video still he'd bear a striking resemblance to your avatar. And to be clear, I don't mean any offense, but you share a similarity of facial structure, hairline, etc.
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    A silly thread title. The man was speaking metaphorically. Perhaps it was a bad metaphor. Perhaps it was not. But he is certainly not advocating violence.
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    ouldn't help but notice Kev that if you put a beard on the guy in the video still he'd bear a striking resemblance to your avatar. And to be clear, I don't mean any offense, but you share a similarity of facial structure, hairline, etc.
    Like Maloney, I am also of Irish descent. It's a small country.

    ( And get this: My middle name is Sean)

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    . But he is certainly not advocating violence.
    So he was advocating what? Hitting fly balls to his opponents.

    C'mon.

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    after "don't retreat, reload" you're calling out "stand in MY hallway with a baseball bat"?

    riight..

    and here I thought righties liked 'stand your ground'.

    hypocrisy much?


    Bah, I'm with Oz..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakaway View Post
    So he was advocating what? Hitting fly balls to his opponents.

    C'mon.

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    Soooo . . . Defending my beautiful Constitution from the hideous wrecking crew that call themselves Trumpsters is advocating violence?

    Really?


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    after "don't retreat, reload" you're calling out "stand in MY hallway with a baseball bat"?

    riight..

    and here I thought righties liked 'stand your ground'.

    hypocrisy much?


    Bah, I'm with Oz..
    I've never espoused either of those as first response to the threat of violence.

    I hope you two are happy together.

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    Edited to add: Even proponents of," reload don't retreat," apply it or reference it with respect to an immediate threat of violence. No immediate threat of violence is apparent in the congressman's video. He suggests resorting to violence to combat those opposed to his lifestyle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakaway View Post
    So he was advocating what? Hitting fly balls to his opponents.

    C'mon.

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    Not much different than open carry Breakaway; a deterrent does not automatically turn to violence.

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    He was advocating change, of course.
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    Not much different than open carry Breakaway; a deterrent does not automatically turn to violence.
    In the video he relates a specific scenario in which political opponents--not thieves or perceived violent criminals of some sort-- are outside his door and he stands ready with a bat.



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    He was advocating change, of course.
    Yes, but by an appropriate means?

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    Oh PUHLEEZE....
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    “I feel like there’s a group of men who have shown up with Donald Trump in the front yard and they’re getting ready to tear this house apart,”
    “And I’m going to stand in the hallway with a baseball bat, because I don’t have a choice. My kids are upstairs asleep.”

    Do you really have a problem with this Kevin? If so, please explain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakaway
    Yes, but by an appropriate means?
    He is running for political office, correct? He is asking for votes. I consider that to be an appropriate means toward change.
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    On reflection.... if you are determined to take the man's words literally I will bow out of this discussion. There is really nothing more I can say to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakaway View Post
    In the video he relates a specific scenario in which political opponents--not thieves or perceived violent criminals of some sort-- are outside his door and he stands ready with a bat.



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    A group of people led by Trump! OKAY, are you saying that the KKK which Trump tacitly supports and who support The Donald couldn't be the ones at his door Breakaway? I'm pretty sure it would be a bunch of nuns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Montgomery View Post
    On reflection.... if you are determined to take the man's words literally I will bow out of this discussion. There is really nothing more I can say to you.
    I've always found Kevin to be reasonable, perhaps he's having a bad day.
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    I too have always thought Kevin to be reasonable - and often entertaining/funny.

    I don't see this ad as inciting. I took it as a metaphor - not that he was threatening anyone. I thought he was just using strong language to show how much he disagrees with Trump supporters.

    I guess it all depends on one's point of view, eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulf
    I've always found Kevin to be reasonable, perhaps he's having a bad day.
    Yeah. I don't feel like arguing with one of the good guys.
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    Yeah... bad thread title. Due to a faulty interpretation of the video, methinks.
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    ^ some of you have missed a few threads..

    after "don't retreat, reload" you're calling out "stand in MY hallway with a baseball bat"?

    riight..

    and here I thought righties liked 'stand your ground'.

    hypocrisy much?


    Bah, I'm with Oz..

    I've never espoused either of those as first response to the threat of violence.
    Having no desire to go through old threads to document, I still call b.s. on you not espousing/supporting even violent 'stand your ground'.

    And unless you can come up with your (old thread) decrying Palin's admonition, I'll accept your support that too.

    Either way, the rww's/christians _are_ attacking the constitution.. as well as people in the streets & we will have to respond.. and not all defenders of the constitution and freedom own baseball bats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakaway View Post
    I've never espoused either of those as first response to the threat of violence.

    I hope you two are happy together.

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    Edited to add: Even proponents of," reload don't retreat," apply it or reference it with respect to an immediate threat of violence. No immediate threat of violence is apparent in the congressman's video. He suggests resorting to violence to combat those opposed to his lifestyle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakaway View Post
    In the video he relates a specific scenario in which political opponents--not thieves or perceived violent criminals of some sort-- are outside his door and he stands ready with a bat.



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    Lifestyle? Is he not entitled to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness?

    If Donald Trump had gathered a bunch of men together in YOUR front yard and they were getting ready to tear YOUR house apart, would you just skin out the back door and hope your kids survive?

    How would YOU characterize a bunch of men gathered together in your front yard with the intention of tearing your house apart?

    I think the term 'violent criminals' is a fair description.

    I think you need to familiarize yourself with 'metaphor'.
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    Kevin, please look up the definitions of "allegory" and "metaphor" and then reconsider what the guy said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Durnik View Post
    ^ some of you have missed a few threads..



    Having no desire to go through old threads to document, I still call b.s. on you not espousing/supporting even violent 'stand your ground'.

    And unless you can come up with your (old thread) decrying Palin's admonition, I'll accept your support that too.

    Either way, the rww's/christians _are_ attacking the constitution.. as well as people in the streets & we will have to respond.. and not all defenders of the constitution and freedom own baseball bats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakaway View Post
    Congressman Running for AG Espouses Violence
    does this make you want to vote for him?
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    Do you really have a problem with this Kevin? If so, please explain.
    Yes, I have a problem with someone suggesting violence is appropriate response to a conflicting viewpoint.

    To charges his words were, perhaps, ill-chosen, I submit that they were not made in the heat of a reporter gathering a sound-byte or during a live speech. This was an ad, scripted and rehearsed. He probably took four or five takes until his handlers were satisfied that he imbued the words, " baseball bat," with just the right tone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakaway View Post
    Yes, I have a problem with someone suggesting violence is appropriate response to a conflicting viewpoint.

    To charges his words were, perhaps, ill-chosen, I submit that they were not made in the heat of a reporter gathering a sound-byte or during a live speech. This was an ad, scripted and rehearsed. He probably took four or five takes until his handlers were satisfied that he imbued the words, " baseball bat," with just the right tone.

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    You do understand that a 'fight' doesn't have to be physical, right?

    If the doctors want to fight cancer, should I assume they're advocating violence?

    Maloney used a metaphor, and you are all 'up in arms' about it.

    This guy did NOT.

    Those are actual quotes.

    Where were you when he spewed these incitements to violence?

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    kevin, i don't recall you taking this hard of stand against trump when he espoused violence against protestors, minorities, the press at his rallies?

    did you vote for hillary?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    kevin, i don't recall you taking this hard of stand against trump when he espoused violence against protestors, minorities, the press at his rallies?

    did you vote for hillary?
    I don't recall so much as a murmur.

    I think Kevin may have issues with Maloney's 'lifestyle'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakaway View Post
    Yes, I have a problem with someone suggesting violence is appropriate response to a conflicting viewpoint.

    To charges his words were, perhaps, ill-chosen, I submit that they were not made in the heat of a reporter gathering a sound-byte or during a live speech. This was an ad, scripted and rehearsed. He probably took four or five takes until his handlers were satisfied that he imbued the words, " baseball bat," with just the right tone.

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    Kevin, Kevin, please. Like others I have always found you a reasonable guy but if you persist in re-scripting what was said, that view must change. Conflicting viewpoint? Tearing your house down is a conflicting viewpoint? Get with it. It is all metaphor in both instances of the tearing the house down as well as the stand in the hallway with a ball bat. Really mild stuff compared to rants from Trump on inflicting violence on those who are at his rallys with a "conflicting viewpoint"
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    Originally Posted by Paul Pless

    kevin, i don't recall you taking this hard of stand against trump when he espoused violence against protestors, minorities, the press at his rallies?

    did you vote for hillary?
    My feelings towards event attendees was made known: if you show up at a place I rented just so you can be disruptive, then you will be removed. Want your point of view heard? Go rent your own hall.

    As for minorities, and the press, please provide citations where specific acts of violence were suggested.

    I did vote for Hillary (gag).

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    O please. Advocating violence. What utter BS.

    If you want to parse his words, he said they were poised to tear the house apart ( hyperbole ). So his response would be to stand alert with a baseball bat ( also hyperbole ). Any other deduction is sophistry at best, and regressive spittle flecked raving at worst.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakaway View Post
    My feelings towards event attendees was made known: if you show up at a place I rented just so you can be disruptive, then you will be removed. Want your point of view heard? Go rent your own hall.

    As for minorities, and the press, please provide citations where specific acts of violence were suggested.

    I did vote for Hillary (gag).

    Kevin
    So, you'd evict trump and his trumpeters Breakaway? Right, I bet you would. And you have no proof of voting for Hillary or not so can't be verified.

    Reminds me of a particular SOS who said he voted for Hillary. Only problem is, he spelled her name wrong. Now that's telling me right there that he was full of BS.

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