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    Default Re: Looking for Gougeon "Elder Care" plans, modeling, anything!

    Quote Originally Posted by upchurchmr View Post
    I've tried pushing that one on others.

    I dislike plywood shapes.
    This one will be strip planked.

    Thanks
    At higher froude speeds these are capable of, a chined hull is more efficient hydrodynamically. A 'round' strip n glass boat will be heavier and slower.
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    Default Re: Looking for Gougeon "Elder Care" plans, modeling, anything!

    I really appreciate the comments.

    But how hard is it that I like strip planked and Elderly care??
    If I wanted chines, I can put them in a strip planked boat, like the Chipmunk Kayak shown above.

    I really don't like plywood planked boats. I have a kayak that's done that way, I would get rid of it but my wife won't let me.

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    Default Re: Looking for Gougeon "Elder Care" plans, modeling, anything!

    Try reaching out to Chris Ostlind.

    18ft Collage is strip plank but a bit more boat than Elderly Care:-





    He's designed quite a few small tri's of this type and sit on tops etc. Some were ply some were strip plank I think. Fast 17 was one. A18 I think another. Did some work with Watertribe to make an 'ideal EC boat'. Works on CAD which will benenfit strip plank.

    http://lunadadesign.net/category/trimarans/

    May have something in his locker just right or commision the design from him just how you want it.
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    Default Re: Looking for Gougeon "Elder Care" plans, modeling, anything!

    I've watched Ostlind's illustrations for a long time.
    He dissappeared for about 10 years.
    One of the boats in an article on Duckworks was never finished.
    Duckworks said they were no longer carrying his designs when I inquired.
    There was a serious lack of anything but the illustrations.
    So I decided not to go there.

    Perhaps he has restarted. I'll wait to see if anyone builds something.

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    Default Re: Looking for Gougeon "Elder Care" plans, modeling, anything!

    I think he suffered with some mental illness which wax and wanes. I'd imagine that it would be easier to manage off 'the internet'. None of us are perfect. I'd still consider reaching out through his email. You want that type of boat and it's clearly what he enjoys designing.

    Richard Woods might be worth talking to also. Does generally bigger stuff but knows his onions. Some of his are strip planked.

    The easiest thing to do might be to buy a Hobie Adventure Island. Easy resale too.
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    Default Re: Looking for Gougeon "Elder Care" plans, modeling, anything!

    Edward,

    I want an Elderly Care clone.

    I don't want an illustration and I don't want plastic.

    I know everyone wants to help, but I've spent 40 years refining my desires.

    I'd be happy for you to reach out to Ostlind and report back. Don't do it for me.

    Marc

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    Default Re: Looking for Gougeon "Elder Care" plans, modeling, anything!

    Quote Originally Posted by upchurchmr View Post
    Wade,
    Why does the motion have to be controlled?
    The motion will naturally be limited by the length of the ama on the wave formation.
    There is not going to be a lot of motion until you really shouldn't be out there.

    If you want control, why not fix the ama to the aka, and let torsion of the aka control position of the ama?
    --- I don't know. Maybe to avoid having the amas pinwheeling around the aka bearing in a weird situation? I suggest seeing if Alan Stewart will talk to you (he works at B&B Yacht Designs with Graham Byrnes, so e-mail him there). Alan is a nice guy, and if he is not going crazy with work or out cruising, I think he could explain some things -- he may well know about Elderly Care than any of us (he certainly studied it up close). He built his own version of Elderly Care (but you probably know that), sort of, though differing in some major ways (ama volume, particularly: he had to stow his whole rig inside the hull to paddle the boat as a kayak down a hundred miles of river in the Ultimate Florida Challenge). I believe he too used this line-limiter on the amas? Perhaps it adjusts the ama attitudes in different seas? I don't know....I am a solid-attachment ama man. -- Wade

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