Fire-Drake Falls from Grace

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  • Pitsligo
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 2225

    #31
    Re: Fire-Drake Falls from Grace

    ...if I made a slot in the transom for the OB to kick up, there goes the aesthetics as far as I am concerned.
    I'm glad I'm not the only one to sometimes consider brute pragmatism secondary to aesthetics. Then again, I haven't even managed to figure out a good way to mount an outboard *anywhere* aboard Bucephalus, so I'm hardly one to talk.

    Thank you for this thread, Alex. I've been bookmarking your "series" as a cruising guide to pore over during winter dreaming.

    (The other) Alex

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    • Yeadon
      ๐“† ๐“†Ÿ ๐“†ž ๐“†
      • May 2006
      • 10516

      #32
      Re: Fire-Drake Falls from Grace

      Just read this thread. Shocking.
      Originally posted by James McMullen
      Yeadon is right, of course.

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      • Bruce Bateau
        Shallow Water Wanderer
        • Sep 2016
        • 546

        #33
        Re: Fire-Drake Falls from Grace

        Alex, I appreciate the tale. Thanks for all the details. It gives a fellow in a motorless boat a lot to think about when that day comes that I run the Inside Passage, in whatever form that takes. I almost bought a Garden designed Eel a while back and that seemed like an ideal boat for the trip- it just wasn't so useful for all the other pursuits that I have, so I'm sticking with my Arctic Tern.

        And good on you for being on the water in any form. When you're outside, you win.
        Tales from the land and sea: http://terrapintales.wordpress.com/

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        • auscruisertom
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2011
          • 3527

          #34
          Re: Fire-Drake Falls from Grace

          Wonderfull story and pictures thank you.
          I spent around a decade living and sailing around Port Hardy and Nanaimo and while I met a number of small boat cruisers, engineless boats other than kayaks where unheard of in those days.
          Unless a camp cruiser does not have a timetable to adhere to an engine represents prudent seamanship in that part of the world.

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          • AJZimm
            Seasoned
            • Sep 2008
            • 2142

            #35
            Re: Fire-Drake Falls from Grace

            Originally posted by Yeadon
            Just read this thread. Shocking.
            I know. Who would have thought it would come to this?

            When I was mounting the outboard on Fire-Drake for the first time, in my driveway, my next door neighbour, a retired commercial diver, asked "Isn't that against your religion?"
            Alex

            โ€œNo matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.โ€ - Robert "Hoot" Gibson, Astronaut

            http://www.alexzimmerman.ca

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            • AJZimm
              Seasoned
              • Sep 2008
              • 2142

              #36
              Re: Fire-Drake Falls from Grace

              Thanks for the good words, guys.

              It's always fun to share the experiences.

              Soon I will probably turn into one of those boring old farts who won't shut up about how great they were when they were younger.
              Alex

              โ€œNo matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.โ€ - Robert "Hoot" Gibson, Astronaut

              http://www.alexzimmerman.ca

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              • signalcharlie
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2013
                • 869

                #37
                Re: Fire-Drake Falls from Grace

                Thanks for the thoughts on motor location, seems best to keep heading down the KISS trail.

                Cheers!
                Cheers
                Kent and Skipper
                Small Boat Restoration blog

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                • Dave Lesser
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 2477

                  #38
                  Re: Fire-Drake Falls from Grace

                  Originally posted by Yeadon
                  Just read this thread. Shocking.
                  Originally posted by AJZimm
                  I know. Who would have thought it would come to this?
                  I saw it coming

                  One of the great things about this forum is that we don't all have to accumulate the same scar tissue.
                  AJ Zimm

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                  • dsimonson
                    dreaming in wood
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 180

                    #39
                    Re: Fire-Drake Falls from Grace

                    ^^ haha, Dave, good foresight!

                    Another great trip log, Alex, thank you so much for bringing us along! (I'm glad you found your way down from Grace, I'm sure we'll all be following you sooner or later.)

                    All the best,
                    Dale
                    Sailing Scamp #162: LUNA (photos)

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                    • rbgarr
                      43.50.918 N, 69.38.583 W
                      • Apr 1999
                      • 25479

                      #40
                      Re: Fire-Drake Falls from Grace

                      Your near miss in fog with the ferry was VERY fortunate. Although there are few guarantees in fog, using a VHF to call out your position, speed and course with some frequency is good practice. Just last week a 60 foot racing sloop appeared out of the fog less than 150 feet off in the fog heading on the opposite course from us. The closing speed was likely ten knots so I had about five seconds to recognize and turn. We'd been calling out our position, speed and direction between buoys but never heard similar calls from any other boat. It would have been very bad for everyone had we hit.

                      Some standard advice here:

                      "... call out a brief "sรฉcuritรฉ" on the VHF radio giving your position, course, vessel name, and type. But if there are too many boats around you, this may become counterproductive if everyone is calling. Use your best judgment as to when to transmit. ALWAYS listen for other calls and respond if prudent.

                      When you give your position, it may be appropriate to give... your latitude and longitude... speed... also your position relative to a known ATON or landmark. Many skippers are so busy in fog that by the time they determine the location of a lat/long position, it may be too late. Some commercial vessels and large yachts with sophisticated equipment can tell quickly what your lat/long means to them and will probably know your location, speed, and bearing. But you won't know whether the other vessel is so equipped. Obviously, an automatic identification system (AIS) can be invaluable in a fog situation. However, there will still be vessels, as well as other objects, not equipped with AIS."
                      For the most part experience is making the same mistakes over and over again, only with greater confidence.

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                      • Ben Fuller
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2000
                        • 4477

                        #41
                        Re: Fire-Drake Falls from Grace

                        Seems to me that there once was this thing called a foghorn, maybe a bell? Hard if you are single handing but not so bad if there is crew. My guess is that 60 footer had some idling rail meat.
                        Ben Fuller
                        Ran Tan, Liten Kuhling, Tipsy, Tippy, Josef W., Merry Mouth, Imp, Macavity, Look Far, Flash and a quiver of other 'yaks.
                        "Bound fast is boatless man."

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                        • AJZimm
                          Seasoned
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 2142

                          #42
                          Good advice on getting on the blower with a securite. I don’t know why I didn’t think of it at the time. I do have a manual sound-maker, which makes a piercing sound and which I used but I always have trouble with nailing down the direction of someone else’s horn.
                          In this case I was able to get to water too shallow for the ferry pretty quickly but there were a few tense moments before that.


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                          Alex

                          โ€œNo matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.โ€ - Robert "Hoot" Gibson, Astronaut

                          http://www.alexzimmerman.ca

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                          • AJZimm
                            Seasoned
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 2142

                            #43
                            AIS is awesome. I’m sitting in Sausalito at this moment, having come in yesterday afternoon after sailing down the coast with Dave and Rosemary Lesser in LaVieEnRose.
                            AIS enabled us to keep track of other boats with AIS in low visibility, such as the middle of the night in fog, of which there was a fair amount. However not all boats have AIS which is why we kept watches 24/7


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                            Alex

                            โ€œNo matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.โ€ - Robert "Hoot" Gibson, Astronaut

                            http://www.alexzimmerman.ca

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