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    I just finished reading “The Long Way” by Moitessier. Very interesting. Great descriptive writing, and a beautiful take on sailing. But man the French and their busy brains sometimes!

    That got got me looking at the current and in progress retro version of the race. I didn’t know the Sir Robert Knox-Johnston’s boat was an Atkin’s Eric. And there is a new version of this design racing, skippered by Abhilash Tomy. This time in wood composite. Pretty cool!

    https://goldengloberace.com/skipper/abhilash-tom/

    To celebrate India’s heritage in building famous singlehanded yachts in the past (Suhaili and Lively Lady spring to mind) Abhilash will be racing a replica of Sir Robin Knox-Johnston’s original winner. Work began at the Aquarius shipyard on Goa in 2016, not with the rudimentary adze, bow drill and hand saw that shaped Suhaili in a Bombay shipyard five decades before, but with the latest CAD design and CNC cutting machinery to produce a much lighter wood epoxy composite replica. Thuriya was launched in August 2017 and Cdr.Tomy has been conducting sea trials in the Indian Ocean prior to shipping the yacht to Europe in March 2018.

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    This race is going on right now; is anyone watching it? There is no chatter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt young View Post
    I just finished reading “The Long Way” by Moitessier. Very interesting. Great descriptive writing, and a beautiful take on sailing. But man the French and their busy brains sometimes!

    That got got me looking at the current and in progress retro version of the race. I didn’t know the Sir Robert Knox-Johnston’s boat was an Atkin’s Eric. And there is a new version of this design racing, skippered by Abhilash Tony. This time in wood composite. Pretty cool!

    https://goldengloberace.com/skipper/abhilash-tom/

    To celebrate India’s heritage in building famous singlehanded yachts in the past (Suhaili and Lively Lady spring to mind) Abhilash will be racing a replica of Sir Robin Knox-Johnston’s original winner. Work began at the Aquarius shipyard on Goa in 2016, not with the rudimentary adze, bow drill and hand saw that shaped Suhaili in a Bombay shipyard five decades before, but with the latest CAD design and CNC cutting machinery to produce a much lighter wood epoxy composite replica. Thuriya was launched in August 2017 and Cdr.Tomy has been conducting sea trials in the Indian Ocean prior to shipping the yacht to Europe in March 2018.

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    I'm pretty sure there are Joshua replicas in the race too.

    I think it would be a fantastic race to be part of but I found it a bit boring to follow - probably a criticism of me rather than the race!

    Rick

    PS Apparently there aren't any Joshua replicas in this race. They're to be included in the 2022 race. Along with some more (?) Suhaili replicas.
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    Rustler 36s currently in 4 of the top 5 places, with the prettiest boat in the race, an S&S 36, in 4th. It's a pity Kim Holman isn't around anymore to see this.

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    Yeah not the most short term exciting race to follow, but I do enjoy that I don't have to check in but once a week. That makes it easy to watch. A number of dropouts right off. I don't know if they did it, but I heard that they were going to have the original Joshua and Suhaili be the starting line. If so, that is great.
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    Below is the opinion of the person who handles the minimal sat-phone check in with the sailors. No issues reported, while there has been a number of issues with other boats.


    TOMY
    ..Is enjoying the experience with total passion. He is confident in himself and his boat which is in good shape, no issues reported. He was born to do this again. He is having fun, always smiling and apart from hitting something last night is sailing very well. The isolation is NOT worrying him. 96%
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    Down to ten boats and skippers from 17 at the start, and just rounding Africa. Tomy could do well by just having a boat that doesn’t break too much, hopefully. It is impressive that his Eric hit something “big” and is just fine. A testament to modern wood composite construction.
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    Tomy is doing well, headed into the Southern Ocean. Here he is with the Sir Man himself.

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    Very bad news on Tomy -- https://www.news.com.au/national/aus...8495b7a5af7130

    Injured, dismasted, authorities unable to make contact currently

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    Yes very sad and worrying.
    He and Gregor where rolled and dismasted. I looks like a rescue has been launched. Gregor is somewhat close but has had to hold up and wait for the the storm to pass, then might be able to motor to Tomy’s position after he sorts his boat out, his masts and rig has been cut loose. Don’t know if Tomy’s mast was cut loose or not. In is one message he said severe back pain can’t move.
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    They have recived new text messages. From Tomy and the flowing update on Gregor.

    UNABLE 2 LEAVEBUNK.WILLTRY2CHECKPHONEANDMASTBYDAY Position: 39′ 26.323 S 077′ 29.848 E at 21 Sep 22:44 UTC
    BACK IS EXTREMELY STIFF.DIFFICULT TO. EPIRB AND EXACT SITUATION Position: 39′ 26.298 S 077′ 29.862 E at 21 Sep 22:47 UTC

    Activated EPIRB. Extremely difficult to walk, Might need stretcher, can’t walk, thanks safe inside the boat, Unable to reach 2nd YB3 or anything. Sat phone down.”


    GGR Entrant UKU RANDMAA is 400 miles west and is heading to the area and will also meet with GREGOR who was also dismasted. He will take about three days to reach the site. On the sat phone today Gregor confirmed he is making repairs to his boat and hopes to be able to make way under power toward Tomy. His windvane was damaged when the mast fell down, so he must hand steer now. The Rudder is making strange noises but it seems OK. He is 100 miles to the South West of Tomy and it will take at least one day travelling IF the weather allows. He is not at this time sure when he may get underway.AT 0530 UTC we recieved the following message from GREGOR ..JURY RIG SET.AIMING TO GET FURTHER NORTH

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    That's good to hear, they must have been hit by extremely bad weather, considering that's three boats that have been heavily damaged

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    One wonders whether the high casualty rate in this race may perhaps indicate that old boats are not actually much more seaworthy than new ones. Obviously the motivations, boat sizes and budgets are different to those of the major "pro" races, but that may cut both ways - people in boats without sponsors to please may not push as hard, but the damage rate is still high.

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    Probably more a case of just encountering a more active series of larger weather systems.

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    and 0 weather routing/support to avoid weather systems allowed, even if the boats were fast enough to get out of the way. The indian navy got a photo of the boat

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    Surely there's very little probability that the GG boats are encountering worse weather than the Open 60s that have raced in that area every couple of years over the past couple of decades? After all, the skippers have been getting injured and boats dismasted since they sailed in the area of Cape Town about a month ago so it's not just a single front that's causing the damage.

    Yes, there's no routing allowed but we're still talking about a very high casualty rate. And I don't think the early races in Open 60s allowed routing yet their casualty rate was no higher, if I recall correctly.

    On another note, that Suhaili replica seems to have been performing extremely well until this sad incident.
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    While weather routing does make more sense for high tech fast moving racing yachts, the reality in a slower more traditional vessel is quite different.
    Frequently these systems can be up to a 800 nm wide and from my experience it makes more sense to maintain an approximate compass heading traveling in the desired direction.

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    I was watching that monster low pressure system build, and being glad i was tracking it on a laptop at home, and not watching it chase me from the cabin of a small boat in the Southern Ocean, not that they have that luxuery in the GGR.
    It seems rudders and windvane systems have failed, and now rigs being lost when the boats have rolled. Trying to make a rig strong enough to survive impact of water when sails are set would make for overly heavy rig, if not built from exotics. I think the rudder failures are down to heavy boats have more inertia when rolling than a lighter,beamier boat. A single handed boat might have the tiller lashed off, and may not always have someone on the tiller to bring the transom inline with breaking seas.
    I hope Tommy gets off ok, sounds like he is in pain and in a tight spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris249 View Post
    Surely there's very little probability that the GG boats are encountering worse weather than the Open 60s that have raced in that area every couple of years over the past couple of decades? After all, the skippers have been getting injured and boats dismasted since they sailed in the area of Cape Town about a month ago so it's not just a single front that's causing the damage.

    Yes, there's no routing allowed but we're still talking about a very high casualty rate. And I don't think the early races in Open 60s allowed routing yet their casualty rate was no higher, if I recall correctly.
    traditionally these full keel, larger, displacement fiberglass boats have been considered the safest for cruising long distance though right? It does seem like a lot of failures, but I guess they may be in a better position so far then some of the guys in the Vendee Globe 1997, which sticks in my memory as being fairly calamitous overall.

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    I too hope Tomy gets off the boat OK, he does sound rough. I was happy to see those messages after his first one. And yeah I was watching that low too it was something. I think it was just timing and big as waves that got Tomy and Gregor. The leader of the race was a whole system ahead and has been cruising on through.

    I was curious about all the rudder and self stearing failures early on. Would like to hear more about those causes. I like that the race required the skippers to be able to hoist a jury rig if needed. And that is what Gregor has done and is sailing to Tomy now. So his boat is still sound.?? Maybe Tomy would of done the same thing if he hadn’t been injured. His boat seams to be in decent shape, not counting the mast. She has stayed upright through that storm even with the rig draging.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pelagos View Post
    traditionally these full keel, larger, displacement fiberglass boats have been considered the safest for cruising long distance though right? It does seem like a lot of failures, but I guess they may be in a better position so far then some of the guys in the Vendee Globe 1997, which sticks in my memory as being fairly calamitous overall.
    Yes, as only two boats could have made it home but only one did. Arguably, Tetley's boat would also have made it, and won, of course.

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