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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianW View Post
    That would fall right in line with past exchanges...



    There's lots of reporting on this exchange, all quoting Obama. But where's the proof? I haven't found a transcript or witness to the exchange. Maybe someone else will find it.
    It's right there...next to Trumps TAX statement...
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    So after listening to Trump's remarks, do you really think that Trump told Putin “to cut it out, there were going to be serious consequences if he did not.”?

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulf View Post
    It's right there...next to Trumps TAX statement...
    There’s no requirement for presidential candidates to release their tax returns. It’s safe to assume the IRS has them and would address any issues.
    "Simple minds discuss people, Average minds discuss things, and Great minds discuss ideas".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy W View Post
    So after listening to Trump's remarks, do you really think that Trump told Putin “to cut it out, there were going to be serious consequences if he did not.”?
    I’ve already stated that I doubt it.
    "Simple minds discuss people, Average minds discuss things, and Great minds discuss ideas".

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    America's only hope is that those who failed to vote in the last election will be motivated this time. His disciples will double down and vote for him again.
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    This is what comes of becoming sick of politicians and electing the likes of Donald Trump.
    War is peace.
    Freedom is slavery.
    Ignorance is strength.
    Tribalism is family and extended family.
    Trump is doing beautifully.





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    From the next story on that link it seems that the Dems have their own problems too………..

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

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    Quote Originally Posted by oznabrag View Post
    Someone posted a scenario, I think yesterday, where the real deal on the pee tape is that it turned out to be a snuff film.

    Donald has a history of violence against women, and when the underage prostitute giggled at his 'equipment', he assaulted her and managed to kill her.

    I don't know whether that's true, but it's beginning to seem plausible.


    The man is utterly shameless about insulting absolutely anyone, he feels it is his birthright to cheat anyone out of anything without compunction, he wears his abuse of women (and anybody else) as an accolade, he revels in the power he has to destroy the US Constitution, and has bragged that he could shoot someone in the middle of 5th Ave. and not lose a vote.

    Murdering an underage prostitute because he's impotent/has tiny hands is just about the only thing left that he would even respond to as blackmail.

    AHA! Here's the scenario!


    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin T View Post
    How big of a thing could it be? Could be very big.

    A fiction writer could put together a story line of an individual, before he held the top job in gov't, on a visit to Moscow in a posh hotel room all wired up for video and sound who is being "entertained" by a "Full Girlfriend Experience" worker, perhaps underage, although not necessary for our story.

    So the "big" man is starting to get down to business and brings out his wedding tackle, and in a completely spontaneous outburst the "FGE" worker bursts out laughing at the small size of his "Ronco Pocket Fisherman" rod and reel rig. Might not even be a size issue, could be as simple as being unable to raise the tip of his fishing rod out of the boat.

    The now less than "big" man in a fit of embarrassment and rage picks up the nearest heavy object and bashes the "FGE" worker in the head and kills her. All caught on tape by his patron and filed away for future leverage of a potential stitch up.

    Or maybe he doesn't kill her at all, but can't bear the thought of the reality of his tiny rig being broadcast for all to see and gives away the farm upon attaining the top job. YMMV
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    A lot of people are saying this is probably true.
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    Yeadon is right, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianW View Post
    That would fall right in line with past exchanges...



    There's lots of reporting on this exchange, all quoting Obama. But where's the proof? I haven't found a transcript or witness to the exchange. Maybe someone else will find it.

    It would be nice to have some record of Trump telling Putin to knock it off too.
    kind of astonishing that there was a President of the USA who knew about the Russians meddeling in US election... adn took little to no action but a supposed verbal toung lashing at the side lines of a summit... and kept the fact of Russian meddling secreate from the American Public... Imagine if Trump had done that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Noyes View Post
    kind of astonishing that there was a President of the USA who knew about the Russians meddeling in US election... adn took little to no action but a supposed verbal toung lashing at the side lines of a summit... and kept the fact of Russian meddling secreate from the American Public... Imagine if Trump had done that.
    Meddling. And. Tongue. Secret.

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    What are you doing about it?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Orca View Post
    Meddling. And. Tongue. Secret.

    Did you actually make it past grade six?
    Facts are Soooo annoying huh

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    Ah cain't spull wurth a dang, but I gots the eddy-ma-cayshun to commentate on the suttleties an' mach.. mack... macavelleium intercrazies of globull politickin'...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Noyes View Post
    Facts are Soooo annoying huh
    It's a nothingburger. Unlike Comey, they decided against making an announcement that could sway the election. It's called responsibility. You should look it up.

    What are you doing about it?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Orca View Post
    It's a nothingburger. Unlike Comey, they decided against making an announcement that could sway the election. It's called responsibility. You should look it up.

    Imagine if it was Trump who had credible intell about the Russians actively atempting to influence the election? would you want him to have revealed the exact same info Obama kept quiet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Noyes View Post
    Imagine if it was Trump who had credible intell about the Russians actively atempting to influence the election? would you want him to have revealed the exact same info Obama kept quiet?
    Probably nothing as demonstrated by his rolling over in Helsinki to Putin. And he WAS given the intel about 2016 going to Finland. Who does he blame, America and the Intel agencies. So there's nothing about having to imagine anything, it's happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sky Blue View Post
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    Well the apologists have begun to trickle down, and they seem even less articulate than ever.

    I think the desperation combined with the TDS is beginning to wear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeadon View Post
    A lot of people are saying this is probably true.
    So I've heard.
    The best statement I've seen from this latest carnage came from a student who lived through it -

    "My generation will not allow this to continue!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Noyes View Post
    Imagine if it was Trump who had credible intell about the Russians actively atempting to influence the election? would you want him to have revealed the exact same info Obama kept quiet?
    "Imagine"? By all appearances, he was involved.

    But I'll tell you what. Once you provide precise details on exactly what the Obama administration knew, and a compelling argument for announcing it to the people of the USA despite concerns that it would reveal too much about US intelligence sources, possibly affect the outcome of the election, and without question be portrayed as a partisan attack on both the Republican Party and the integrity of the electoral process, I might agree that it was a bad call.

    Not likely, though.

    What are you doing about it?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Noyes View Post
    Imagine if it was Trump who had credible intell about the Russians actively atempting to influence the election? would you want him to have revealed the exact same info Obama kept quiet?
    I don't know what Obama kept quiet, perhaps you can explain.

    In general, no, I do not want Trump to reveal government secrets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Orca View Post
    "Imagine"? By all appearances, he was involved.

    But I'll tell you what. Once you provide precise details on exactly what the Obama administration knew, and a compelling argument for announcing it to the people of the USA despite concerns that it would reveal too much about US intelligence sources, possibly affect the outcome of the election, and without question be portrayed as a partisan attack on both the Republican Party and the integrity of the electoral process, I might agree that it was a bad call.

    Not likely, though.
    Not knowing all the details, I think it was a brilliant call.

    The intelligence services have had this bozo in their crosshairs ever since, and the mountain of evidence keeps growing, and the circle of those implicated must be getting QUITE interesting.

    I will be very happy to see McConnell, Ryan, Stone, Bannon, Gingrich, Gowdy, Nunes, etc., indicted, convicted and sentenced.

    IT IS TIME.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Noyes View Post
    hmmmmm the middle of the day... on a week day... wonder where all the NORMAL (hard working [hint]) AMERICANS could be???????

    how about... AT WORK... Ever heard of it Liberal? ever do it? it's how we fund all your social services...

    wow look at all the Liberals commenting mid day???
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    Daniel, your day nurse is looking all over for you!

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    Oh, come on guys - as I'm sure SB would confirm if he wasn't so busy enjoying la douceur de la vie in Avignon - Trump is doing beautifully.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Noyes View Post
    Imagine if it was Trump who had credible intell about the Russians actively atempting to influence the election? would you want him to have revealed the exact same info Obama kept quiet?
    Trump HAS credible Intel about Russians actively attempting to influence the election. And yet he publicly questions the veracity of that information, and the competency of the agency's that generated it. But he believes Putin's "strong" assurances. How does that work for you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by isla View Post
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    OK, everyone. Settle down. Trump held a briefing this afternoon and straightened everything out. He re-wrote his own history and explained how everyone misunderstood him. Nothing to see here. He now states that he has full confidence in the intelligence agencies. Of course, he still didn't condemn Putin.... All hail the president*!
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    Blather in French. ¿Cuál es el punto de? Blather es blather.
    The best statement I've seen from this latest carnage came from a student who lived through it -

    "My generation will not allow this to continue!"

    Remember voting age is 18. Read it and weep reds.

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    Groups of people claim Trump is a liar who has committed crimes, both before and after his election.
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    Yeadon is right, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeadon View Post
    Groups of people claim Trump is a liar who has committed crimes, both before and after his election.
    Do they have torches and pikes? If not, so what.

    Speaking metaphorically of course....you know, about torches and pikes....

    Learning double speak from Trump University!

    What I meant to say was...uh, uh Lets see how the investigations work out...hows that?
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