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    Quote Originally Posted by S.V. Airlie View Post
    He's in awe of Putin. Bullies love bullies who are stronger than they are.
    My understanding is that Putin’s finances put him in the top 1% of billionaires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oznabrag View Post
    I don't know, Jeff.

    You, being Australian, wouldn't know about Edwin Edwards, a Louisiana politician who famously said "The only way I can lose this election is if I'm caught in bed with either a dead girl or a live boy".


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    The consensus of opinion is that Putin has something on Trump.

    He seems to be completely comfortable with being a predatory, amoral perpetrator of all sorts of mischief, and one thing we all know about blackmail/extortion is that the victim must be afraid of the consequences of exposure.

    Trump has been exposed as a fraud, a racist, a misogynist, he has no real fear of being exposed as a money-launderer because he is insulated by his money.

    Having chosen that life of crime, he has had plenty of time to prepare for criminal prosecution of financial crimes.

    Even if convicted, he would likely be able to go to country-club-prison or do house arrest due to 'medical issues' instead of general population at federal prison.

    Trump's financial crimes have been committed in a cold-hearted fashion, with malice aforethought, and as such he has inured himself to the possible consequences.


    If he flew into a rage and beat some girl's brains out with a table lamp, he would be terrified. If this were the case, Vlad would own his @$$ outright. That's how those spooks get ya.



    I have seen the images from earlier today, and the guy looks terrified. I mean, a couple of times it looked like he was gonna cry!


    So the question then becomes 'What the heck is he so afraid of?'

    'Found in bed with a dead girl or a live boy' would definitely fill the bill.
    Watch the tape as Trump and Putin walk into the press conference. Putin has a smirky grin on his face and Trump walks in like a whipped puppy. His face tells it all. Putin has him by the gronicles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Jones View Post
    He is afraid of Putin. That has to be obvious to anyone watching.
    He's afraid of Mueller, and has to insult that investigation, because he knows what he did. Putin also knows what trump did.

    Soon Mueller will tell us what Trump did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oznabrag View Post
    At least a dozen women have claimed that he sexually assaulted them.

    When he grabbed whoever by the p***y, he was committing sexual violence.

    Not only did Ivana claim he'd raped her, she said he beat her and dragged her around the room by her hair.
    Yup, plenty of past evidence of Trump violence against women.

    But I doubt it's on tape. I doubt there is even a tape.

    There's just a vain old fool acting out of his own naked self-interest, mammoth insecurities & greed - and Russian, Koreans and Chinese who know how to play fools like that all day long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Conway View Post
    Yup, plenty of past evidence of Trump violence against women.

    But I doubt it's on tape. I doubt there is even a tape.

    There's just a vain old fool acting out of his own naked self-interest, mammoth insecurities & greed - and Russian, Koreans and Chinese who know how to play fools like that all day long.
    I don't doubt that there's a tape of whatever happened in that hotel room.

    It's pretty clear that GRU/KGB has had him in their sights for a long, long time.

    They would not miss that opportunity to set him up.
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    To be blunt: Trump is Putin's bitch.

    Contrast his arse-kissery at the press conference with his enraged threats and name-calling at his endless campaign rallies.

    Not the same tough-guy schtick at all

    The obvious conclusion is that Putin has information that would utterly destroy Trump both as a president and as a person.

    It might be videos of extremely perverse sexual acts. It might be records of financial crimes (money laundering, undeclared debt, bribery). It might be evidence of direct collusion between Trump himself and Russian agents.

    It might be all of the above. There's a good chance Putin used their private session to review what he has in his Trump file. Whatever it is, it sobered the Donald up and scared him as well.

    After his recent exploits, I think we should deny him entry to the US until he releases his tax returns, submits to a mental exam and a VD test, and registers as a foreign agent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chip-skiff View Post
    To be blunt: Trump is Putin's bitch.
    . . . I think we should deny him entry to the US until he releases his tax returns, submits to a mental exam and a VD test, and registers as a foreign agent.
    That would be a start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Montgomery View Post
    Remember Ari Fleischer? Dubya's press secretary?
    "From now on, Americans are going to have to watch what they say." FU


    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Montgomery View Post
    Up until today he has been a Trump apologist.

    And then today he tweeted this:

    [I]"I continue to believe there was no collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia. But when Trump so easily and naively accepts Putin's line about not being involved, I can understand why Ds think Putin must have the goods on him."
    Now you can understand?

    Mark my words. Trump supporters will cite this event as the beginning of the end for their support of Trump, and yet they will go to their graves supporting Trump, and the Chimp too. The shame will be too great to face day after day, year after year, so they'll go back to wherever they crawled out from. Another fifty years, tops, the Confederate flags will be back, the tiki torches, Ayn Rand, everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Montgomery View Post
    Another long-time Trump apologist, Newt Gingrich, wrote on Twitter today: "President Trump must clarify his statements in Helsinki on our intelligence system and Putin. It is the most serious mistake of his presidency and must be corrected—-immediately."
    Et tu, Newtay?
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    Fleischer seems to be hedging his bets……………..

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    Quote Originally Posted by oznabrag View Post
    It's like they just vanished!

    If anybody can tell me why Trump is a good thing, I'm all ears.
    Where Are Our Trump Apologists?

    hmmmmm the middle of the day... on a week day... wonder where all the NORMAL (hard working [hint]) AMERICANS could be???????

    how about... AT WORK... Ever heard of it Liberal? ever do it? it's how we fund all your social services...


    wow look at all the Liberals commenting mid day???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Noyes View Post
    Where Are Our Trump Apologists?

    hmmmmm the middle of the day... on a week day... wonder where all the NORMAL (hard working [hint]) AMERICANS could be???????

    how about... AT WORK... Ever heard of it Liberal? ever do it? it's how we fund all your social services...


    wow look at all the Liberals commenting mid day???
    We thought it was a holiday to celebrate Trumps self immolation.

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    John McCain hasn't held back; https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.f97353c2dbf6

    left wing communist apologist!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Noyes View Post
    Where Are Our Trump Apologists?

    hmmmmm the middle of the day... on a week day... wonder where all the NORMAL (hard working [hint]) AMERICANS could be???????

    how about... AT WORK... Ever heard of it Liberal? ever do it? it's how we fund all your social services...


    wow look at all the Liberals commenting mid day???


    What do you mean we? Tough to find out you backed a traitor. Liberals may just save your sorry..a$$.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    Fleischer seems to be hedging his bets……………..
    Yet Kissinger says nyothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garret View Post
    Today's meeting made it completely obvious that Putin has some sort of hold over Trump & Trump is scared to death.
    The results of the previous trip of our russi.. er, republican congress critters over there made it pretty clear they are afraid too..

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulf View Post
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    What do you mean we? Tough to find out you backed a traitor. Liberals may just save your sorry..a$$.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oznabrag View Post
    Yet Kissinger says nyothing.
    Kissinger already has to be careful…………. some interpol warrants may yet be outstanding…………..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Durnik View Post
    The results of the previous trip of our russi.. er, republican congress critters over there made it pretty clear they are afraid too..
    Now THIS is INTERESTING.

    Can you please start us a thread with some hot inks to get us going?

    Who are these guys?

    Where are their districts?

    WTF?
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulf View Post
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    What do you mean we? Tough to find out you backed a traitor. Liberals may just save your sorry..a$$.
    Where Are Our Trump Apologists?


    "Hmmmm geeeee I wonder where all the Trump supporters are???? it's Monday at 4:08 PM... where could they all be? why aren't they all farting around on the forum??? what else is there to do in a day? nothin here"
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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    Kissinger already has to be careful…………. some interpol warrants may yet be outstanding…………..
    You remember Post-911?

    When Uncle Hank was named to head up the Investigation?

    And then he quit about a week later?





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    Quote Originally Posted by oznabrag View Post
    I don't doubt that there's a tape of whatever happened in that hotel room.

    It's pretty clear that GRU/KGB has had him in their sights for a long, long time.

    They would not miss that opportunity to set him up.
    Likely since the mid 80's.. there is no realistic way his every moment in the USSR wasn't recorded.


    Money can't be the hold.. he has properties in countries (Russia) where he can escape & live out his life, safe from LE in nations he po'd.

    Plus, there's the Rep congress critters who recently went to Russia.. and came back subdued..

    Congress is in on this too.. and not in a position of international power. Seriously, WTF!

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    Oh young Daniel is dancing about in the shadows still……………...

    Seems quite excited about an interview on Fox………………...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Durnik View Post
    Likely since the mid 80's.. there is no realistic way his every moment in the USSR wasn't recorded.


    Money can't be the hold.. he has properties in countries (Russia) where he can escape & live out his life, safe from LE in nations he po'd.

    Plus, there's the Rep congress critters who recently went to Russia
    .. and came back subdued..

    Congress is in on this too.. and not in a position of international power. Seriously, WTF!
    What, do I have to google it, read it, and have to drag your take on it out of you, too?

    Spit it out!



    Who are these guys, Bobby?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Noyes View Post
    Where Are Our Trump Apologists?


    "Hmmmm geeeee I wonder where all the Trump supporters are???? it's Monday at 11:20 AM... where could they all be? why aren't they all farting around on the forum??? what else is there to do in a day? nothin here"
    That's twice you've said that. Third time is a charm.

    meanwhile, have a read and see if you can contribute; https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...lippery-slope-
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    Quote Originally Posted by oznabrag View Post
    Now THIS is INTERESTING.

    Can you please start us a thread with some hot inks to get us going?

    Who are these guys?

    Where are their districts?

    WTF?


    starting with this NYT article.


    Mr. Nikonov described the American senators as “Trumpists” who have taken “firmly anti-Russian positions yet are open to dialogue.”


    Back in Washington this week, the senators were left to distance themselves from charges that they had allowed themselves to be used as props by a government hostile to American interests — particularly at a time set aside to commemorate American democracy.




    Comments by one of them, Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, set off howls from Democrats. Mr. Johnson, the chairman of the Senate Homeland Security Committee, returned to Washington questioning the value of punitive American sanctions targeting Russian financial interest and urging his fellow senators to reconsider how to best discourage Russian interference.


    “I’ve been pretty upfront that the election interference — as serious as that was, and unacceptable — is not the greatest threat to our democracy,” Mr. Johnson said in an interview with The Washington Examiner. “We’ve blown it way out of proportion.”





    of course, a google of Sen Ron Johnson returns enough evidence he is not playing with a full deck.. his cornbread ain't 'done in the middle' etc..

    But the tone was down playing Russian interference..


    and I like that first line -

    described the American senators as “Trumpists” who ...are open to dialogue.”

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    Putin and his puppet.

    Putin and puppet.jpg

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    Once again Trump came across as an idiot.

    However, any true critical message to Putin would not occur during a press conference. Now whether there was an actual warning, I doubt it. In any case, that press conference would not have been the forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Noyes View Post
    Where Are Our Trump Apologists?

    hmmmmm the middle of the day... on a week day... wonder where all the NORMAL (hard working [hint]) AMERICANS could be???????

    how about... AT WORK... Ever heard of it Liberal? ever do it? it's how we fund all your social services...


    wow look at all the Liberals commenting mid day???
    Some of us liberals worked hard all our lives and retired, allowing us to express our opinions any time we want.
    Oh, by the way, my Social Security check came last week. Thank you for working hard and paying your taxes in order to provide me with that.
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    There is consistency here.......remember, this was only a few weeks ago when during the Trump-Kim Summit, trump seemingly threw Japan and South Korea aside with announcements.....no warning or prior consultation.
    Trump loves to cosy up to dictators but what else is going on?
    This is beginning to look familiar......



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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Noyes View Post
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    "Hmmmm geeeee I wonder where all the Trump supporters are???? it's Monday at 4:08 PM... where could they all be? why aren't they all farting around on the forum??? what else is there to do in a day? nothin here"
    Ya know, you are right..Thank you for your Military service, and thanks for those taxes none of us liberals ever paid. Your support and strength over the past years has lifted us all out of gloom and doom. You are a HERO, thank you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianW View Post
    Once again Trump came across as an idiot.

    However, any true critical message to Putin would not occur during a press conference. Now whether there was an actual warning, I doubt it. In any case, that press conference would not have been the forum.
    Ya your right , that would occur in a closed door meeting where no one could verify the content or results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulf View Post
    Ya your right , that would occur in a closed door meeting where no one could verify the content or results.
    That would fall right in line with past exchanges...

    Not until September, when Mr. Obama pulled Mr. Putin aside at a Group of 20 meeting in Hanghzhou, China, was the Russian leader given a warning directly from the United States. Mr. Obama said he told him “to cut it out, there were going to be serious consequences if he did not.”
    There's lots of reporting on this exchange, all quoting Obama. But where's the proof? I haven't found a transcript or witness to the exchange. Maybe someone else will find it.

    It would be nice to have some record of Trump telling Putin to knock it off too.
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