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    Default Blackfly! The future of transportation, a flying car

    Oh yeah - you want one! It is all the buzz here in Palo Alto.

    https://www.opener.aero/

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    Default Re: Blackfly! The future of transportation

    What a kick. Much superior to the old Gyrodyne Rotocycle developed near us and that i got to demonstrate at age 12 in the safety of a suspension wire hung between two towers for test flying the prototypes.



    The Gyrodyne folk were claiming it would cost about like a Caddy and make the NYC commute fast and easy. Dad pointed out that it would just lead to three dimensional traffic jams filled with idiots.

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    Default Re: Blackfly! The future of transportation

    This is totally cool!

    In crowded zones it would probably have to fly under automated control.
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    Default Re: Blackfly! The future of transportation

    i thought this would be about the sail/oar boat.

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    Default Re: Blackfly! The future of transportation

    Quote Originally Posted by Ian McColgin View Post

    The Gyrodyne folk were claiming it would cost about like a Caddy and make the NYC commute fast and easy. Dad pointed out that it would just lead to three dimensional traffic jams filled with idiots.
    Eliminate the idiot. Blackfly drone, I imagine, is the endgoal for efficient transport. For better or worse, it solves that idiot problem.

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    Default Re: Blackfly! The future of transportation

    Very cool craft; horrible, horrible name. I can guarantee that whoever named it has never encountered blackflies. Might as well name it 'Ebola', or 'Tapeworm.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Wilson View Post
    Very cool craft; horrible, horrible name. I can guarantee that whoever named it has never encountered blackflies. Might as well name it 'Ebola', or 'Tapeworm.'

    Agree! 'Dragonfly' might do, since they are so aerially agile.

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    Spanish Fly so they can get the whole thing interested and started.

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    Default Re: Blackfly! The future of transportation

    I want one now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Wilson View Post
    Very cool craft; horrible, horrible name. I can guarantee that whoever named it has never encountered blackflies.
    Well, I'm pretty familiar with 'em and still named my camping sailboat Blackfly. The prototype (which has never actually done any camping, as far as I know) is now on a blackfly-infested lake a bit north of here.


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    I heard Google is considering on making landing and charging zones for their employees in Mountain View.
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    Blackfly looks like fun. I wonder if it has an actual glide ratio.

    Would be neat to see a wee bit more range for the thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoez View Post
    Would be neat to see a wee bit more range for the thing.
    This is, of course, the problem with every such effort to date. Compounded by the challenge of cold (requiring cabin heat and defrosted windows) for those of us who live in such climes. I've yet to see anyone seriously address either concern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoez View Post
    Blackfly looks like fun. I wonder if it has an actual glide ratio.

    Would be neat to see a wee bit more range for the thing.
    If you need more than 25 mile range you would fly a plane. This is not a plane. It is a personal commuting option for wealthy.
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    Default Re: Blackfly! The future of transportation

    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Hoppe View Post
    If you need more than 25 mile range you would fly a plane. This is not a plane. It is a personal commuting option for wealthy.
    More than 25 miles for safety, IMO - for anyone - even the "wealthy" who are looking for a personal commuting option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoez View Post
    More than 25 miles for safety, IMO - for anyone - even the "wealthy" who are looking for a personal commuting option.
    Most people will commute a maximum of 10 miles each way. Like Alameda/Berkeley to San Francisco or Palo Alto, Los Gatos to Mountain View, Seattle to Redmond, New Jersey to NYC

    Not with a starting price of over $100,000. That price point basically eliminates 80 percent of the population.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Hoppe View Post
    Not with a starting price of over $100,000. That price point basically eliminates 80 percent of the population.
    The interview they had said, "cost of an SUV" which says $35-50K to me. Did you see or hear somewhere where they mentioned " over $100K"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoez View Post
    The interview they had said, "cost of an SUV" which says $35-50K to me. Did you see or hear somewhere where they mentioned " over $100K"?
    It is all the buzz here in the Bay Area. The cost of a pimped out Tesla SUV is 120K, Mercedes is 140K.

    They are taking orders.
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    Default Re: Blackfly! The future of transportation

    I heard them say an expensive SUV. I don't expect to see any in the Wal-Mart parking lot anytime soon.

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    Default Re: Blackfly! The future of transportation

    I'm hoping for a kit or build version of this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by willmarsh3 View Post
    I'm hoping for a kit or build version of this.
    Imagine the forum for that one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Hoppe View Post
    Imagine the forum for that one.
    "Don't forget to add lead ballast..."

    "I think you can use 3M 5200..."

    "Epoxy is crap"

    "You can use any batteries you want."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Hoppe View Post
    Most people will commute a maximum of 10 miles each way.
    Really? That seems like a very short distance. It's not at all uncommon for people here to commute, hmm, twenty or thirty miles, at least. Heck, a granola suburb-to-downtown commute is almost ten miles, and that's not even getting into the bedroom communities. I would have expected Bay Area commutes to be much longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Orca View Post
    Really? That seems like a very short distance. It's not at all uncommon for people here to commute, hmm, twenty or thirty miles, at least. Heck, a granola suburb-to-downtown commute is almost ten miles, and that's not even getting into the bedroom communities. I would have expected Bay Area commutes to be much longer.
    The thing is thousands of people making over 1m a year can afford to live close to work here in the bay area. They already own numerous cars for their country homes in napa or Sonoma. They have their country homes in Lake Tahoe, Idaho and Wyoming which they use their private planes.

    The flying car solution is currently targeting these folks. Poorer folks use trains, ferries and corporate buses to commute the 10 miles as a bird flies taking them as much as 2 hours to get to work.
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    Is there a video of him parallel parking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Hoppe View Post
    The thing is thousands of people making over 1m a year can afford to live close to work here in the bay area.
    It's hard for me to imagine a place with enough commuters making that much money to constitute a market. I don't think we have any doctors who make that much; there might be the odd lawyer or CEO who does, but they would be vanishingly few. Certainly not enough to make this gizmo "the future of transportation".

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    Gotta be NOISY.

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    The website says it is less noisy than the average car going down the street.
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    I will soon be looking for investors.

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    Default Re: Blackfly! The future of transportation

    Back in the day, Kenny G (a local saxophone player) generates a lot of complaints when he would often fly his floatplane Cessna from his Lake Washington home to Lake Union for fish and chips at Ivars. Distance of about 4 miles.
    Jimmy Graham (football player) would commute about 10 miles from training camp to home. He flew a float plane Otter.
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