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    Default I screwed up.

    So drilling it out is the best option at this point?

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    "Get a bigger hammer."
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    "My generation will not allow this to continue!"

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    that's how i broke the punch, erm screwdriver
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    i knew i was on shaky ground to begin with
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    Freezing, heating?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    that's how i broke the punch, erm screwdriver
    Umm, have you tried banging on the other end?
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    cut it in half with a band saw. Glue it back together with 3M 5200
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    Use your teeth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JTA View Post
    cut it in half with a band saw. Glue it back together with 3M 5200
    brilliant
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    Izzat a log splitter? What’re we lookin’ at?

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    I 2nd heat/cool

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    Quote Originally Posted by StevenBauer View Post
    Izzat a log splitter? What’re we lookin’ at?
    rear wheel of a bush-hog

    that's a roll pin i was driving out
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    Proper roll pin punch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Adams View Post
    Proper roll pin punch.
    we're beyond that now, i gotta frikkin screwdriver blade wedged in there but good
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    Clamp visegrips to the screwdriver shaft. Hammer on the visegrips to pull the shaft out. Use a proper punch to complete the job.

    I have done the same pulling halfshafts on my old Subaru. Nowhere near as much room to work on the Subie. Is that a Philips screwdriver? Chances are, the point is buried inside the roll pin, expanding it so it won't move any further.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robm View Post
    Clamp visegrips to the screwdriver shaft. Hammer on the visegrips to pull the shaft out. Use a proper punch to complete the job.
    i like it
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    Not having fire , I would saw the roll pin close, and have a go at getting something to start moving again from that side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robm View Post
    Clamp visegrips to the screwdriver shaft. Hammer on the visegrips to pull the shaft out. Use a proper punch to complete the job.

    I have done the same pulling halfshafts on my old Subaru. Nowhere near as much room to work on the Subie. Is that a Philips screwdriver? Chances are, the point is buried inside the roll pin, expanding it so it won't move any further.
    Thats good , grandpas vice and a crowbar might do too.

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    It works. Use old visegrips. I like John's idea of using a loose vice and crowbar, but suspect impact will be necessary to get you out of this situation, just as it got you into it.

    Another possibility: Use a proper punch inside the roll pin, to pop the screwdriver shaft out. But if this gets jammed and breaks, as the screwdriver did, it will be one solid mass of hardened steel to drill out, so try other extraction methods first.
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    More lube, some gentle warm rubs and lots more quiet whispers of encouragement.

    BTW - Is that for the bathroom?
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    Quote Originally Posted by robm View Post
    Clamp visegrips to the screwdriver shaft. Hammer on the visegrips to pull the shaft out. Use a proper punch to complete the job.

    I have done the same pulling halfshafts on my old Subaru. Nowhere near as much room to work on the Subie. Is that a Philips screwdriver? Chances are, the point is buried inside the roll pin, expanding it so it won't move any further.
    You might try getting the biggest pipe wrench on the place and seeing if you can turn the screw driver.

    If you can get 'on' the screwdriver and put a generous, steady pressure on the end of that wrench while simultaneously giving the exposed end of the roll pin a sharp rap with a hammer, it may just pop out.

    Otherwise, you can wait until Jake shows up and tells you this whole mess serves you right!

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    Why take it apart?
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    My advice would be to gain a purchase on the screwdriver, attach a back action hammer and hammer/pull it out.
    Purchase could be gained by welding a piece of chain to it, nice and inelastic
    Good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Williamson View Post
    Why take it apart?
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    the fork is bent* and i can't get a purchase on it to bend it back without turning it upside down
    in hindsight i should have just flipped the deck over


    *kat backed it into a tree
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    How about a car jack, some kevlar/nylon rope and vice grips?
    tie two bowlines around the punch ends and the vice grips and attach the vice grip to the the jack and use as a lever with a few good turns of handle.
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    The screwdriver shaft is too slippery. Although, the 5200 might come in handy here, if you slopped it on a rolling hitch made with strong (really strong) twine around the shaft. But again, I think impact will be needed, a long slow pull won't cut it. And the string and 5200 probably won't stay on, either.

    Welding on a chain or a nut to attach a slide hammer is a good bet. If you have a welder. I don't, so I use vicegrips.

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    Bent?
    I thought they were built crooked.
    If you straighten it,it won't cut any better.
    If you leave it, you can mock her mercilessly about it and post pictures on the intertubes.
    I dare you

    BTW I agree with Robm about beating on a TIGHTLY clamped ViseGrip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Williamson View Post
    If you leave it, you can mock her mercilessly about it and post pictures on the intertubes.
    I dare you
    let me go get some pictures of the ruts it leaves when you turn to the left. . .
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    I'm not getting something here. Roll pins are hollow (and usually pretty hard). Why not use a punch down the center of the pin to drive the stuck tool back out, followed by the proper punch to remove the pin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ross M View Post
    I'm not getting something here. Roll pins are hollow (and usually pretty hard). Why not use a punch down the center of the pin to drive the stuck tool back out, followed by the proper punch to remove the pin?
    good idea
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    I thought of that, but that punch will be very thin. If it breaks, the problem is now compounded. Slide hammer on the screwdriver is the safer bet.

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    You need more tools. A full set of punches, various new vice grips, an oxyacetylene torch set, a slide hammer, and a hydraulic press at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve McMahon View Post
    You need more tools. A full set of punches, various new vice grips, an oxyacetylene torch set, a slide hammer, and a hydraulic press at least.
    Two - small & large
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    If you had a proper drift punch for the roll pin why wouldn't it remove in the opposite direction?
    You might have to make something like this for that size roll pin. Wish I was there, it would be short work
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    *kat backed it into a tree
    That fork has been bent for 9 years. It worked just fine until you BROKE the fork last week. We’ve had a replacement fork in the garage since the initial bend 9 years ago. This mess is ALL on you dear.
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