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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoeyawl View Post
    If you had a proper drift punch for the roll pin why wouldn't it remove in the opposite direction?
    I thought because the hammered in screwdriver was wedging it in place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katherine View Post
    That fork has been bent for 9 years. It worked just fine until you BROKE the fork last week. We’ve had a replacement fork in the garage since the initial bend 9 years ago. This mess is ALL on you dear.

    Dont you you just love when the whole story comes out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katherine View Post
    That fork has been bent for 9 years. It worked just fine until you BROKE the fork last week. We’ve had a replacement fork in the garage since the initial bend 9 years ago. This mess is ALL on you dear.
    **** me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve McMahon View Post
    You need more tools. A full set of punches, various new vice grips, an oxyacetylene torch set, a slide hammer, and a hydraulic press at least.
    best answer yet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    **** me
    that’s right brother, carry that load.

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    Weld nut to screwdriver. Screw bolt into nut to push against shaft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ross M View Post
    I'm not getting something here. Roll pins are hollow (and usually pretty hard). Why not use a punch down the center of the pin to drive the stuck tool back out, followed by the proper punch to remove the pin?
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    good idea
    I bet that a long #1 Phillips screwdriver would do the trick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StevenBauer View Post
    I thought because the hammered in screwdriver was wedging it in place.
    It went in, it will go back out...
    I hate roll pins.
    (or "spring pins" whatever, it is a quick and dirty why of sidestepping a proper job)

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    If you can measure it, (i.d., o.d., length) I'll make you a punch and put it in the mail.
    (If you have an oxy/acetylene torch you could heat the screwdriver and bend it 90° or into an eye, and pull it out. that will get you back to square one.)

    Wait! you have a new fork? Just cut those bits that are sticking out off with a small angle grinder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul pless View Post
    **** me

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    Buy a new mower. Go do the bathroom.

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    https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/....php?p=1745848

    a very useful homemade tool It would not be difficult to put one together.
    Cheers Len

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    One vice grip will probably slide, 2 or 3 might not. Perhaps you can weld something on the end to butt the vice grip up against.

    How about heat the screwdriver shaft and bend a 90 in it. Either use that with a persuader to turn it or to butt the grips up against? With the bend in it you could attach one end of a short chain to the ell and a sledge hammer to the other end and have the equivalent of a slide hammer. With Kat pushing down on the persuader on the pipe wrench while you swing the sledge it should pop right out.

    Before I tried anything else though I would try just the pipe wrench, with a persuader if necessary. That should do it.

    Is it a slotted or a Phillips? Phillips, right? Shame on you Paul.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katherine View Post
    That fork has been bent for 9 years. It worked just fine until you BROKE the fork last week. We’ve had a replacement fork in the garage since the initial bend 9 years ago. This mess is ALL on you dear.
    Ouch! I saw this coming the minute you made that "kat backed it into a tree" comment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    the fork is bent and i can't get a purchase on it to bend it back without turning it upside down
    in hindsight i should have just flipped the deck over
    Could you unbolt the frame from the mower, straighten it then refit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    rear wheel of a bush-hog
    Damn, they grow em tough in Hell. How long does a bush hog take in the smoker?
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    Slide hammer vice grip. Pipe wrench. Heat and bend screwdriver. Weld something to screwdriver to drive it out. Probably in that order.
    Tom

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    This is why you married an engineer. Look into her eyes, tell her you love her and that only she can save the situation. Then go for a nice walk.

    A long walk.

    Perhaps a Forrest Gump length walk...

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    So... Roll Pin?

    Peace,
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    I have used the visegrips technique to retrieve a chisel or gouge that I buried in a deep chunk of something hard.

    To increase the friction and not damage the broken screwdriver, add a wrap of emery cloth to the shank before clamping on the VGs.

    On a different scale but virtually the same technique, I have clamped a chunk of two-by to a steel fence post and then used a BFH or a tire-changing jack to get the post out of the ground without digging it out.
    I don't care to know what the tough do when the going gets tough.

    I am interested in what the enlightened do.

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    This is the kind of thing that was a pain in the ass when I didn't have a welder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leikec View Post
    This is why you married an engineer. Look into her eyes, tell her you love her and that only she can save the situation. Then go for a nice walk.
    He didn't tell me about this, even though I was home. I had to read about the incident on the forum.
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    Try a poultice to draw it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katherine View Post
    That fork has been bent for 9 years. It worked just fine until you BROKE the fork last week. We’ve had a replacement fork in the garage since the initial bend 9 years ago. This mess is ALL on you dear.
    Are you somehow related to my wife?
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    Can you tap threads into the end of that pin, screw in a slide hammer, and bang it out? If you basically make the slide hammer out of a length of rod, then you could go with a really heavy weight on the slide. Maybe mount the thing 90 degrees from current orientation on something rigid and a bit high to let it work on the drop. Maybe you have an old weightlifting set lying about so you could stack up some serious weight for a four foot drop. I'm sure something would break then.

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    . . . G'luck

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    Is this what is called a 'tool pile-on'?
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    The screwdriver shank is probably too hard to tap. You could anneal it with a torch, tap it, then use a coupling nut and some all thread if you want to try Ian's idea.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    So drilling it out is the best option at this point?

    Attachment 19223
    The new part you have includes not just the wheel, but the brackets & the shaft that has the screwdriver stuck in it?

    If so - I'd absolutely go with the "cut the screwdriver off with an angle grinder" idea mentioned above. After cutting, grind each side of the shaft a bit to ensure it'll fit through the housing.

    It's not like the rear wheel pivot on a brushog is a precision component...
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    He could take a narrower screwdriver and gently tap it out from the other side with a mallet, not a framing hammer.
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    Framing hammer???

    shiyette! I was wailing on it with a sledge hammer last night
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    Did you try hitting the screwdriver REALLY hard?

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    Quote Originally Posted by amish rob View Post
    Did you try hitting the screwdriver REALLY hard?

    Peace,
    Robert
    See post #66
    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    I didn’t want to use the new fork. But screw it, I’m just gonna cut this one off with the angle grinder.
    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    How big a sledge? Full sized?

    Roll Pin!

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    Helpy Helperton

    P.S. Angle grinder for the win, Buddy.

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