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    Default Re: Trump told to behave by EU ahead of NATO talks

    Quote Originally Posted by skaraborgcraft View Post
    Well looks like he managed to swing a payrise for NATO. Does that still make him Putins bitch?
    Nope. Fake news.
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    Except Trump claimed (in your BBC link) that Germany gets 60 - 70% of their ENERGY from Russia. But as your link points out..

    But that does not mean that 60% of Germany's energy comes from Russia - Germany's energy mix for power production is about 40% coal, more than 30% renewables, less than 20% gas and 10% nuclear, according to Marex Spectron.
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    Quote Originally Posted by isla View Post
    Except Trump claimed (in your BBC link) that Germany gets 60 - 70% of their ENERGY from Russia. But as your link points out..

    But that does not mean that 60% of Germany's energy comes from Russia - Germany's energy mix for power production is about 40% coal, more than 30% renewables, less than 20% gas and 10% nuclear, according to Marex Spectron.
    OK so he forgot to put 'GAS' before 'ENERGY'.

    Yes, I know and appreciate that, unless he states everything exactly and precisely he will be castigated as making up facts, lying etc.

    But as I stated 'Perhaps'in regard to"Trump makes up "facts" as he goes".


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    RP, Trump just spouts what he thinks is true. Most in his position would do some research and not take FOXNEWS as his resource. FOXNEWS can't do anything but, lie, ergo, you have Trump as a consequence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.V. Airlie View Post
    RP, Trump just spouts what he thinks is true. Most in his position would do some research and not take FOXNEWS as his resource. FOXNEWS can't do anything but, lie, ergo, you have Trump as a consequence.
    So you are saying that he does not deliberately lie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WX View Post
    How German News Covered Trump's NATO Visit



    Is this a clip of something that actually broadcast by German news media or a spoof compiled by the Late Show and/or others?

    So difficult to tell if Fake News these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rum_Pirate View Post
    OK so he forgot to put 'GAS' before 'ENERGY'.

    Yes, I know and appreciate that, unless he states everything exactly and precisely he will be castigated as making up facts, lying etc.

    But as I stated 'Perhaps'in regard to"Trump makes up "facts" as he goes".


    We are just use to having president's that generally take some time to actually learn about an issue, and put some thought into their public speaking.He made a lot of errors in his speeches lately, a whopper was the US funding 70% of Europe's defense, there is a whole list of "mistakes" about NATO over the last couple of weeks.

    https://www.npr.org/2018/07/11/62813...-nato-spending

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rum_Pirate View Post
    So you are saying that he does not deliberately lie.
    What do you think?
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    Trump has been a con man his entire adult life. He has always been about bluff and bluster. It wouldn’t surprise me if, at this point, fact and his own fiction are indistinguishable to him.

    Having said that, Trump’s character was crystal clear from the beginning. And yet enough people voted for him that he won the GOP nomination and then the presidency. Like BrianW posted the other day... he was sick of politicians. So this is what we all got. This is a sick nation right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by isla View Post
    What do you think?
    A great number of things.
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    Donald reminds me of Nikita, banging the lectern with his shoe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Montgomery View Post
    Trump has been a con man his entire adult life. He has always been about bluff and bluster. It wouldn’t surprise me if, at this point, fact and his own fiction are indistinguishable to him.

    Having said that, Trump’s character was crystal clear from the beginning. And yet enough people voted for him that he won the GOP nomination and then the presidency. Like BrianW posted the other day... he was sick of politicians. So this is what we all got. This is a sick nation right now.
    There is a LOT of research about lying.

    They say that the more you lie, the less you experience the anxiety of lying.

    As you become inured to the negative psychological effects of lying, your ability to pass a polygraph becomes absolute.

    You know you're lying, but your body presents it as truth.

    Donald SFB Trump passed that point 30 years ago.

    I can not WAIT until he 'hangs by the neck until dead' pursuant to a Supreme Court decree.

    His two 'appointees' will be forced, under penalty of swinging with him, to recuse themselves from deliberation.

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    The most flag waven, Bible thumpin, constitution quotin party, the republications are in fact traitors, all linked up with the Ruskies!

    Who'd a thunkit!
    They are trying to sink the FBI to save the traitors a$$.
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    Default Re: Trump told to behave by EU ahead of NATO talks

    Quote Originally Posted by Rum_Pirate View Post
    Is this a clip of something that actually broadcast by German news media or a spoof compiled by the Late Show and/or others?

    So difficult to tell if Fake News these days.
    I don’t know, I came across it on Facebook and thought it funny enough to post here. Okay I looked it up on YouTube and it’s actually Austrian and she’s talking about something quite different...so yes it’s fake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulf View Post
    The most flag waven, Bible thumpin, constitution quotin party, the republications are in fact traitors, all linked up with the Ruskies!

    Who'd a thunkit!
    They are trying to sink the FBI to save the traitors a$$.
    And they are all good with it, it's all about abortion with the hardcore, anything is fine to stop it.

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    Isn't Trump "controlled" by Russia as a result of the Russian cash underpinning his biz interests?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Smith porter maine View Post
    And they are all good with it, it's all about abortion with the hardcore, anything is fine to stop it.
    Check out Rachel Maddow here call a spade a G.D. SHOVEL!

    http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulf View Post
    Check out Rachel Maddow here call a spade a G.D. SHOVEL!

    http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show
    yup. Hell of a background on the guy the GOP politicians are trying to discredit. In order to undermine the investigation they will crap on the institutions that protect America. Trumpism is rotting the GOP.

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