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    Apparently the next rescue attempt is underway and reporters believe that they'll try to extract all five this time. Just amazing!!

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    This so much reminds me of the rescue of the 33 Chilean miners whose rescue I saw on live TV. I hope this has a happy ending too.
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    Some of you might be interested in this statement posted on the Cave Divers Association of Australia website. It's a little out of date but, I think, provides a good summary of what's involved for the rescuers. I should add that this includes all rescuers, those bringing out the boys and all those laying stage tanks and providing other support:

    Foreword

    Many media outlets have contacted the Cave Divers Association of Australia seeking commentary about the rescue operation that is currently underway. Whilst some of the Australian contingent deployed by the Australian Federal Government are CDAA members, we must reiterate that the CDAA is not directly involved in the rescue operation. Out of respect for the individuals involved, the CDAA is also not in a position to divulge any personal information, contact details, nor make comment about persons involved in the rescue operation. Inquiries for such information will not be responded to. Until such time that the rescue operation has concluded, the CDAA will continue to refrain from providing commentary in direct response to individual media requests, however, in an effort to raise awareness and insight into the conditions the rescuers currently face, the CDAA provides the following statement;

    STATEMENT BY: THE CAVE DIVERS ASSOCIATION OF AUSTRALIA

    The Cave Divers Association of Australia were overjoyed to learn yesterday evening that 4 of the boys trapped in Tham Luang Cave have been successfully evacuated. In response to widespread public interest, the CDAA has issued this statement in an effort to raise awareness and provide an accurate portrayal of the conditions and challenges currently faced by the rescue team in their effort to bring the boys to safety. Members of the CDAA National Committee have had some contact with the rescue team and understand that, if conditions allow, further attempts will be made over the coming days to extricate the remainder of those trapped. The onset in the last 24 hours of heavy rains have caused grave concern that conditions inside the chamber where the boys are trapped would deteriorate rapidly. The extraction team that has been assembled to undertake the rescue includes some of the best, most accomplished cave divers from around the world. We have been informed that the cohesion amongst the divers involved has been excellent. All members of this team are considered cave diving and dry caving experts of the highest calibre, have previous experience in search and rescue operations, and have been selected specifically by those coordinating the rescue operation as they all possess specialised skills and experience deemed critical to the operation. Conditions faced by the divers and those providing in-water support are by all accounts some of the most challenging conditions they have ever faced. Whilst cave diving skills and training are considered an integral component to successfully carry out the rescue attempt and have therefore been the focus of much media attention, it must be noted that the challenges divers must overcome inside Tham Luang Cave are worlds apart from those typically faced by recreational cave divers.

    The difficulties that the rescue teams must overcome are particularly hard to comprehend for those who are totally unfamiliar with the cave environment. To reach the chamber where the boys are trapped the divers must first make headway against a torrent of flowing water and mud. The sediment in the water, churned up by this flow, means that visibility is virtually zero. Subsequently, divers must navigate the contours and restrictions inside the undulating cave by feel alone. The distance from ‘base camp’ to the chamber where the boys are trapped is in excess of two kilometres and takes divers several hours to reach. Rescuers must negotiate numerous sumps (underwater sections), as well as a number of boulder-strewn passages of dry-cave over which the divers must haul their heavy life-support equipment. This terrain has the possibility of changing with the increased water level and well as the possibility of flood pulses. Even with a large support network, each of the rescue team divers will be required to undertake the return journey multiple times to successfully bring each of the trapped children to safety. There is no doubt that this is an endeavour that will bring them close to the limits of human capability. Having extricated 4 children thus far is a testament to the amazing effort, determination and teamwork of the rescue divers. The resilience, mental fortitude and courage of the boys who, having survived in the cave for two weeks, and who have now made this journey with the rescue team with no previous diving experience or training, is nothing short of incredible. The CDAA could not be prouder of the efforts of all those involved. With 8 young boys and their coach still trapped inside the cave, we will continue to wait in hopeful anticipation, that they, too, can soon be reunited with their families and loved ones, and that all involved in the rescue operation emerge unscathed.

    On behalf of the Cave Divers Association of Australia

    Pete Wolf, National Director


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    Thanks Rick. Yes, amazing and genuinely heroic.


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    Calling Blobbys...

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    Quote Originally Posted by purri View Post
    Calling Blobbys...

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    Huh?

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    Indeed, a worthy use of that overused label, Heroes.
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    Nine
    "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome and charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime" Mark Twain... so... Carpe the living sh!t out of the Diem

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    Ten
    "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome and charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime" Mark Twain... so... Carpe the living sh!t out of the Diem

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    Still praying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concordia...41 View Post
    Still praying.
    Or just hoping, hoping..........

    Two lads and the coach to come I believe. Looking back to the fearful prognostications, this operation already seems stupendous.
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    They are reporting 11 now... and saying that some have been sedated... which fits with that photo of them in a bag. Time will tell.
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    Just one boy and the coach left in the cave now. So incredible.

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    They have already done a whole lot better than anybody could have imagined...
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    First reports, as yet unconfirmed, that they have all 12 and the coach out
    "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome and charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime" Mark Twain... so... Carpe the living sh!t out of the Diem

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    So only the rescuers to go. Bl..dy amazing. I really didn't think they'd get them all out.

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    Brilliant. That one diver's death was not in vain.

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    BRAVO SEALS AND RESCUE TEAM! WELL DONE!

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    you come into harbors seen for the first time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    So only the rescuers to go. Bl..dy amazing. I really didn't think they'd get them all out.
    12:57 Waiting for four rescue divers to emerge

    The final part of the operation will be the emergence of four rescue divers, including one doctor, who remained in the chamber with the boys after they were found.
    "Waiting to pick up four divers," the Thai Navy said on Facebook.



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    Well done!!
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    wonderful news .

    I am literally full of wonder at the dedication and expertise and all best wishes to every one involved. I wish that the family and friends and teammates of Saman Gunan in the desperation and misery of losing someone close, feel some consolation in his ultimate sacrífice.

    Now we can get back to the real stuff like France versus Belgium , Teresa May's mess, Ronaldo's 200 million (What!) transfer fee and 30 million a year salary.

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    There are now a much bigger pool of cave divers experienced in extreme conditions, disciplined procedures and complex planning. A good very thing.

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    Fantastic! Apparently some Thai navy and a Thai doctor who stayed with the boys right through, are yet to emerge. I guess they leave a big gap in case of issues with the rescue team and maybe time for tanks to be replenished? Anyway, heroes all - no doubt about that! and let's hope all emerge safely now. I don't think anyone'll be going back in to tidy up until the dry season kicks in .....

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    Well done!

    From Facebook - a video of how some of it was done:

    https://www.facebook.com/ko.aung.184...3NTU3OTAxMzY4/
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy View Post
    wonderful news .

    I am literally full of wonder at the dedication and expertise and all best wishes to every one involved. I wish that the family and friends and teammates of Saman Gunan in the desperation and misery of losing someone close, feel some consolation in his ultimate sacrífice.
    ^^^^
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    All out now.

    Well done, brave work. RIP the SEAL who died.
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    Quote Originally Posted by willmarsh3 View Post
    Well done!

    From Facebook - a video of how some of it was done:

    https://www.facebook.com/ko.aung.184...3NTU3OTAxMzY4/
    Heart pounding footage. Amazing stuff. And terrifying. Thankfully, the fish provided well timed comic relief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bigfella View Post
    They are reporting 11 now... and saying that some have been sedated... which fits with that photo of them in a bag. Time will tell.
    All the news sources I've seen, BBC, CNN, The Guardian, Reuters, etc, reported that the boys swam tethered to a lead diver. I'm pretty sure the Facebook footage of the divers with a rescue bag is not from the Thai cave incident.
    Last edited by Mike V.; 07-10-2018 at 11:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bigfella View Post
    They are reporting 11 now... and saying that some have been sedated... which fits with that photo of them in a bag. Time will tell.
    Not sedated
    12:39 Boys were given medication for journey out of the cave

    The Thai prime minister earlier confirmed reports that the boys had been given medication to prevent them panicking as they were brought out.
    Prayut Chan-ocha said that they were not sedated, as some reports suggested, but given anti-anxiety medication similar to that taken by him and other soldiers.
    “When we take this, we can be more focused and increase the chance of sharp shooting,” he said.



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    Excellent result and an amazing job by the rescue guys. RIP the diver who never made it, I hope he gets a posthumous award of some kind.
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    I'm not sure whether anyone has mentioned this yet, but the coach, Ekapol Chanthawong, lived in a Buddhist monastery for ten years before he started coaching soccer. The kids were mostly meditating while waiting to be rescued. And he was the weakest of the lot, because he was giving the kids his share of the food. I can hardly imagine a better guy to be trapped in a cave with.

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    The multi-national and local teaming to develop every possible rescue plan and work cooperatively to a solution has been both impressive, instructive, and a ray of hope in the world. But without Ekapol's spiritual leadership in the cave, nothing would be possible. A sort of Buddhist Shackleton, a teacher/leader who made the team of boys one.

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    I'm quite sure that FB video is of a different rescue under much better conditions of visibility and current. The water was muddy and rushing in other shots of the Thai cavern.

    I've done some cave diving in crystal clear Florida limestone caverns in moderate current and it's quite challenging even for an experienced diver. I've also done other diving in zero visibility. I held my hand on the mask and couldn't see it - there was no difference eyes open or closed. Those people were diving in zero visibility in a strong current. To teach those kids, who can't even swim, to dive in those conditions without panicking is truly heroic.
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