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    I drove down to Annapolis today and picked up a heavy 4'x8' pallet at Chesapeake Light Craft. The parts, almost all precut to size, for a balance lug version of Autumn Leaves. Here's how far I've gotten on day one:

    This is a lot of wood. Ply on the bottom, crated-up bundles of spar, stringer and other stock on top. In the car, many gallons of epoxy.

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    Removed from the pallet and spread out in the garage/workshop. Lots of pieces to assemble, but many, many hours of work already done. Much of it due to the wonders of computers and CNC machines.

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    Here's the profile of the finished boat, drawn up by John Harris as a variation of the canoe-yawl rigged original version of Autumn Leaves. My kit is the first to this variation. The first with the original rig is being shipped to Colorado. Another boat is being built directly from the plans and is almost completed.

    It's not everyone's cup of tea, I know. Despite the traditional look shown here, it's a Bolger-inspired sharpie hull with plumb sides, square sections. But it's also a boat that answers my current desires: a boat that's small enough to row but big enough to offer a dry and comfortable cabin. Also, a boat that's at home in the shallowest of water. Given this, and the double-ended boxy shape of the thing, mine will be called Terrapin.

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    I was hoping someone around here would build one.
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    I’ve studied this plan on the CLC site many times and very much like what I see -
    and dream up - with this boat. I’m looking forward to watching this build develop Thanks fobr /> sharing the build.

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    Sorry my last line there came out so crazy. I don’t know how that happened this is a total thumbs up from me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodeye60 View Post
    Sorry my last line there came out so crazy. I don’t know how that happened this is a total thumbs up from me!
    There is an 'Edit Post' option at the bottom of each of your posts if you ever want to correct any errors in a previous post
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    No problem, Woodeye. I use the edit feature all the time. I'm itching to get started on the boat, but we've got a family week at the beach coming up, and it turns out I picked up the materials before the final instructions and plans for my version are complete. But in a week and a day or two, I should be able to start assembling. In the meantime, here's my plan for the color scheme. (Colors here shown on the standard version, mine will have an extended cabin trunk and two portlights each side.)

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    Neat project! CNC-cut, ready-to-assemble boats really appeal to my software engineer brain somehow, even though my first love is for traditional plank-on-frame craft. I'm looking forward to seeing this one come together.

    As the the "thumbs down" icon that shows up sometimes - I'm pretty sure that's a bug in the editor. It seems to happens when a word ends in "er" or maybe other cases - I haven't been able to pin it down. I've run into it as well. No solution I've found except to change the word. Maybe something Scot can fix.

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    Congratulations the anticipation must be keen! You couldn't have picked a more engaged and interested designer than you have in John Harris, and it is a great leg up having all that cutting done. As for the design, I think it's a super intriguing piece of work. Please keep sharing!

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    You think that boat is green? You should see the tone of my jealous rage.

    This boat is a cool set of compromises for the right places.

    Itís not the right boat for me, for here, for now, but itís still a neat concept and design.

    Enjoy!

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    Excellent, Wox!

    I like the look of this boat. Looking forward to seeing you bring it together.

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    The design looks fun. With all those pre cut pieces there will be so much less noise and dust, that has to be a good thing.

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    Back from a family vacation and getting things moving.

    When I was a kid cereal boxes had perforated punch-out parts on the back to make things. Locomotives, airplanes, animals. It's where I learned to "Put Tab A into slot B." This project reminds me of that.

    On the sawhorses, bulkhead 2. The bulkhead was CNC cut, of course. My only job is to glue down some pre-cut stock and trim it to fit.l The edges will need bevels too, of course. Against the wall in back, bulkheads 3 and 4 wait their turn on the sawhorses. On the floor, the inside face of one of the two centerboard cases is glassed and curing.

    Is this cheating at boat building -- only doing half the job? I dunno and don't care much. I'm having fun and look forward to a launch date that will likely arrive before the onset of senility. One thing surprised me -- CLC provides an HIN with this kit. I can register it as a purchased boat, as opposed to a home-built boat. So perhaps I'm not building it at all, just sticking together a few parts picked up from the real builder, Chesapeake Light Craft.

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    Great!! I will watch with pleasure.

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    I’m looking at those curves, very nice curves. Them I’m looking at the the hull shape. Then the curves. The hull. Then I get it! Those curves are the interior of the boat.

    Actually, I really like this design and will follow along with interest.

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    ^^^ That took me a minute as well. I thought at first that Wox was using the scrap instead of the work piece

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    Quote Originally Posted by cstevens View Post
    ^^^ That took me a minute as well. I thought at first that Wox was using the scrap instead of the work piece
    I could do something like that. Those two pieces against the wall to the right of the corner are scrap cutouts. Hmmm. Frames for a tender? At any rate, this boat probably has more curves inside than out.
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    Good box boat designs mete out beautiful curves like good poets use rhymes: the skilled practitioner picks the right spots and makes them count!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woxbox View Post
    I could do something like that. Those two pieces against the wall to the right of the corner are scrap cutouts. Hmmm. Frames for a tender? At any rate, this boat probably has more curves inside than out.
    Now THAT would be some clever CNC engineering. Lay out the parts for a tender in the scraps from the big boat.... I like it!

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    Full-size model building it seems. I am watching with great enthusiasm. I'm not hung up on the traditional ways of boat building. I do greatly respect those that have the talent and patience to lovingly handmake almost every single piece on a boat be it an 8-foot dink or 80-foot ocean voyager.

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    ooooo I'm going to like this thread!
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    Very, very cool. I think the boat looks like a total joy to own and sail. I could envision owning something similar someday. I like the internal lead ballast as opposed to water ballast. There is not much to dislike about the boat. Good choice.

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    Cool project Dave. I'm looking forward to following along.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woxbox View Post

    Is this cheating at boat building -- only doing half the job?
    NO, it's not cheating. You're using the tools and technology that are currently available to build your boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by callsign222 View Post
    NO, it's not cheating. You're using the tools and technology that are currently available to build your boat.
    Didn’t they used to ship broken down boats from Norway to Scotland, for assembly in Scotland? So nothing new here, a continuation of great traditions.
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    Quick update. The bulkheads are trimmed out with stringers etc., and the bilge board trunks are ready to be assembled. Testing the fit of things here. I've gotta note that the quality of the materials supplied is superb. Haven't found a questionable piece of ply or lumber yet. There's still some more prepping of the pieces to go, but once they're ready the boat will take shape very quickly.

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    : )
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    Quote Originally Posted by George Ray View Post
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    i like the idea and the design. saves buying a lot of machinery it seems. what are you using on your floor? is that house wrap?

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    Yes, house wrap. Non stick, and stiffer and less slippery than drop cloth plastic. I have been using my bandsaw for several steps, but you could do the whole project with hand tools.
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    I've used leftover Tyvek on my garage floor many times. It's tough and cleans easily.

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    This certainly looks like fun. Harris is such a clever designer. A kit like this will bring the satisfaction of building something without the ordeal of doing it all. I predict that the final product will be a wonderful pocket cruiser.

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    I'll chime in with a thumbs-up, also, Dave! I found building from a well-engineered kit extremely pleasurable and rewarding, with enough head-scratching and "real" boat-building problem solving to make me feel pretty accomplished by the time I'd finished mine out. (I've now completed a 12' traditional copper-riveted lapstrake build, so have some comparative experience. Different horses, yes, but they're both beautiful wooden boats.) And, Autumn Leaves is a very cool design! Looking forward to seeing yours come together.

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    Harris is such a clever designer.
    He certainly is, Mike.

    Today I dry assembled and then glued up the core of the boat. This boat gets built inside-out. The starting point of assembly is to put together this box. It's about 4 1/2 foot square. No strongback, no jig needed. Once this is together, the sides get wrapped around it and the remaining bulkheads are fit. You can see here how the tabs on the bilgeboard cases fit the slots in the bulkhead. Hard to go wrong.

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    That's pretty cleaver way to do it.
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