Results 1 to 6 of 6

Thread: Do You Think Donald Trump is a Post-Modern?

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    24,250

    Default Do You Think Donald Trump is a Post-Modern?

    Rattling the teacups.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Feb 2001
    Location
    Seattle, WA USA
    Posts
    10,099

    Default Do You Think Donald Trump is a Post-Modern?

    I've said the the RWWs (Right-wing Whackadoodles) are more post-modernist than the supposedly post-modernist, liberal elite.

    To quote Wikipedia...

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post...eristic_claims

    Many postmodern claims are a deliberate repudiation of certain 18th-century Enlightenment values. Such a postmodernist believes that there is no objective natural reality, and that logic and reason are mere conceptual constructs that are not universally valid. Two other characteristic postmodern practices are a denial that human nature exists, and a (sometimes moderate) skepticism toward claims that science and technology will change society for the better. Postmodernists also believe there are no objective moral values. Thus, postmodern philosophy suggests equality for all things. One's concept of good and another's concept of evil are to be equally correct, since good and evil are subjective. Since both good and evil are equally correct, a postmodernist then tolerates both concepts, even if he or she disagrees with them subjectively.[9][10] Postmodern writings often focus on deconstructing the role that power and ideology play in shaping discourse and belief. Postmodern philosophy shares ontological similarities with classical skeptical and relativistic belief systems, and shares political similarities with modern identity politics.[1]

    It is amusing, or sad, to note that the very people who, if asked, would vehemently deny the precepts of post-modernism, have most emphatically embraced it. To great effect over the last 40 years or so.
    You would not enjoy Nietzsche, sir. He is fundamentally unsound. P.G. Wodehouse (Carry On, Jeeves)

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jan 2002
    Location
    victoria, australia. (1 address now)
    Posts
    50,947

    Default Re: Do You Think Donald Trump is a Post-Modern?

    Hmm,
    Properly presented, another comedy monologue. Spoken fast with no breaks and minimum breaths.
    Western educated upper middle class diletantism.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Between Bourgeoisie and Proletariat - Australia
    Posts
    2,326

    Default Re: Do You Think Donald Trump is a Post-Modern?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholas Carey View Post
    Many postmodern claims are a deliberate repudiation of certain 18th-century Enlightenment values. Such a postmodernist believes that there is no objective natural reality, and that logic and reason are mere conceptual constructs that are not universally valid. Two other characteristic postmodern practices are a denial that human nature exists, and a (sometimes moderate) skepticism toward claims that science and technology will change society for the better. Postmodernists also believe there are no objective moral values. Thus, postmodern philosophy suggests equality for all things. One's concept of good and another's concept of evil are to be equally correct, since good and evil are subjective. Since both good and evil are equally correct, a postmodernist then tolerates both concepts, even if he or she disagrees with them subjectively.[9][10] Postmodern writings often focus on deconstructing the role that power and ideology play in shaping discourse and belief. Postmodern philosophy shares ontological similarities with classical skeptical and relativistic belief systems, and shares political similarities with modern identity politics.
    Its worth keeping in mind that Post-Modernism was a response to Modernism - AFTER WWI and WWII (chuck in a depression too for luck).

    We have reinvigorated our belief in science and technology - for all the shoutiness of the extremist wingnuts.
    Post-Post-Modernist-Modernists?
    "People should be able to access these benefits [Social Welfare] as a matter of right, with no more loss of their own standards of self-respect than would be involved in collecting from an insurance company the proceeds of an endowment policy on which they have been paying premiums for years."
    Robert Menzies - Liberal Party (Conservative) Prime Minister of Australia.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    24,250

    Default Re: Do You Think Donald Trump is a Post-Modern?

    Bump for those who actually give a rip.
    Rattling the teacups.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Entry Level
    Posts
    17,335

    Default Re: Do You Think Donald Trump is a Post-Modern?

    In my understanding of post-modernism , it at least has a pretense of an intellectual heritage. Red-ism is anti-intellectual.
    He's a Mexican. -- Donald Trump.
    America cannot survive another four years of Barack Obama. -- Governor Chris Christie (R) New Jersey
    It wasn't racism, it was an attack on Christianity. -- Fox News
    Crying white mothers are ratings gold. -- National Rifle Association

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •