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    Quote Originally Posted by Osborne Russell View Post
    On the contrary. You chase down as many as you can because, again, the point isn't finding the e-mails, the point is finding who has them, and how they got them.
    That's what the "to" and "from" information on the email is for. They already had that information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sleek View Post
    She directly ordered the deploying military force to stop and turn back. Many reports of that. Unforgivable.
    OK.

    What just happened here is that I challenged your assertion that HRC caused the deaths of those men, and I asked for a cite.

    Your response was to RE-assert the same, bogus notion.

    If you want to win an argument around these parts, then you have to do a little research.

    If you can supply CREDIBLE sources that back your position, I will accept them.

    Until then, it's just, like, your opinion, man!

    Rattling the teacups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ljb5 View Post
    That's what the "to" and "from" information on the email is for. They already had that information.
    Then why didn't they find the laptop until after the investigation was closed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osborne Russell View Post
    Then why didn't they find the laptop until after the investigation was closed?
    Because "to" and "from" tell you the name of the people who sent and received the message. (The information that is relevant to the investigation)

    'To' and 'from' don't tell you which computer they were using when they read it. And it certainly doesn't tell you the location of a computer that was used to make a backup of a portable electronic device that was used to access the email.


    You seem to be putting an unnatural amount of emphasis on the location of a computer. The investigation was primarily about the content of the emails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Woodward View Post
    Because Comey didn't really have a choice. If he had not come forward with this new information, the Rebublicans would have had Christmas Morning, Kwanza, Chanukah, and The Breaking of Ramadan Fast all rolled into one beautiful present with which to beat the Democrats with and show the American people what the dishonest FBI was hiding, in order to guarantee a Hillary win, when it did come to light.
    Because Comey, and everyone else in America never, ever considered that Donald FngJ. Trump would ever, ever win.
    You're exactly right.

    Comey may have broken protocol, but he did this because the Republicans (and their propaganda arm, FOX News) had created a poisonous, impossible environment where nothing he did could be considered acceptable.

    We blame Comey for breaking procedure, but we give Gowdy and Issa a pass on their awful behavior simply because we know they're blatant partisan hacks who are expected to act without principle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sleek View Post
    Im not ok with the idea if an unsecured phone. Id like to know its usage is heavily monitored.
    Oh, it's being monitored:

    https://arstechnica.com/information-...r-white-house/

    Probably by the Russians, the Chinese, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ljb5 View Post
    Because "to" and "from" tell you the name of the people who sent and received the message. (The information that is relevant to the investigation)

    'To' and 'from' don't tell you which computer they were using when they read it. And it certainly doesn't tell you the location of a computer that was used to make a backup of a portable electronic device that was used to access the email.
    Well, you brought it up. So it is necessary to find the location by other means. Unless and until you find that, you have no idea what the content is.

    Quote Originally Posted by ljb5 View Post
    You seem to be putting an unnatural amount of emphasis on the location of a computer. The investigation was primarily about the content of the emails.
    Nope. The content is classified, next question. Who possesses, to which where is related. The search is for crimes which are committed by persons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Woodward View Post
    My understanding of the Comey situation regarding Wiener is that the laptop in question was being used by Wiener to carry on his sexting rather than use his own phone. It was a back up, or older computer of Abedin's that Wiener had co-opted for his own use. When the FBI became aware of it as part of the investigation into Weiner's weenie winking, they found it to contain classified e-mails of Abedin's between her and her boss, Hillary Clinton. After further investigation, the e-mails were found to be redundant back-ups that they had already seen and dismissed.
    Comey came out with the fact that they had found this new source and that the case was reopened before they determined that the e-mails were copies of material that they had already investigated.
    Why?
    Because Comey didn't really have a choice. If he had not come forward with this new information, the Rebublicans would have had Christmas Morning, Kwanza, Chanukah, and The Breaking of Ramadan Fast all rolled into one beautiful present with which to beat the Democrats with and show the American people what the dishonest FBI was hiding, in order to guarantee a Hillary win, when it did come to light.
    Because Comey, and everyone else in America never, ever considered that Donald FngJ. Trump would ever, ever win.
    Comey's dilemma would have not have arisen had the laptop been found earlier. Why wasn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osborne Russell View Post
    Well, you brought it up. So it is necessary to find the location by other means.
    Only if your interest is finding the location. If your interest is finding the content, then all you need to know is the content.

    Unless and until you find that, you have no idea what the content is.
    Ah, but they did know what the content was. They already had all the emails. They were turned over voluntarily.

    You still haven't explained why you're only interested in the Abedin/Weiner laptop.

    If we were to follow your advice, the FBI would need to track down (and take possession of) every computer and every personal electronic device used by every person Hillary had ever sent an email to (or received an email from.)

    Plus, all the recipient-side servers, and all the routers and cloud-based backups that every person everywhere had ever used.

    As I explained earlier, there simply is no mechanism for omniscience. You're looking at this with the benefit of hindsight, but the FBI was only able to proceed with the evidence (and probable cause) they had available to them at the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sleek View Post
    And she deserves everything mankind can throw her way. I dont give a rats @$$about anythong she ever dod wrong in comparrison to Benghazi. She intentionally took actions that directly ensured deaths of american men.i hope her life is long and miserable
    No, this is what "directly ensured deaths of american men."

    Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) acknowledged on Wednesday that House Republicans had consciously voted to reduce the funds allocated to the State Department for embassy security since winning the majority in 2010.

    You're a simpleton, and some one needs to take the "Smartphone" (or whatever you use to post) away from you.
    You just embarrass yourself every time you post. Although, you do have a long road ahead in order to catch up with the "Village Idiot" from Oregon.
    At least it gives you something to aspire to. Have at it.

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    Im not so daft as to say, oh, well he is blamless because im... whatever.

    The safety and security of our people in hostile regions should be a top priority. If we are not going to commit to all measures to ensure the protection of our interests, then they are not our interests and we should withdraw them. Bring them home if we arent going to back them. That makes me sivk. And no, i didnt know that bit of info. Last two years, i have been away from any and all news.

    Im playing catch up here in the bilge. Hellova ride

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Woodward View Post
    Anthony Wiener had it. It was only found as a result of the criminal investigation into his activities. It was an old one of Abedin's that he had taken and used.
    As Abedin knew. How come she didn't tell the FBI? How come they didn't ask?

    If she gave it to him after her interview, it means it was still her computer at the time of the interview. If it didn't occur to them to ask, they were negligent.

    If she gave it to him before the interview, maybe it didn't occur to her to tell them. If it didn't occur to them to ask, they were negligent.

    How did we get into this mess in the first place? Because it became clear that Hillary and Huma had, shall we say, an imperfect grasp of the situation. Investigators must expect to have to coax the information out of them.
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