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    Default Prediction how it will play out between Kim/Trump

    Trump will storm out of meeting within the first hour, bitching because "Kim was not serious" about peace". This does several things for Trump; it permits him to keep referring to Kim as "Little Rocket Man", which is important to Trump.

    Furthermore, it makes Trump appear to be the bastion of World against a warlike dictator (never mind Crimea).

    Furthermore, it keeps the focus on Trump for another week or so, which is VERY important (to use Trump's very favorite word).

    This is all just a theatre performance for ratings, which are important to Trump.

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    Default Re: Prediction how it will play out between Kim/Trump

    This is trending on Chinese social media right now:


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    Kim will say "You can have your peace treaty, and in return then I want the US to withdraw all it's military from the peninsula".
    And BTW, technically the treaty has to be between NK and SK. A US general signed the armistice on behalf of the UN's police action, SK never did.

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    It will be interesting to see which Dictator can lie the best at this summit.

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    There has been speculation about the safety of Kim's position in NK, especially if the outcome for him is less than satisfactory. Donald too needs a good outcome, maybe more so for mid-term electoral reasons and a hedge against the Russia investigations.
    A peace treaty would be a sugar hit for Donald, but might be more problematic for the US in the longer term because of Chinese assumption of control in the Sth China Sea. Military access to SK ports will be very important strategically. But I do not think Donald has any conception of long term foreign policy, and for quite some time US policy has weather vaned with successive administrations anyhow.

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    They will meet.
    They will agree to meet again.
    They will not decide anything.
    Both will come away declaring victory over the other.
    Nothing will change.
    Trump will hint at a Nobel Prize.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmd View Post
    They will meet.
    They will agree to meet again.
    They will not decide anything.
    Both will come away declaring victory over the other.
    Nothing will change.
    Trump will hint at a Nobel Prize.
    You nailed it. This is exactly what will happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmd View Post
    They will meet.
    They will agree to meet again.
    They will not decide anything.
    Both will come away declaring victory over the other.
    Nothing will change.
    Trump will hint at a Nobel Prize.
    Nailed it!

    I'd add hint STRONGLY at the Nobel Prize!

    Many people are suggesting it! Many people....but I don't know!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmd View Post
    They will meet.
    They will agree to meet again.
    They will not decide anything.
    Both will come away declaring victory over the other.
    Nothing will change.
    Trump will hint at a Nobel Prize.
    and it’s a witch hunt
    it’s Obama’s fault
    what it is changes from day to day.

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    Kim will win the best of three Rock Em Sock Em Robot battle, while Trump will best him at Tic Tac Toe.

    The shirtless, oiled grass wrestling will end in a draw, and be a loss for all humanity.

    China wins! Wait, we’re China, right? (Okay, I stole that...)

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    nothing because Kim has already won by showing up to meet with dim witted Humpty Thrumpty for just a photo op. the red kings horsemen and the fumbling blue men will be scrambling to explain this egg yolk while those like Bobby will rejoice in the confusion to understand why libs hate omelets that are picked off the floor.




    Photo ops are what this president cares about most and Kim gives up nothing and in return gets sanction relief.
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    Default Re: Prediction how it will play out between Kim/Trump

    Odd how libs bet on failure with so much at stake just for political advantage.

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    Not for political advantage, bobbys. Trump is walking onto a playing field that he not only is unprepared for, but into a game that he seems to not understand. Kim has the advantage of being the third generation of his family to play at jousting with western democracies; Trump thinks that preparation is unnecessary. Kim will have learned from his father and his grandfather how to appear to comply to western requests/demands to achieve sanctions relief and good PR at home without actually doing anything in return. Trump will fail to see that the promises by Kim are insincere and will declare a victory, but such pronouncements will come back to haunt him in the future. In the real world, nothing will change, except Trump will come out of this looking foolish. This has all happened before.
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    Default Re: Prediction how it will play out between Kim/Trump

    Did they meet yet? Cuz I would 've predicted that would never happen.

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    9am tomorrow Singapore time 9 pm tonight est time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbys View Post
    Odd how libs bet on failure with so much at stake just for political advantage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Smith porter maine View Post
    9am tomorrow Singapore time 9 pm tonight est time.
    I'd love to see that broadcast live, but that will never happen . In truth, any talks like that should be behind closed doors. I'd just like to hear an honest assessment about how the talks go. Trump and FOX will claim victory, MSNBC and the left will claim failure. I believe the latter will be the truth.
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    Default Re: Prediction how it will play out between Kim/Trump

    I’m not counting on much and I am sure I won’t be disappointed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmd View Post
    Not for political advantage, bobbys. Trump is walking onto a playing field that he not only is unprepared for, but into a game that he seems to not understand. Kim has the advantage of being the third generation of his family to play at jousting with western democracies; Trump thinks that preparation is unnecessary. Kim will have learned from his father and his grandfather how to appear to comply to western requests/demands to achieve sanctions relief and good PR at home without actually doing anything in return. Trump will fail to see that the promises by Kim are insincere and will declare a victory, but such pronouncements will come back to haunt him in the future. In the real world, nothing will change, except Trump will come out of this looking foolish. This has all happened before.
    Yeah, probly.

    Is there any chance that the unthinkable-in-chief is just staging a moment wherein to launch the history-making pre-emptive nuclear strike that no one would ever seriously think of doing and thereby become the greatest president* to ever annihilate a shirthole country? He'll tweet that he gave Little Rocket Man a last chance to change his mind and have peace, but he was treated very badly and unfairly, so unfairly by the guy with the funny haircut and odd name.
    I don't care to know what the tough do when the going gets tough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Mahan
    Is there any chance that the unthinkable-in-chief is just staging a moment wherein to launch the history-making pre-emptive nuclear strike that no one would ever seriously think of doing and thereby become the greatest president* to ever annihilate a shirthole country? He'll tweet that he gave Little Rocket Man a last chance to change his mind and have peace, but he was treated very badly and unfairly, so unfairly by the guy with the funny haircut and odd name.
    Yes, there is that chance.
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    Badly.
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    My hunch is that Xi and Kim are going to pull his toenails out and he'll come out and state how great he feels.

    Seriously, both our current president and Kim seem to adhere to the 'madman' theory, so we shall see which one can do it most convincingly.

    And for the record, do I want to see genuine peace emerge on the Korean peninsula? Yes. Even if it is brokered by our current president? Yes. Will he get a Nobel out of it? No, because they will give one to Kim and Moon instead and punish our current president for his international boorishness and for screwing the Iran deal.
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    I'd put my money on MMD's forecast. Irrespective of the outcome, it will be the "greatest victory in the history of American international diplomacy as I return with the biggest bucket of warm spit ever secured by an American leader!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmd View Post
    They will meet.
    They will agree to meet again.
    They will not decide anything.
    Both will come away declaring victory over the other.
    Nothing will change.
    Trump will hint at a Nobel Prize.
    Quote Originally Posted by SKIP KILPATRICK View Post
    Nailed it!

    I'd add hint STRONGLY at the Nobel Prize!

    Many people are suggesting it! Many people....but I don't know!
    Quote Originally Posted by mmd View Post
    Not for political advantage, bobbys. Trump is walking onto a playing field that he not only is unprepared for, but into a game that he seems to not understand. Kim has the advantage of being the third generation of his family to play at jousting with western democracies; Trump thinks that preparation is unnecessary. Kim will have learned from his father and his grandfather how to appear to comply to western requests/demands to achieve sanctions relief and good PR at home without actually doing anything in return. Trump will fail to see that the promises by Kim are insincere and will declare a victory, but such pronouncements will come back to haunt him in the future. In the real world, nothing will change, except Trump will come out of this looking foolish. This has all happened before.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gerarddm View Post
    My hunch is that Xi and Kim are going to pull his toenails out and he'll come out and state how great he feels.

    Seriously, both our current president and Kim seem to adhere to the 'madman' theory, so we shall see which one can do it most convincingly.

    And for the record, do I want to see genuine peace emerge on the Korean peninsula? Yes. Even if it is brokered by our current president? Yes. Will he get a Nobel out of it? No, because they will give one to Kim and Moon instead and punish our current president for his international boorishness and for screwing the Iran deal.



    Nice summation.
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    Default Re: Prediction how it will play out between Kim/Trump

    So, who paid for Kim to be there, the US or China? I'm leaning toward China.

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    ^ Singapore, I think. ( I dunno, ask McMullen ).
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    China supplied Kimmy's plane, it's crew, it's listening devices and likely a few intelligence officers masquerading as staff.
    I think Singapore picked up the hotel tab.

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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...cid=spartandhp

    Turned out to be largely a photo op.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholas Scheuer View Post
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...cid=spartandhp

    Turned out to be largely a photo op.
    Exactly as planned but i did expect trump to throw a hissy fit.
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    OK I'll take a wag at it, before Kim gives up his nukes, he wants a peace treaty that involves NK, SK, China possibly Russia and the US all as signatories, and Trump will agree to further talks about that, nothing much more, Kim's rational will be peace first, then mutual disarmament. China and Russia will lift sanctions to ease pressure on Kim.

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    I think every tin pot dictator in the world took a lesson from what happened to Sadam when he should have had WMD but didn't. If he's had a nuclear weapon or two he'd still be alive and leader of Iraq.

    I suspect Kim noticed too.
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    I'm sorry Peter but if he can hit Japan or Sidney with a nuke he is a modern stalin, no longer tin pot.

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    @bobbys it's not liberals who are playing this for political advantage. It's Xi Jinpeng.

    We should all be scared of Xi, if you are not, please explain why.
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    Default Re: Prediction how it will play out between Kim/Trump

    So did trump show up? Are they meeting right now?

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    Yep, got the money shot shaking hands. The rest is immaterial.

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