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    Interesting headline/thread title ... I was unaware it was cancelled.
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    It may simply be an expected and temporary hickup. At lunch yesterday in Seoul with Korean business men, the conversation about Kim came up. Everyone thinks there is real opportunity in the North - from infrastructure, to minerals to consumer products and was speculating on which companies and countries would benefit. One fellow said that he had heard, and this may be total BS, that North Korean Military officers were in meetings with US Military counterparts discussing details of disarmament details, when the US showed them live images of events happening in Pyongyang taken from stealth aircraft that penetrated NK airspace and were over the city at that moment. The NK officers thought it was fabricated, but contacted their colleagues in NK who confirmed that the events were indeed accurate. If true, it certainly demonstrates technological capability in radar and meta-material capabilities of the US War machine. Im not sure if the fellow meant this is what irritated Kim to speak out or what brought Kim to the negotiation table. Lots of speculation everywhere, but I think the economic opportunities for many people in the region from China and South Korea to North Korea are the real motivation and likely won't be deterred by other things. Kim may have been simply responding to Bolton who was off message from all negotiation details and the mutually agreed public script to date, in the cause of old world strong-arm idealism tactics. Asia in general is changing fast and I believe now represents the new "land of opportunity and economic growth"...by a country mile. People have been saying this for years, but experiencing the rapid changes over the 2 years I've been here, the growing collegiality of nations and businesspeople and adoption to new clean technologies (boy does china need it), it seems to me that nothing will stop the NK process, with or without the US gov.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanMc View Post
    can't we let this fake news thread title sink to the bottom already?
    Bobbing back up.

    According to The New York Times, Trump now believes he may have made a mistake in agreeing to meet with Kim, and worries that the summit could become a political embarrassment. “It doesn’t look like they want to denuclearize at all,” one U.S. official told The Washington Post, after Trump made a frantic call to Moon. “The North’s attitude is a pretty long distance away from what it appeared to be as Moon portrayed.”
    Diplomats and North Korea experts, however, say this was entirely predictable. “Kim Jong Un has not offered to give up his nuclear weapons. He has not done that. He has never said anything remotely close to that,” Jeffrey Lewis, the director of the East Asia Nonproliferation Program at Middlebury College, told me recently. “What he has said is that he is willing to endorse the kind of vague principle of the elimination of nuclear weapons.” But Trump, in his excitement over the prospect of a Nobel Peace Prize, inflated his expectations for the June 12 summit. As Korea expert Victor Cha noted, Kim had “not even reaffirmed the more definitive statements about denuclearization that were used by the North Koreans in the past,” during previous negotiations with Presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush. “It all sounds good if you are not aware of what North Korea’s strategy is. North Korea in the end, they do want a peace treaty, and they do want normalization, but they want those things as a nuclear-weapon state. . . . They’re willing to part with some of their capability, but they’re certainly not willing to part with all of it.”
    It is not clear, exactly, how this message got lost, or whether Trump merely misunderstood the context of the negotiations. White House aides told the Times they are concerned the president does not understand the elements of North Korea’s nuclear program—details with which Kim is intimately familiar—and that Trump “has resisted the kind of detailed briefings about enrichment capabilities, plutonium reprocessing, nuclear weapons production and missile programs that Mr. Obama and President George W. Bush regularly sat through.”
    “Trump Is Just a Moron”: How the President Played Himself on North Korea - Vanity Fair https://apple.news/AECrdXtevR4CUe-lnI6iYvg

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    Quote Originally Posted by brad9798 View Post
    Interesting headline/thread title ... I was unaware it was cancelled.
    maybe read a bit beyond the thread title. There are/were multiple meetings. It’s more complex than starting up a chain of steak houses.
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