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    When is the 2017-present Special Counsel investigation, going to result in criminal charges being levied against Mr Trump?
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    When it is finished!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rum_Pirate View Post
    When is the 2017-present Special Counsel investigation, going to result in criminal charges being levied against Mr Trump?

    When the investigation is complete, and no sooner, and only if there is evidence of criminality.
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    Patience, grasshopper.

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    September 1998
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norman Bernstein View Post
    When the investigation is complete, and no sooner, and only if there is evidence of criminality.
    Ah, a job for life.

    So far apparently:
    As of February 23, 2018, Mueller has secured guilty pleas from five people: Flynn, Gates, Papadopoulos, private citizen Richard Pinedo, and Dutch attorney Alexvan der Zwaan.
    Additional indictments have been issued against Manafort, thirteen Russian citizens, and three Russian entities.
    On April 3, 2018, van der Zwaan was sentenced to 30 days in prison, and fined $20,000.
    According to former FBI Director James Comey, Trump himself was not a subject of the FBI's investigation as of May 9, 2017, when Comey was fired.
    As of March 2018, Trump is reportedly a "subject" of the investigation, meaning his conduct is being looked at, but not a "target" which would indicate the likelihood of criminal charges.
    Any updates?
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    It may not ever result in criminal charges against Mr. Trump; depends on what they find.
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    Giuliani bragged last week that the White House, in cooperating with the Mueller probe, has provided the special prosecutor with "millions of pages of documents." He then proceeded to say Mueller needs to wrap up his investigation soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Montgomery View Post
    Giuliani bragged last week that the White House, in cooperating with the Mueller probe, has provided the special prosecutor with "millions of pages of documents." He then proceeded to say Mueller needs to wrap up his investigation soon.

    You guys are funny!
    Well at least the WH handed them over rather than destroying them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rum_Pirate View Post
    When is the 2017-present Special Counsel investigation, going to result in criminal charges being levied against Mr Trump?
    Watergate took more than two years to unfold.

    That's just the way things work in reality. Get used to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rum_Pirate View Post
    Well at least the WH handed them over rather than destroying them.
    We don't know for certain that they didn't destroy any.

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    Justice's molars grind finely.

    Masticate on, Mr. Mueller.
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    i doubt they ever come up with charges on trump. but that's really not the goal of the investigation.

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    Given the "constraints" of the Mueller Inquisition, they'll soon/eventually be coming for you and me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Montgomery View Post
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    Patience, grasshopper.

    January 1994
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    August 1994
    Fiske is replaced by the more conservative Kenneth Starr as the independent counsel investigating the Whitewater scandal.

    September 1998
    The Starr report is released.
    And they never found any impropriety re Whitewater.

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    Meuller was ordered to investigate links or coordination between the Russian Government and individuals associated with the campaign of Trump.



    It will end when he is finished with his job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanMc View Post
    i doubt they ever come up with charges on trump. but that's really not the goal of the investigation.
    Mueller has basically run this as a RICO investigation since the beginning—which indicates to me that naming Trump as an unindicted co-conspirator is well within the realm of possibility. Criminal charges are less likely while Trump is in office due to the constitutional questions it would raise.

    My guess is that Mueller is pretty quiet right now because of the nature and complexity of what’s been found. The idea being floated by the Trumpistas, that Mueller has virtually nothing, is IMO a despairs fantasy that will eventually turn out to be 180 degrees away from the truth.

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    Not even a year and look what's turned up -

    As of February 23, 2018, Mueller has secured guilty pleas from five people: Flynn, Gates, Papadopoulos, private citizen Richard Pinedo, and Dutch attorney Alexvan der Zwaan.
    Additional indictments have been issued against Manafort, thirteen Russian citizens, and three Russian entities.


    Witch hunt indeed! LMAO

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    hey john, what were those charges and pleas again?

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    Knock yourself out.
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    All these Reds are simply DESPERATE for it to be over, with their Sleazy Jesus off scot free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oznabrag View Post
    All these Reds are simply DESPERATE for it to be over, with their Sleazy Jesus off scot free.
    Is it wise to invoke the moderator's name in your posts in reference to Mr Trump?
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    Guilty pleas along with cooperation in consideration of a sentence reduction—and those types of agreements aren’t negotiated for fun. Yet another shoe that will drop...

    If someone is a Trump insider there are undoubtably a lot of sleepless nights endured while pondering the extent of potential criminal culpability...

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    In my opinion, if we get out from under this criminal, he's going to regret having upset the ship of state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rum_Pirate View Post
    Is it wise to invoke the moderator's name in your posts in reference to Mr Trump?
    The moderator's name is 'Scot', not 'scot'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oznabrag View Post
    The moderator's name is 'Scot', not 'scot'.

    I was giving you the benefit of doubt regarding your ability of capitalization and typos.

    Would hate for you to be banned for that.
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    And then there’s Michael Cohen...look for a guilty plea in exchange for a sentence recommendation sometime soon.

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    Cohen is the mother lode

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeG View Post
    Cohen is the mother lode
    I think he's the tickle before the real action.
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    Mueller may be staying silent but Avenatti sure as hell isn’t.

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    Hey RP, were you this concerned about the time other investigations took in the past?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rum_Pirate View Post
    I was giving you the benefit of doubt regarding your ability of capitalization and typos.

    Would hate for you to be banned for that.
    Choose any 1,000 of my posts, and you might actually find a typo.
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    Who started this thread anyhow?
    I must research!
    Ooops...Rum Pirate! I can scarcely believe my eyes.
    The chronic Anti-American Red from the small island in the middle of nowhere wants us to hurry up and drop this important, nay, Critical, investigation of Gangsters, Traitors, Bushwhackers, and Moral Deviants!
    Is anyone else as shocked as I am?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oznabrag View Post
    Choose any 1,000 of my posts, and you might actually find a typo.
    I think you spelled Amarillo "armadillo" once, or was I sipping Tequila and simply misread it?
    Furthermore, why would a man with Rum's screwed up world view challenge anyone's typing?
    Hell, if the man spent a fraction of his time, he could likely become more LIBERAL and more SANE and more HUMANITARIAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Longino View Post
    Who started this thread anyhow?
    I must research!
    Ooops...Rum Pirate! I can scarcely believe my eyes.
    The chronic Anti-American Red from the small island in the middle of nowhere wants us to hurry up and drop this important, nay, Critical, investigation of Gangsters, Traitors, Bushwhackers, and Moral Deviants!
    Is anyone else as shocked as I am?
    No.



    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Longino View Post
    I think you spelled Amarillo "armadillo" once, or was I sipping Tequila and simply misread it?
    Furthermore, why would a man with Rum's screwed up world view challenge anyone's typing?
    Hell, if the man spent a fraction of his time, he could likely become more LIBERAL and more SANE and more HUMANITARIAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Good to be back here, ain't it, John?
    Yes.

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    damn good to have you guys back.

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