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    AS they were celebrating our embassy opening in Jerusalem, people in Gaza were being killed.

    Strange way to bring peace.
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    33 countries sent representatives. Canada, the UK, Australia, New Zealand not among them.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/...141915625.html
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    Now that Trump has destroyed ANY hope of a two state solution, we can expect the violence to accelerate... and many more will be killed in the months and years to come.
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    If the state you're in governs you without your consent, you have to have your own state. If you can't have that either, what are you supposed to do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osborne Russell View Post
    If the state you're in governs you without your consent, you have to have your own state. If you can't have that either, what are you supposed to do?
    The only difference between a freedom fighter, and a terrorist, is who is on top.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norman Bernstein View Post
    The only difference between a freedom fighter, and a terrorist, is who is on top.
    OK, but is everyone who seeks self-government a terrorist?
    He's a Mexican. -- Donald Trump.
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    Big recruitment drive for IS by Israel and Hamas. Such cooperation is amazing.

    And Kushners speech…."….shown America can be trusted……"
    (Cue hollow laughter)

    and I note that christianity got a guernsey via Pastor Jeffries of the Southern Baptists………… good one………. given his past comments on Jews, Muslims, Mormons…………….
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    Can anyone remember Daniel crowing about the fact that there was no violence when Trump announced the move?

    As befitting a moral coward, he seems to be quiet now.

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    I did not realise embassy openings required a blood sacrifice.

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    Jared should just stay there. I'm not sure to whom he pledges allegiance, Israel or the U.S.


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    Israel has a new tactic, with demonstrators. The 55 deaths so far are being reported.... But what isn't being reported is the new tactic of Israeli snipers shooting at the legs of the demonstrators. As many as 1,000 may have been shot this way.... With many requiring amputations. It's a way to sideline demonstrators without running up the death count.

    I imagine Trump would heartily endorse this.
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    We have the technology for soft deterrence in the form of focused sound and heat projectors. Why not use those instead of live ammo?

    Answer: the new barbarism.
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    It seems there were not many attendees from other countries legations.

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    I saw a photo of Ivanka showing off the sign bolted to the side of the building. In letters about 3" tall, you see U.S. Embassy, Jerusalem. Down below, in the same size letters, you see President Donald Trump.

    The ego maniac has his own name on equal footing as the name of the embassy. I'm surprised there isn't a giant Trump sign up on the roof!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Jones View Post
    I saw a photo of Ivanka showing off the sign bolted to the side of the building. In letters about 3" tall, you see U.S. Embassy, Jerusalem. Down below, in the same size letters, you see President Donald Trump.

    The ego maniac has his own name on equal footing as the name of the embassy. I'm surprised there isn't a giant Trump sign up on the roof!
    The Trump branding is emblazoned everywhere in Jerusalem, on busses, signposts etc etc.......

    This seems extremely inappropriate to me that it's all about TRUMP.......



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    Quote Originally Posted by Norman Bernstein View Post
    Israel has a new tactic, with demonstrators. The 55 deaths so far are being reported.... But what isn't being reported is the new tactic of Israeli snipers shooting at the legs of the demonstrators. As many as 1,000 may have been shot this way.... With many requiring amputations. It's a way to sideline demonstrators without running up the death count.

    I imagine Trump would heartily endorse this.
    Been going on for years apparently. Here's a report from 2016...

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/...bank-1.5429695

    I imagine Obama would heartily endorsed this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Jones View Post
    I saw a photo of Ivanka showing off the sign bolted to the side of the building. In letters about 3" tall, you see U.S. Embassy, Jerusalem. Down below, in the same size letters, you see President Donald Trump.

    The ego maniac has his own name on equal footing as the name of the embassy. I'm surprised there isn't a giant Trump sign up on the roof!




    It's an inauguration plaque, not the main sign.

    Besides... if he's gonna take the heat for moving the embassy, he might as well get his name on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norman Bernstein View Post
    Israel has a new tactic, with demonstrators. The 55 deaths so far are being reported.... But what isn't being reported is the new tactic of Israeli snipers shooting at the legs of the demonstrators. As many as 1,000 may have been shot this way.... With many requiring amputations. It's a way to sideline demonstrators without running up the death count.

    I imagine Trump would heartily endorse this.
    At least 1350 wounded by gunfire. There is a picture in the NY Times of an elderly gentleman on the ground. One foot is bare and it is clearly pointing the wrong way. His lower leg is shattered by what we can only assume is one of these leg shots.

    The Gaza strip is the most densely populated and poorest regions in the world.

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    There is a smell off this that America will not be able to wash off.

    This is the week Palestinians mark the 'Nakba', the catstrophy, when 700,000 people were violently ejected from their homes or fled in fear for their lives.

    Talk about spitting in someones face.

    I'm sure our USA conservative forumites in particular must be furious to see their country support the violent submission of a sovereign people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Jones View Post
    The ego maniac has his own name on equal footing as the name of the embassy. I'm surprised there isn't a giant Trump sign up on the roof!
    Screw the Arabs, think of the donations to his next election campaign.
    What'll be the promise then - something about the border perhaps....? The wingnuts will get behind that, they're obsessed with borders and walls.
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    They shoved all the bad people into one place.

    Then they built walls around it. I think that's called a "ghetto."










    Then they went about killing the people who were caged there.








    Seems like this sort of thing happened before, somewhere else.
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    ^Palestinians are allowed to work in Israel.
    Their work will set them free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gypsie View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Jones View Post
    I saw a photo of Ivanka showing off the sign bolted to the side of the building. In letters about 3" tall, you see U.S. Embassy, Jerusalem. Down below, in the same size letters, you see President Donald Trump.

    The ego maniac has his own name on equal footing as the name of the embassy. I'm surprised there isn't a giant Trump sign up on the roof!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norman Bernstein View Post
    Now that Trump has destroyed ANY hope of a two state solution, we can expect the violence to accelerate... and many more will be killed in the months and years to come.
    Odd, Clinton and Obama said they would have done the same thing..

    No protests from the left then, just cheering..

    O well maybe they spewed anything to get elected..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hallam View Post
    The Trump branding is emblazoned everywhere in Jerusalem, on busses, signposts etc etc.......

    This seems extremely inappropriate to me that it's all about TRUMP.......



    Trump is not limited to just MAGA.

    He had enough gumption to make them great as well!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbys View Post
    Trump is not limited to just MAGA.

    He had enough gumption to make them great as well!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbys View Post
    Odd, Clinton and Obama said they would have done the same thing.
    Fake News Bobbys


    Jerusalem is recognized as the capital of Israel in US law. It became law under Clinton without a presidential signature, and as a result the embassy was to move there.
    Before Trump successive presidents, including Clinton and Obama, have signed waivers every six months to keep the embassy out of Jerusalem.
    Obama said it was because moving the embassy would be explosive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbys View Post
    Odd, Clinton and Obama said they would have done the same thing..

    No protests from the left then, just cheering..

    O well maybe they spewed anything to get elected..
    Done what same thing?

    Got a cite?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gypsie View Post
    Fake News Bobbys


    Jerusalem is recognized as the capital of Israel in US law. It became law under Clinton without a presidential signature, and as a result the embassy was to move there.
    Before Trump successive presidents, including Clinton and Obama, have signed waivers every six months to keep the embassy out of Jerusalem.
    Obama said it was because moving the embassy would be explosive.
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    Done what same thing?

    Got a cite?
    I see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianW View Post




    It's an inauguration plaque, not the main sign.

    Besides... if he's gonna take the heat for moving the embassy, he might as well get his name on it.
    The trip hazard, Sheeesh!! You'd think they would use a radio mic!
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    RX might set off a bomb. Bet you nobody has a mobile phone either.

    I wonder would the US set up an embassy to Palestine in East Jerusalem? Balance it out a bit, recognize the city as the capital of both countries.
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    Australia's Embassy will remain in Tel Aviv.
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    Thirty two people dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterSibley View Post
    Australia's Embassy will remain in Tel Aviv.
    .

    Australia will do what china wants them to do.

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