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    Psychology 101, if you want the person to grow.
    So many questions, so little time.

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    so many questions. . .
    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    Next time my neighbour needs a hand I'll tell him that Ismael said he should do it himself.

    You got a psych problem Ish?

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    Re the title, don't go telling my wife that.

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    It doesn't mean you don't help your fellow when they are in need. Not one bit. But strength, resilience to life's slings and arrows, is ultimately individual. When the darkness falls, as it is wont to do, you are alone baby.
    So many questions, so little time.

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    Of course, in the beginning, and at the end we are all alone. As are all species other than maybe the microbes………
    That's life, and death………….

    Enjoy what you can while you can, there's no reset button, no second go.

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    Just bear in mind that psychology 101 is almost always taught by the hardest core of neo-marxist shibboleth-spouting university professors. Don't fall for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SMARTINSEN View Post
    Just bear in mind that psychology 101 is almost always taught by the hardest core of neo-marxist shibboleth-spouting university professors. Don't fall for it.
    Well, you don't want to get into Jung and Whitman too early. That's pretty advanced stuff, there.

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    When I did any ironing, my dear husband used (hopefully) to hang some freshly laundered but unironed shirts in my line of sight. Occasionally, their pathos prevailed. Maybe I should have left them alone told him I was only trying to help him grow.......I'm sure he would have been grateful
    "Mozart is the heart's touchstone" (Edwin Fischer)

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMARTINSEN View Post
    Just bear in mind that psychology 101 is almost always taught by the hardest core of neo-marxist shibboleth-spouting university professors. Don't fall for it.
    Lmfao
    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    downthecreek, I do the laundry and the only items that require ironing in either of our wardrobes are Anne's choir shirts.
    Mum and pop were political animals and we all were trained early and had our rotating schedule of domestic jobs, all of them. And very grateful I have been too to be domestically self sufficient. Made quite a few girlfriends rather uneasy over the years too.

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    Jack, you're badly, badly mistaken. About 3/4 of the advancement of human civilization, most of the reason we live comparatively easy lives, is due to specialization, division of labor, and the fact that almost all of us do many, many things for others that they could in theory do for themselves, although less well and less efficiently. I don't grow my own food; I could. I don't generate my own electricity, although I could. I didn't build my own house or car. I didn't build the roads I drive on, I don't get the water I drink myself, I didn't build the internet I'm communicating on. Self-sufficiency equals poverty and an early death. We do much better together. Cooperation is why our species has overrun the planet, and why most of our children now live to grow up.
    "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations,
    for nature cannot be fooled."

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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    And very grateful I have been too to be domestically self sufficient. Made quite a few girlfriends rather uneasy over the years too.
    Bravo. So was my dear man, mostly, but it certainly didn't make me uneasy. Mind you, he'd been in the navy and they really did have to look after themselves. He, like all navy men, had a "hussif" (housewife) - a small pouch containing sewing materials etc. The hussifs went everywhere with them. My father had one too.

    But the shirts (and yes, quite a few were not "non iron") were his achilles heel (and mine)
    "Mozart is the heart's touchstone" (Edwin Fischer)

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    Substance: it's the important bit.
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    Good grief, more deep thoughts from the shallow end.
    Nosce te ipsum

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Dryfoot View Post
    Good grief, more deep thoughts from the shallow end.
    Almost anything can be deep enough to get over your head if you insist on lying down on the job.

    What are you doing about it?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Orca View Post
    Almost anything can be deep enough to get over your head if you insist on lying down on the job.
    Now THAT'S a keeper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David G View Post
    Now THAT'S a keeper.
    Thank you, I was rather pleased with it, myself.

    What are you doing about it?




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    If you build a man a fire, you'll keep him warm for the night.

    If you set a man on fire, you'll keep him warm the rest of his life!
    Nothing else matters but how I raise my children ... and their opinion of me, as a father.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brad9798 View Post
    If you build a man a fire, you'll keep him warm for the night.

    If you set a man on fire, you'll keep him warm the rest of his life!
    Exactly!

    What are you doing about it?




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    lmao
    Quote Originally Posted by brad9798 View Post
    If you build a man a fire, you'll keep him warm for the night.

    If you set a man on fire, you'll keep him warm the rest of his life!

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    Making a man do for himself may give him hairy hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian McColgin View Post
    Making a man do for himself may give him hairy hands.
    Have we established whether that's murder? I'm having trouble keeping track.

    What are you doing about it?




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    Quote Originally Posted by brad9798 View Post
    If you build a man a fire, you'll keep him warm for the night.

    If you set a man on fire, you'll keep him warm the rest of his life!
    And, possibly, yourself - for eternity
    "Mozart is the heart's touchstone" (Edwin Fischer)

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    Well, if someone asks for help I try to help him.
    Even if is is just by answering a simple question about a Drascombe boat.

    Being alone in your pursuits is never as enjoyable as with some friendly help.
    But you know that or you wouldn't be here.

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    What would Jesus do? My guess is he would offer a helping hand.
    War is peace.
    Freedom is slavery.
    Ignorance is strength.
    Trump is doing beautifully.

    A middle-class white man virtue slinging at other white men on a forum populated almost exclusively by privileged elderly white men.





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    "Have we established whether that's murder? I'm having trouble keeping track." [#23]

    Maybe for certain confused literalists who falsely use the term "onanism" for masterbation.

    Genisis 38:9-10
    " . . . when he [Onan] went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother. . . And the thing which he did displeased the Lord: wherefore he slew him also.

    Not an easy bit to exegete for the Sunday sermon.

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    Maybe he is refering to trump pardoning himself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian McColgin View Post
    "Have we established whether that's murder? I'm having trouble keeping track." [#23]

    Maybe for certain confused literalists who falsely use the term "onanism" for masterbation.
    Can you imagine if they started "slewing" each other for wanking? It would be kind of hilarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ishmael View Post
    Psychology 101, if you want the person to grow.
    Maybe child psychology, for mom to help teach 5 year old children.
    Most of us are done growing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Orca View Post
    Can you imagine if they started "slewing" each other for wanking? It would be kind of hilarious.
    With implants and technology being what it is today, it's entirely possible to keep track of such things. Seems fair to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Dryfoot View Post
    With implants and technology being what it is today, it's entirely possible to keep track of such things. Seems fair to me.
    And maybe good for the gene pool, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    so many questions. . .
    . . . so little point. Why bother?

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    If you give a man a fish, don't forget the bicycle.
    We're merely mammals. Let's misbehave! óCole Porter

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    I'm struggling to think of something I can't do.

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