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    A scientific expedition will next year try to find the Endurance, the ill-fated ship of Antarctic explorer Sir Ernest Shackleton.

    The vessel sank in 1915, crushed by sea-ice in the Weddell Sea and lost in 3,000m of water.

    Shackleton and his crew were forced into lifeboats to make an extraordinary and heroic escape across the Southern Ocean.

    UK researcher Prof Julian Dowdeswell will lead the international effort.

    He expects to have the cruise on station in January/February.

    Locating the shipwreck is not the primary goal of the expedition; the major objective is to visit and study the Larsen C Ice Shelf, which last July calved one of the biggest icebergs ever recorded in Antarctica.

    But because Larsen is so close to the last known position of the Endurance, it makes sense to also have a go at finding the famous ship.

    "It would be a shame not to," said Prof Dowdeswell, the director of the Scott Polar Research Institute (SPRI) in Cambridge.

    "In our study of Larsen, we will be operating autonomous underwater vehicles (AUVs). But if we can get them in range of where Endurance is thought to be, we will send them under the ice to do a survey.

    "They are fitted with downward-looking multi-beam echosounders, which can map out on a grid the shape of the seafloor. You look at that for any signs of the ship and then focus in with cameras if you find something interesting."
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    " So close" to her last known position?

    So what. The ice has moved a LOT in the past 100+ years, as have the currents. I imagine trying to locate her would be almost as hard as locating MD370.
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    While searching for Shackleton's ship will probably titillate the imaginations of people with an interest in arctic exploration, if found, what is the value of the find? The ship was extensively documented prior to its loss, it was well photographed during its loss, no lives were lost on it, and its crew were all saved and went on to well document their ordeal. What can be gained by its discovery? It is too deep, and probably too destroyed anyway, to be recovered, and it can contribute little or nothing to history, so what is the point?
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    Same point as finding Erebus and Terror. None at all. Not to mention the extreme cost of operating even a few hours in the Antarctic. Not to mention if they lost one of their devices while looking.
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    Well, the loss of the Erebus and Terror did leave a mystery to be solved (or at least a presumption to be proven), and a contribution to Canadian and Northern history not to mention vindication for Inuit oral history, so their discovery was not for naught, but I agree that the cost of discovery was immense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmd View Post
    While searching for Shackleton's ship will probably titillate the imaginations of people with an interest in arctic exploration, if found, what is the value of the find? The ship was extensively documented prior to its loss, it was well photographed during its loss, no lives were lost on it, and its crew were all saved and went on to well document their ordeal. What can be gained by its discovery? It is too deep, and probably too destroyed anyway, to be recovered, and it can contribute little or nothing to history, so what is the point?
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    I was in the whiskey store the other week and bought a bottle of single malt labeled Shackleton. Seems like one expedition to his winter camp uncovered 7 bottles of scotch left over from the 24 cases Sir Earnest brought with him- They had the whiskey duplicated and is now available in the US. Pretty good, but I like more peat and seaweed.

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    Default Re: Antarctic expedition hopes for Ernest Shackleton bonus

    Quote Originally Posted by mmd View Post
    While searching for Shackleton's ship will probably titillate the imaginations of people with an interest in arctic exploration, if found, what is the value of the find? The ship was extensively documented prior to its loss, it was well photographed during its loss, no lives were lost on it, and its crew were all saved and went on to well document their ordeal. What can be gained by its discovery? It is too deep, and probably too destroyed anyway, to be recovered, and it can contribute little or nothing to history, so what is the point?
    Did you not ever watch the spy movies where the diabolical evil genius covers his plan with a search like this?.

    I suspect they will corner us with some lazer weapons unless we cough up a MILLION dollars.

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