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  1. #771
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    Default Re: An offshore capable trailer boat ?

    French modern: 900kg, unstayed rig rolls up, shallow with accomodation. 23 ft of waterline. 200kg waterballast with 200kg lead. EU regs: Cat C





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    Default Re: An offshore capable trailer boat ?

    Interesting ! Thanks Ed.
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    It looks quick, not exactly beautiful but definitely functional.
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    Default Re: An offshore capable trailer boat ?

    If your going that far I’d be adding a Ljungstrom rig

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    Default Re: An offshore capable trailer boat ?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeterSibley View Post
    I find the boat in 759 quite acceptable to look at, big cabins are a phobia of mine.

    Re the rigging, I guess I've watched too many people faffing around rigging bermudians at the ramp.
    The one in 759 does look much better and I also like the hull shape.

    Rick

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterSibley View Post
    I find the boat in 759 quite acceptable to look at, big cabins are a phobia of mine.
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    Re the rigging, I guess I've watched too many people faffing around rigging bermudians at the ramp.
    759 is a Hunter 19, 756 is a Hunter Europa. Both have the same Squib hull and rig, but the Europa has a bigger cabin and a smaller, self draining, cockpit. The 19's cockpit is watertight but the sole is below water level. FWIW I actually prefer the look of the Europa, but both are nice. Both have the Squib hull, keel, rudder and rig.

    The boat in the Shetland to Norway video in post no. 745 is a Europa. More of her here. The singlehanded helmsman doesn't seem to have much trouble going forward over the cabin, and in small boats like this one the side decks are necessarily so narrow that they are more of a trap and a deception:



    and again, in worse weather, here:

    https://youtu.be/0HDabs8SAc4

    but the OSTAR boat, Willing Griffin, whose skipper, the late David Blagden, shrank the cockpit as you envisage, was a 19

    Meet our Squib:

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    Having just done it, stepping the mast is not too hard. The official Squib Class trick is to use a dead dinghy mast.

    Here is a link to the UK Squib Association site explanation of how to deal with raising and lowering the mast, using a seventeen foot length of dead dinghy mast:

    http://www.squibs.co.uk/index.php/ab...ising-the-mast

    This can be done singlehanded. The instructions are for the Squib but they will work for the 19 and the Europa.

    And here is a list of all the boats built by the UK Hunter Boats company; they were second only to Westerly in popularity but much more racing orientated. Few of them are dogs.
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    Default Re: An offshore capable trailer boat ?

    damn, that French "r+" is cool. I definitely don't like that style of cabin top. but that's a very neat boat

    does anyone have a a link to more information on them? my google-fu is not delivering...

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    Lack of side decks is a real problem, in my opinion. I found this when sailing a Triton 24. When heeled significantly, it doesn't make much difference but it becomes a real nuisance for the regular need to go forward when dropping the headsail, mooring, anchoring, berthing etc. I also generally believe there's beauty in function but big, fat cabins just look awful to me.

    Rick

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    The boat in 771 is certainly interesting. Water ballast makes a lot of sense for a trailerable boat. I wonder why the designer drew a windsurfer rig for the mizzen? I don't like the look of it, personally. I also wonder about the wide transom on this boat. I can imagine it rounding up uncontrollably when the gusts hit. Maybe that's another example of Folkboat bias? The unstayed rig makes sense for a trailer sailor.

    Rick

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    Default Re: An offshore capable trailer boat ?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeterSibley View Post










    It looks quick, not exactly beautiful but definitely functional.
    This and the Hunter seem the best suggestions thus far. The French boat with it's lifting keel would be far easier to trailer and launch.
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