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    Thanks John, it even looks acceptable !

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterSibley View Post
    Yes, everything from 4 meter aluminium plus outboard to 45 foot trawlers. I prefer quietness and polluting for pleasure isn't high on my list. Workboats , certainly. Pleasure boats , no.
    Totally with you in a preference for sail, but it seems a bit harsh to call power boats 'polluting' when our sail powered boats are not exactly ecologically sound, and increasingly I see a future of 'quiet' power boats with the rise of electric motors and much improved batteries (which could be charged by renewable power).

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    Another discussion I think Small Boats, but I was quoting a book title. "Polluting for Pleasure". At this stage I think my JIM will suffice for some time.

    That said I can imagine some useful modifications to make her more suitable for long along shore voyages.
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    What makes the most sense, cents, and eco-sense to me is. Use Jim as your normal trailer boat. Then charter a boat for extended cruising.

    Nice rambleing thread though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterSibley View Post
    Another discussion I think Small Boats, but I was quoting a book title. "Polluting for Pleasure". At this stage I think my JIM will suffice for some time.

    That said I can imagine some useful modifications to make her more suitable for long along shore voyages.
    Ooooohhhh... I didn't pick up on the intertextuality. Hadn't heard of that book, think I'll check it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt young View Post
    What makes the most sense, cents, and eco-sense to me is. Use Jim as your normal trailer boat. Then charter a boat for extended cruising.

    Nice rambleing thread though.
    I like building though Matt, the original aim was to discover a design buildable in wood but it has veered off to some rather nice glass designs.
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    After 26 pages, i would say this will be the last one from me, but who knows this thread would have had such legs?



    Didi 29 Retro. https://www.dixdesign.com/29Retrodidi.htm
    Well within your trailer capacity! The 26 would probably be a better fit for a solo sailer, with some thought to raising the mast. Despite the light weight, engineered for off-shore use. I have yet to see a trailer set up for self launch-recovery of an exposed bulb keel though.

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    The Didi 23 keel description...... Two Keel Options

    The standard keel is a vertical dropkeel with a 350kg bulb on the end of the high aspect foil. It is lifted by a tackle system led to a cabintop winch. Fully retracted, the bulb remains below the hull, with a draft of 0,5m. Sailing draft is 1.7m. The bulb can be done in either a simple vertical sided foil section for owner casting or a torpedo shape for professional casting.

    We have a fixed keel option as well. This uses a hollow aluminum casing for the foil, constructed over tubular inner framing and fitted with the same bulb options as the lifting keel. The casing is bolted through the hull bottom to an aluminum support box, which is bolted to the internal structure of the hull.

    Rudder options are a fixed blade or a rudder box with daggerboard blade. Both are transom hung on conventional pintles.

    The cockpit and bridgedeck together are 2.6m long, giving plenty of space for working the boat while racing or socialising or sunning when cruising. The only winches on the boat are a pair of 16:1 self-tailers on the cabintop. They are located where they can be operated from the companionway, the bridgedeck or the weather rail. They are oversized to ease keel handling so sail trimming will be a cinch.

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    From another thread, this looks a lot like a Peter boat.
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    It does, a bit bigger though. Do you know what design that is Phil?
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    Nope

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    Which thread was it on ?
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    Wasnt that Thadds boat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterSibley View Post
    It does, a bit bigger though. Do you know what design that is Phil?

    That is Sally. Canoeyawl's boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skaraborgcraft View Post
    Wasnt that Thadds boat?
    Sea Harmony, a much larger boat than Peter's considering, but an excellent sea boat.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jpatrick View Post
    That is Sally. Canoeyawl's boat.
    Yes, I should have recognised her but haven't seen a photo of Sally from that quarter before.
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    I see Chebacco 25's weigh one ton.



    http://www.chebacco.com/category/chebacco-25/
    Last edited by Edward Pearson; 07-02-2018 at 08:14 AM.

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    Good call Ed. Could probably be done in strip plank also.

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    Lots of waterline too. The builder used the rig from Martha Jane.

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    How about this Brent Swain boat.....no connection with me....
    https://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/62972

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edward Pearson View Post
    I see Chebacco 25's weigh one ton.



    http://www.chebacco.com/category/chebacco-25/
    That mizzen would handy if you have a runny nose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Y View Post
    That mizzen would handy if you have a runny nose.
    or keeping you head to wind at anchor.
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    I wish they tilted the outboard

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    Maybe they were motor sailing.

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    I have no idea what its weight is but there seems to me that the St Valery by Bolger I think my mammories not what it once was but I think Im right... anyways!!! that would be one fine offshore capable wee boat of trailerable proportions and right work boat type too by gar an jimminy me boyoh... love that luggar design... mmmm might need to gets someone whos into figures and such alchemy and wizardy to figure out changing that damned centreboard to a fixed keel setup
    But yep St Valery indeed
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    I'm sure this has been posted previously on this thread, but I haven't looked at it in a while. I have a blow up of the study plan on the wall above my workbenches. There is a plan with fasteners schedule and the whole nine yards for building in either strip-planked in wood or FG, and IIRC an elementary school teacher in southern California built one, retired, and sailed it as far as Tahiti, or maybe Hawaii. That was back in the first days of my searching the internet for info about building my own boat. Before I found the WBF.

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    This thread really illuminates the process of choosing a design and has traveled a long way since my post #78. In the interim I stumbled across this Alden for sale.

    https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/199...g#.W1yFcLplCf0

    It looks awfully close to THUMBCAP save a few details. She’s a Fenwick Williams design and described as a smaller sister to his much beloved 24’ gaff yawl. There’s a lot to like.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiley Baggins View Post
    You might consider Alden’s Design No. 297, THUMBCAP. She is a small keelboat with the following dimensions-

    LOA: 21’ plus a boomkin
    LWL: 18’5”
    Beam: 6’6”
    Draft: 2’9”
    SA: 236 ft^2 Yawl rigged with a gunter main
    Disp.: 4000 lbs

    I doubt she'd be at her best to windward, but she's pretty and looks handy and seaworthy. The latter even more so with a few detail changes. Hopefully someone here can post [additional] images from the Carrick/Henderson book.

    Alden Design Listing: http://www.aldendesigns.com/99years/...php?ID=428&s=1

    Photo: http://www.aldendesigns.com/99years/...7_Thumbcap.jpg

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    +1^


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    This is my version of an offshore capable trailer sailer, a William Atkin Perigee with cockpit eliminated and cabin extended. With rigging she will be around 1.3 tons, so would trailer very comfortably on a 2 ton trailer (in Oz 2 tons is the upper limit for normal cars and simple trailers, over that they need fancy things like electric brakes). I have seen much bigger boats trailered around here, but not my cup of tea.

    perigee_july_2018.jpg

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    ^ How would you launch that? My hunting around the area at different ramps showed up different lengths and ramp angle, meaning you might launch a deep draft from one ramp, but not another. After a crane incident, i prefer to self launch and recover, which does mean a certain amount of compromise.
    That reminds me of a wee Hillyard 2 tonner.


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    Now there's a handsome we boat !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Small boats rock View Post
    This is my version of an offshore capable trailer sailer, a William Atkin Perigee with cockpit eliminated and cabin extended. With rigging she will be around 1.3 tons, so would trailer very comfortably on a 2 ton trailer (in Oz 2 tons is the upper limit for normal cars and simple trailers, over that they need fancy things like electric brakes). I have seen much bigger boats trailered around here, but not my cup of tea.

    perigee_july_2018.jpg
    An interesting proposition....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterSibley View Post
    Now there's a handsome we boat !
    I owned one for about 4 hours, until some other bloke came along and offered me way more than i paid for it! I was actually after a Finnesse 21, which was a better suited to shallow creeks.



    They can often come up at very fair prices in the UK, but for regular towing and a bit less heft, i would "probably" be looking at a boat already mentioned, Paul Fishers Rona Yawl.



    This thread has legs.......

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