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    Nay brother, not a first. Not double blind compatible, but the evidence is everywhere to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by downthecreek View Post
    Go read Hawking

    http://www.hawking.org.uk/the-beginning-of-time.html

    Still no conclusion.

    http://www.newsweek.com/big-bang-the...roposal-705497

    Still not clear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ishmael View Post
    Nay brother, not a first. Not double blind compatible, but the evidence is everywhere to see.
    I suspect we have different standards as to what constitutes evidence.

    Quote Originally Posted by ishmael View Post
    Do you like sailing? An open invitation to sail in Maine this summer.
    I do, I love Maine, and I sincerely appreciate your gracious invitation, but I'm afraid I am not returning to the land of my birth for the foreseeable future. It's a bit of a bummer, actually.

    What are you doing about it?




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    I remember seeing Hawking rolling along the sidewalk at Caltech surrounded by a half dozen or more students. We didn't speak. I was too far away. Still, I thought it a delightful moment for me even if it was not a moment at all for him.

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    We just watched The Theory of Everything, not a single car crash or explosion of any kind.

    Could it be said that he was saved by socialized medicine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osborne Russell View Post
    Could it be said that he was saved by socialized medicine?
    It certainly could. When the American right was spreading fake news about socialized medicine the Business Insider announced that "Hawking would have died if he had lived in England". When that was corrected, it was "but he is a celebrity - they would have paid anything...

    Hawking was unknown student studying for his Phd when he was diagnosed. He himself confirmed that he was treated all through his life by Addenbrookes Hospital in Cambridge. A very fine NHS hospital.
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    Awww, c'mon, dtc; that doesn't fit the narrative - you must be wrong! <insert cynicism emoji here>
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    Quote Originally Posted by downthecreek View Post
    It certainly could. When the American right was spreading fake news about socialized medicine the Business Insider announced that "Hawking would have died if he had lived in England". When that was corrected, it was "but he is a celebrity - they would have paid anything...

    Hawking was unknown student studying for his Phd when he was diagnosed. He himself confirmed that he was treated all through his life by Addenbrookes Hospital in Cambridge. A very fine NHS hospital.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osborne Russell View Post
    We just watched The Theory of Everything, not a single car crash or explosion of any kind.

    Could it be said that he was saved by socialized medicine?
    Most definitely and was vocal in his support of the NHS.
    The death of the Labour-supporting Stephen Hawking robs campaigners against “backdoor privatisation” of the NHS of their most powerful supporter.
    The world-renowned and much-loved physicist was embroiled in a fierce legal battle with Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt over a shake-up of the health service he had condemned.
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a8255026.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rum_Pirate View Post
    The US left is to the right of our centre. But then you knew that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osborne Russell View Post
    Could it be said that he was saved by socialized medicine?
    From what I understand, the doctors are somewhat baffled by his longevity. They think he has some rare form of the disease. No one thought he could live this long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWSmith View Post
    From what I understand, the doctors are somewhat baffled by his longevity. They think he has some rare form of the disease. No one thought he could live this long.
    Long life or short, going to need special care. By someone who gives a S, know what I mean? Like, all of society. You may find someone who claims to be able to do it at a profit . . . given the proper political structure. Seems a curious avenue to choose given the nature of the situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CWSmith View Post
    From what I understand, the doctors are somewhat baffled by his longevity. They think he has some rare form of the disease. No one thought he could live this long.
    Yes, he was an exceptional case and much studied because of it. Oddly enough, I knew one other such, a woodworker, whiskey drinker, folk music aficionado, and boon companion by the name of Dave Gray. He too lived to a ripe old age with ALS, and with far fewer effects than Mr Hawking, too.

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    A great mind, despite his illness. A great man, because of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CK 17 View Post
    Now, THAT's a picture!!

    Well done!

    Grosvenor Square, the rather well known demonstration outside the US Embassy, and its fifty years on Saturday since that picture was taken. I am identifying the picture from Vanessa Redgrave's coat. I think the chap in the Lenin cap behind Vanessa Redgrave is Bernie Grant, during his Socislist Workers Party phase, and sadly I don’t think the chap next to him is the young Peter Mandelson, as he would have been 15 (I was 16).

    He was expecting to die within a few months, when that picture was taken. But he went to the trouble of getting to London and taking part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osborne Russell View Post
    Long life or short, going to need special care. By someone who gives a S, know what I mean? Like, all of society. You may find someone who claims to be able to do it at a profit . . . given the proper political structure. Seems a curious avenue to choose given the nature of the situation.
    I know exactly what you mean. The US health care is based on the assumption "It won't happen to me." It will. We have become an obscenely selfish society with "I got mine" being the overarching value. We will pay dearly for this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmd View Post
    Awww, c'mon, dtc; that doesn't fit the narrative - you must be wrong! <insert cynicism emoji here>
    Of course I am. I just made it up

    Misinformation and delusions about "socialized" health care (for which there are many different models) are among the many sad misconceptions about the rest of the world in general that seem to prevail in the home of the brave and the land of the free. The rest of us are, of course, enslaved cowards......(it gets old...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Orca View Post
    Yes, he was an exceptional case and much studied because of it. Oddly enough, I knew one other such, a woodworker, whiskey drinker, folk music aficionado, and boon companion by the name of Dave Gray. He too lived to a ripe old age with ALS, and with far fewer effects than Mr Hawking, too.
    I knew someone too - a fellow director of the small company I helped to found. But sadly, she died within three years of diagnosis. A truly awful illness and a horrible death.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rum_Pirate View Post
    Yes, really. Unless it was the left that was campaigning against changing the health care system.

    I emailed them when I saw that ridiculous article. Next time I looked they had removed the worst of the claim and printed, in tiny letters at the bottom of the page "this content of this article was not intended to imply that Stephen Hawking did not live in England" (!!!)

    Rotten journalism or rotten morals? A bit of both, I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by downthecreek View Post
    I knew someone too - a fellow director of the small company I helped to found. But sadly, she died within three years of diagnosis. A truly awful illness and a horrible death.
    My longtime boss and mentor died of ALS in about the same span of time. One of the first areas of motor functionality she lost was her ability to speak and swallow. Horrible is right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Orca View Post
    My longtime boss and mentor died of ALS in about the same span of time. One of the first areas of motor functionality she lost was her ability to speak and swallow. Horrible is right.
    I knew a fellow with ALS and his younger employees were all trained in what to do if he started choking. It's an awful thing to contemplate.

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    The thread has sidetracked a bit, but I’m still in mourning. We lost a giant today.

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    When people ask me if a god created the universe, I tell them that the question itself makes no sense. Time didn’t exist before the big bang, so there is no time for god to make the universe in. It’s like asking directions to the edge of the earth; The Earth is a sphere; it doesn’t have an edge; so looking for it is a futile exercise. We are each free to believe what we want, and it’s my view that the simplest explanation is; there is no god. No one created our universe,and no one directs our fate. This leads me to a profound realization; There is probably no heaven, and no afterlife either. We have this one life to appreciate the grand design of the universe, and for that I am extremely gratef


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    Way out, Daddy-O

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbys View Post
    When people ask me if a god created the universe, I tell them that the question itself makes no sense. Time didn’t exist before the big bang, so there is no time for god to make the universe in. It’s like asking directions to the edge of the earth; The Earth is a sphere; it doesn’t have an edge; so looking for it is a futile exercise. We are each free to believe what we want, and it’s my view that the simplest explanation is; there is no god. No one created our universe,and no one directs our fate. This leads me to a profound realization; There is probably no heaven, and no afterlife either. We have this one life to appreciate the grand design of the universe, and for that I am extremely gratef
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    One thing I remain with in this life is that there is much I don't have a handle on. There are strange happenings that are inexplicable with reason in its current place of residence. Reason is a fine and necessary tool, but it has mounted a throne it isn't worthy of.

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    God of the gaps Ish, diminishing as we speak but still with some.

    On Hawking now. I'd like to see some crowd funding to send his remains on the way to the stars and beyond.
    And maybe Musk could put his wheelchair into permanent orbit……….

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peerie Maa View Post
    A Scalar field, which is de-Sitters matter-less solution to Einstein's field equations.
    Are there any others out there reading that and saying EH?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chippie View Post
    Are there any others out there reading that and saying EH?
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    Hope for the best, but plan for the worst.

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    'The Unconstrained Mind'

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    The British physicist's work may have been esoteric, but his life helped shape how we see the world.
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    The definition of stupid has got to be the belief that more guns will negate the bloodshed done with guns.

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