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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeG View Post
    That phrase gets used a lot but it’s a hell of an admission what the POTUS is. Only problem is that all those adults are there to appease a child. Maybe someday Congress will come together and act in the nations interests by providing real oversight on the Executive, if not neutralize it, but I don’t see it happening yet.
    You mean possibly after November 2018/January 2019 when they are seated? We can hope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garret View Post
    You mean possibly after November 2018/January 2019 when they are seated? We can hope.
    Done hoping. I’m sending money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Hoppe View Post
    The writing is on the wall... Michael Pompeo is going to run for President 2020.
    Oh, jeebus! We all know Pompeo has received more money from the Koch brothers than any other politician, right? And that it looks like we will have a Climate Change Denier as our Secretary Of State.
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    The foxes are definitely in the hen house.
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    Sean Spicer accidentally tells the truth --

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/1-typo-ma...160847137.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by StevenBauer View Post
    Oh, jeebus! We all know Pompeo has received more money from the Koch brothers than any other politician, right? And that it looks like we will have a Climate Change Denier as our Secretary Of State.
    Imagine the horror scenario if Trump and Pence get bounced, Ryan turns down the honor and Pompeo get the job... it is not out of the realm of possibilities. Koch Brothers could own the White House by proxy. 12 years of White House climate denying could ensue.
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    Tillerson did what Trump wanted in crippling the State Dept but his real failing for Trump was a lack of obsequiousness, er loyalty. It’s kind of a saving grace that Trump is so incompetant because his core values could make one scary dictatorship.

    worthwhile article:


    https://amp.thedailybeast.com/state-...mpression=true

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    It's amazing how many times in a day, that all I can say, is WTF??? !

    The New Deputy Sec of State is an x Fox and Friends anchor.


    Trump installs former ‘Fox and Friends’ host as under secretary of state

    Heather Nauert will replace Steve Goldstein, who contradicted the White House's account of Tillerson's firing.


    LUKE BARNESMAR 13, 2018, 6:13 PM
    A State Department spokeswoman and former Fox and Friends co-host will replace a top aide to former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson who contradicted the official account of how Tillerson was fired Tuesday.

    Steve Goldstein, former under secretary of public affairs, said that Tillerson found out about his firing on Tuesday morning after reading a tweet from President Donald Trump. The White House said that chief of staff John Kelly had previously told Tillerson he would be replaced. Goldstein, who had only been at his post since December, was fired on Tuesday as well.

    The White House then confirmed State Department spokeswoman Heather Nauert as acting under secretary for public diplomacy, with a White House official telling Axios, “Heather is the only one at State we trust.”
    Nauert joined the State Department in April 2017 and has no previous diplomatic experience. When asked in February about the specifics of what the State Department was doing to end the violence in Syria, she responded, “I don’t know what some of you expect us to do.”

    Prior to her job at State, Nauert was an anchor at Fox and Friends for five years, and previously worked at the New York Fox affiliate Fox 5 for most of her career.

    Trump’s affection for Fox and Friends is well-known. Fox anchors, along with Trump International and adviser accounts, represent the bulk of the accounts the president follows on Twitter. A researcher at the University of Chicago, who plotted the time of day that Trump tweets, found an extremely dense band between 6 a.m. and 9 a.m., precisely when Fox and Friends is on the air. After a U.S. Navy sailor pleaded for an appeal of his national security felony conviction on Fox and Friends, Trump pardoned him days later.

    Goldstein’s firing and Nauert’s promotion was part of a day of upheaval in the Trump administration. Earlier on Tuesday, Trump’s longtime personal aide, John McEntee, was fired and escorted from the White House without even getting the chance to collect his belongings. It had emerged that he was under investigation by the Department for Homeland Security for “serious financial crimes” — although DHS declined to elaborate on the exact nature of those potential crimes.

    In his farewell speech, Tillerson also notably failed to thank Trump, but he did mention Russian interference in the 2016 election.

    “Much work remains to respond to the troubling behavior and actions on the part of the Russian government,” Tillerson said. “[Russia could face] greater isolation on their part, a situation which is not in anyone’s interest.”



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    Pompeo might be an improvement for the State Dept. but it looks like SecDef Mattis understands diplomacy better than Pompeo.

    https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-...-hawks-winning

    “I don’t know if it’s a victory by the über-hawks, but it reflects a mind-set about how Trump sees the world. He relies on generals,” Boucher told me. “He’s looking for people who see every problem as a threat that needs to be dealt with by military force, rather than an issue that can be countered through diplomacy. There’s an over-all failure by this Administration to understand what diplomacy can do for the country—and the world.”
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    The Pompeo appointment faces criticism, however, because it appears to consolidate the hold hawks have on the White House. “Trump is methodically destroying the moderate camp in his Administration and moving steadily crazy-hard right,” Joseph Cirincione, the president of Ploughshares Fund, an N.G.O. dedicated to containing the spread of nuclear weapons, told me. “Today’s firing and the crude, insulting way that he did it weakens the traditional conservative camp, the State Department, and American credibility. It’s almost as if someone is paying Trump to do it.”

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    I wonder if Tillerson will now come out and say publicly that "Trump is a moron."?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeG View Post
    "It’s almost as if someone is paying Trump to do it.”
    Almost
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    Quote Originally Posted by peb View Post
    Hoping Tillerson decides to challenge Trump for the 2020 GOP nomination. You got to admit, that would be fun to watch.
    Except Tillerson is hardly an angel or a team player. His comments about Trump, should he own up to them, might stand for him but he gutted the State Department and found himself without allies anywhere in town. After all, his team was the State Department, which he let down to the maximum extent possible.

    Coming out in the open with truthful statements about Trump now is akin to sour grapes. Not one of Trump's appointed people have the backbone of a banana. Draining the swamp one new guy (or as in the case, three) at a time.
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    ripe banana

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    Rotten banana.

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    Bye bye Rex. You sucked, but nobody should ever think it can't get worse, what with your former boss in charge. Now go away and nurse your humiliation. Maybe write a book.
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    Tillerson is 'praying for America'. I wonder if he's 'thoughting' also...

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    So the one guy who actually told the truth regarding his firing, Goldstein, was fired because he told the truth. No pretense. The WH even admitted that's why they fired him.

    BTW, there are currently no Under Secretaries of State appointed and working.
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