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    Default Re: If u would not trust a teacher with a GUN, Why would you trust them with a Child?

    Betsy DeVos has been named head of a federal committee to study this subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Wilson View Post
    This is a subset of 'more guns will make us safer'. It is utter and complete bullsh!t, disproved by the evidence of every other civilized country on the planet.
    When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Sorry to say that the gun lobby and its minions have become a one trick pony. It seems to be ingrained and immune to data, proof, practicality or reason. There is even a move afoot by gun supporters in Florida to have the armed teacher/guards partner with the NRA for instruction. Of course, the NRA was founded on gun safety and instructions in proper use of firearms but money got in the way, as it always does.

    Perhaps someone will notice the fox sneaking into the hen house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan McCosh View Post
    Betsy DeVos has been named head of a federal committee to study this subject.
    Heard her interview last night and she did not provide a single answer to any of the questions. Gist was, trust us to do the right thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan McCosh View Post
    Betsy DeVos has been named head of a federal committee to study this subject.
    Parkland student responds

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k9MZG4lGBCc

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    Default Re: If u would not trust a teacher with a GUN, Why would you trust them with a Child?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan McCosh View Post
    Betsy DeVos has been named head of a federal committee to study this subject.
    She's a puppet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Lathrop View Post
    Heard her interview last night and she did not provide a single answer to any of the questions. Gist was, trust us to do the right thing.
    Because she has not yet been told what to say.

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    Daniel, in case you missed it, I posted a realistic look at arming teachers last week. If you didn't read it, you should. If you did read it, you became aware of the realities. By the tone of this post, you have ignored reality, and invented one of your own. Or you are bored and trolling. Which I suspect is the case, as I have observed previously.

    To everyone else, seriously, lets just stop feeding this guy. If Daniel isn't just trolling us, his version of reality and that of the rest of us, are two very different things. He is beyond help, and has no intention of changing his mentality. If he is a troll, then its best to stop feeding him.

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    Default Re: If u would not trust a teacher with a GUN, Why would you trust them with a Child?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan McCosh View Post
    Betsy DeVos has been named head of a federal committee to study this subject.
    It is hard to think of a more incompetent person to be named a cabinet secretary, than DeVos.....

    ....but the other cabinet secretaries come damn close.
    "Reason and facts are sacrificed to opinion and myth. Demonstrable falsehoods are circulated and recycled as fact. Narrow minded opinion refuses to be subjected to thought and analysis. Too many now subject events to a prefabricated set of interpretations, usually provided by a biased media source. The myth is more comfortable than the often difficult search for truth."







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    We need to go further. All schools should be reinforced against rocket and mortar attacks. Bunkers should be by every door and each student should be subjected to a strip search. K-9 units should roam the school grounds.

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    Default Re: If u would not trust a teacher with a GUN, Why would you trust them with a Child?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Noyes
    you'll still see the thread titles... this one really says it all in the title.
    That it does... that it does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Noyes View Post
    Like we said,

    If a teacher can not be trusted with the simple task of carrying a stupid dumb firearm why would any one trust that person with the vitally important task of teaching thousands of our nations children important information and life lessons?
    Perhaps Daniel and a few others who support this really stupid idea should talk to infantry platoon leaders who lead HIGHLY TRAINED PROFESSIONAL SOLDIERS into contact with an armed and dedicated enemy in a battle zone. Perhaps Daniel thinks it is easy to actually shoot other humans, but it is not and that is rarely known until the sh*ite hits the fan. Many of these highly trained professionals don't even fire their weapons and must be forced to do so. Reasons for their inaction vary but the result is the same. As Daniel said, the simple task of carrying a stupid firearm is an easy one. But the real situation is, the devil is in the details.
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    Default Re: If u would not trust a teacher with a GUN, Why would you trust them with a Child?

    the foundation of this argument is all wrong. it's not arming teachers, it's about not DISarming them. no one is going to hand a teacher a gun on their way into school every morning. no one is going to assign weapons to take home. no one is going to mandate hours at the range.

    with all that said, i don't really want armed teachers. and all of you that also don't want armed teachers should be glad this topic is up for debate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Lathrop View Post
    Perhaps Daniel and a few others who support this really stupid idea should talk to infantry platoon leaders who lead HIGHLY TRAINED PROFESSIONAL SOLDIERS into contact with an armed and dedicated enemy in a battle zone. Perhaps Daniel thinks it is easy to actually shoot other humans, but it is not and that is rarely known until the sh*ite hits the fan. Many of these highly trained professionals don't even fire their weapons and must be forced to do so. Reasons for their inaction vary but the result is the same. As Daniel said, the simple task of carrying a stupid firearm is an easy one. But the real situation is, the devil is in the details.
    Sure, he made it part way there talkimg about realistic violent training programs then went off talking about having blanks in the gun. Totally disconnected from his own argument.

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    Default Re: If u would not trust a teacher with a GUN, Why would you trust them with a Child?

    This message is hidden because Daniel Noyes is on your ignore list.

    Yep, been that way for about two years now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanMc View Post
    the foundation of this argument is all wrong. it's not arming teachers, it's about not DISarming them. no one is going to hand a teacher a gun on their way into school every morning. no one is going to assign weapons to take home. no one is going to mandate hours at the range.

    with all that said, i don't really want armed teachers. and all of you that also don't want armed teachers should be glad this topic is up for debate.
    What about those teachers who don't and won't own guns? Are they to be forced to own and carry ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynard38 View Post
    You mean like the one that shot up the veterans home?

    Plus doesn’t a teacher require a college degree? Maybe even post graduate degrees?
    Other than the officers I don’t know if a large percentage of “trained killers” have the necessary credentials.
    Of course we could just lower the requirements for a teaching certificate. I bet the trump fans would like that idea.
    Most of the folks I know could only afford the education after the infantry part, and most of them wanted a job that payed better money.
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    So the solution to the over-proliferation of firearms is...more firearms?

    The NRA has become a lobbying group for the gun manufacturers, so I understand why they would support this measure, but why would an ostensibly rational person do so?

    It boggles the mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralphie Boy View Post
    So the solution to the over-proliferation of firearms is...more firearms?

    The NRA has become a lobbying group for the gun manufacturers, so I understand why they would support this measure, but why would an ostensibly rational person do so?

    It boggles the mind.

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    Default Re: If u would not trust a teacher with a GUN, Why would you trust them with a Child?

    Think about this for a second:
    If u would not trust a teacher with a GUN, Why would you trust them with a Child?
    Then change a word:

    If u would not trust a parent with a GUN, Why would you trust them with a Child?
    So I guess Daniel is really saying that any parent without a gun is not a good parent.

    How odd...
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