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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazy Jack View Post
    why yes, yes it was - upside down on horses under a silver/brown polytarp on a porch out in the sun, in the summer and winter, in New England. But it has continued to get worse sitting right side up inside a metal aircraft hangar.

    If others are filling 17 and 18 foot canoes with under a gallon of filler, I will assume I applied too much or that my canvas was heavier than most others have been using.
    Don't know, doubtful anyone has an answer, where is said canoe now do you still have it?

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    Update... This is a dry run not quite ready to start tacking and stapling, going to let her hang a few days, put some weight and or sticks down from the ceiling.
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    Glad you know Rollin. What's the design of the two canoes you pictured, Denise?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce Brown View Post
    Glad you know Rollin. What's the design of the two canoes you pictured, Denise?
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    The Big Blue Canoe is an 18 foot Old Town HW the little blue Canoe, is my own design 15'2" x 30" about 18 years old it took 3 years to design and build the Form.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeniseO30 View Post
    The Big Blue Canoe is an 18 foot Old Town HW the little blue Canoe, is my own design 15'2" x 30" about 18 years old it took 3 years to design and build the Form.
    Sigh! Stupid canvas pliers! Every muscle in my body aches already and I haven't even started filling the canvas
    We used to have these but I don't want to use them because they tend to tear the canvas. https://www.homedepot.com/p/TEKTON-8...FQufyAodn9kCqQ
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    And so on...
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    Seems a shame to hide those pretty copper tacks under muck & stem bands
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    Upholstery done!! Going to fill the weave of the canvas with traditional filler over the next few days and while that cures, I'll re-finish the out-rails and finish the seats,
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    This adaptation works well. No tearing, no damage to canoe, and a little extra leverage. 2E5BD0E7-1046-40AC-B73C-D282B65E55A2.jpg
    "Wherever there is a channel for water, there is a road for the canoe. " - Thoreau

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fitz View Post
    This adaptation works well. No tearing, no damage to canoe, and a little extra leverage. 2E5BD0E7-1046-40AC-B73C-D282B65E55A2.jpg
    Now he shows me lol
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    As expected, I have filler left over anybody in my area want it? it's free. looks like about a quart. Weave was filled by the 2nd go around. (Taking a break from rubbing)
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    One of the out-rails was ready to break because of a misplaced drill hole from when we built the boat. So, along with scraping and sanding off all the old varnish, I decided to put a splice in and try to keep it from breaking so I would not have a joint showing on the top of the out rail. This also allows the rail to stay the original length with original screw hole locations instead of making a whole new one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeniseO30 View Post
    One of the out-rails was ready to break because of a misplaced drill hole from when we built the boat. So, along with scraping and sanding off all the old varnish, I decided to put a splice in and try to keep it from breaking so I would not have a joint showing on the top of the out rail. This also allows the rail to stay the original length with original screw hole locations instead of making a whole new one.
    Few weeks more as the filler cures....
    Going with Rust-Oleum "almond" this time,.
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    Just scanned a few from actual photos when we were building her. Still hard to see the book matched bottom planking.
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    Looking nice.

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    Thank you Hugh!
    Flipped her over so I can start putting er back together!

    Canvas filler is starting to make dust when sanding but it still needs to cure a few more weeks. Trimming the edges of the canvas so it is .50" below the rail and it doesn't show from under the out rail, is tricky. And it can shrink afterwards and cause a major problem!
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    Putting a rail back on carefully and oh so nervously, even using new screws!
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    And..... Fitting / retrofitting outer stems I love them but sometimes wonder if they're worth the trouble which they probably aren't, but they look so cool on a canoe!
    Because this canoe does not have an outside River keel the bottom of the outer stem will feather edge about where the inner stem ends. Like the old ones.
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    Very pretty! Canoes certainly are boats, but somehow there construction seems like such a different craft (skill set).

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    Quote Originally Posted by nedL View Post
    Very pretty! Canoes certainly are boats, but somehow there construction seems like such a different craft (skill set).
    Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeniseO30 View Post
    Thanks!
    Out rail number 2 going on!
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    Converging lines. Not as tight as when she was built 18 years ago and with the new outer stem it's acceptable, if I ever retro fit/make outer stems for a boat again someone please shoot me dead!

    It's not difficult when you're making inner stems just bend at the same time
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeniseO30 View Post
    if I ever retro fit/make outer stems for a boat again someone please shoot me dead!
    Oh, but outside stems look so very nice ---

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    Worth the effort, no?

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    And nice work, by the way!

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    Thanks Greg! Yes I do like them! When building a boat they are very easy to make, you just bend them with the inner stem.

    I made new ones out of cherry laminate that's, where the fun began lol
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    Oh! that's how you do that!
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    Not my finest hours, on these outside stems... In this case I have to say I am thankful for latex-based waterproof caulking and fillers.

    At this juncture I believe I'm ready to paint the filled canvas, for final sanding the woodwork, decks and outer stems!
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    Nice work!

    I traded a bottle of wine for a canoe once, a wood-canvas 14 footer that was resting on a neighbor's firewood stack. I restored the rotten bits, but then unfortunately I glassed it. It's very serviceable that way of course, but I wish I'd canvassed it.

    Denise, do you go on trips in Canada, into the North?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Hadfield View Post
    Nice work!

    I traded a bottle of wine for a canoe once, a wood-canvas 14 footer that was resting on a neighbor's firewood stack. I restored the rotten bits, but then unfortunately I glassed it. It's very serviceable that way of course, but I wish I'd canvassed it.

    Denise, do you go on trips in Canada, into the North?

    Dave
    Thank you! My son daughter and I used to do the Adirondacks and the farthest north I've done a trip is Jackman Maine with my sister, we did the Bow trip on the Moose River but as I've gotten older everything seems to be too far away.
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    First coat! "Almond" is the color
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    Well not happy with the outer stems it's my own fault but they look okay at first glance. (Note to self: always make outer stems when you make the inner stems and benf them over the form together 2nd note: hollow out a shallow half round before the outer stem is bent )
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeniseO30 View Post
    Well not happy with the outer stems it's my own fault but they look okay at first glance. (Note to self: always make outer stems when you make the inner stems and bend them over the form together. 2nd note: hollow out a shallow half round before the outer stem is bent )
    Little bit of varnish looking good just don't look too close LOL
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    Let the paint dry about a week flipped her upright!
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    I have almost a quart Container full of sanding dust LOL. Now it's time for the hand sanding and start putting some finish on the wood...

    I didn't realize it when I picked the Almond colored paint that it would be almost the exact same shade as the in rails which are made of AYC. She's not going to live outdoors so I am NOT using traditional varnish.

    Remember that repair I made in the a outrail? that would be the last picture
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    Waiting for the last coat of finish to dry overnight seems like a long wait!
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