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    no matter how fervently antigun one is, one must admit that plain old cross country skiing pales in comparison to the biathlon

    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    no matter how fervently antigun one is, one must admit that plain old cross country skiing pales in comparison to the biathlon

    It would be more interesting if the participants had to do their shooting while taking fire from the other contestants. Might be a little messy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leikec View Post
    It would be more interesting if the participants had to do their shooting while taking fire from the other contestants. Might be a little messy.
    Fin's have a history in that sort of thing, made a mess of the Russians.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    no matter how fervently antigun one is, one must admit that plain old cross country skiing pales in comparison to the biathlon

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    I think figure skating would be more watchable if they stopped and shot off a few rounds..

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    For a mere 4k you can have a race ready gun, not sure if that includes the fortner mod though

    http://www.altiusguns.com/product.php?product_id=21016

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    Another version of biathlon

    Archery Biathlon 01.jpg

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    Here's my pick of 'race guns', a starting cannon……….

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    Quote Originally Posted by leikec View Post
    It would be more interesting if the participants had to do their shooting while taking fire from the other contestants. Might be a little messy.
    If everyone had to use a flintlock, it would be pretty interesting too.

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    I have never been anti gun.
    I was a gun owner/hunter in my youth.
    I no longer own guns or hunt.
    I am quite happy for anyone, certified sane, to own an appropriate type of gun for hunting.
    If you want military style guns then join a "well trained militia" as the 2nd amendment requires, or forfeit them.
    Of course, this means at least one weekend/month in camp and at least once a year spent at two week training camps.
    I think this would very quickly reduce the desire to own this style of weapon.
    As for the Biathlon, these are usually run by properly organised Clubs, as are pistol, sharpshooting,clay target/skeet clubs so no problem.
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    Robbie, for the most part I agree! I still like shooting skeet, have nothing against hunting although others do. One issue, the key word you use is "sane" what's meant by sane. Second, how many gun owners need the basics vs. owning any number of guns for no reason? Training camps, what training camps? Who pays for them? That's enough here!

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    While I myself do not own, nor ever have owned, a gun. I have no issues with people having them. I do feel that if I need to prove I know how to handle a vehicle to get a license to use it, so should gun owners. I do have an issue with people owning arsenals. I know of at least one person with over 700 guns in his house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    Here's my pick of 'race guns', a starting cannon……….
    I made one of those, a working version at half inch bore in shop class at school, a couple of us made up some gunpowder in the chemistry lab, we fired half inch ball bearings with the thing. Got me detention for a week!
    I guess these days that would cost anyone doing it an expulsion. One less learning experience and one less adventure. Sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    no matter how fervently antigun one is, one must admit that plain old cross country skiing pales in comparison to the biathlon.
    Perhaps, from the perspective of an overstuffed sofa in front of a huge-screen TV (with a beer and a bag of crisps). But I've covered thousands of miles on cross-country skis with great pleasure, and honestly did not miss the chance to stop and shoot at things. Skiing with a rifle is, frankly, a pain in the gronicles.

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    a biathalon with throwing knives would be cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeG View Post
    a biathalon with throwing knives would be cool.
    Or a rowing competition, with harpoons.

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    ^ Or a hammer throw. With the skies on.
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    what a bunch of frauds
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillip Allen View Post
    what a bunch of frauds
    Fake bullets?
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    fake snow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by john welsford View Post
    I made one of those, a working version at half inch bore in shop class at school, a couple of us made up some gunpowder in the chemistry lab, we fired half inch ball bearings with the thing. Got me detention for a week!
    I guess these days that would cost anyone doing it an expulsion. One less learning experience and one less adventure. Sad.

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    I did too, John. 50 cal. bore. Then someone photographed me as I lit off the touch-hole at night. Jezzus Web! It's a wonder that me and my buddies weren't blinded, much less killed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chip-skiff View Post
    Or a rowing competition, with harpoons.

    Combine those with this:

    Olympias_01.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chip-skiff View Post
    Or a rowing competition, with harpoons.

    Is this pic from a real race? If I were the coach of the white boat (in particular) I'd be reaming 'em a new one. The difference in body position, oar position & exit from the water is abysmal. The 2nd from the top yellow boat ain't nuthin' to write home about either.
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    More fun if they were shooting .45-70 Sharps instead of .22 long rifle
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    How about a 10K Xcountry race where you ski a kilometer, then you must stop and solve an equation.
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    And here I thought we were going to talk about hot glue guns.
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    More fun if they were shooting .45-70 Sharps instead of .22 long rifle
    I have a .45-70 Sharps (about 12 lbs.) and still own about eight pairs of cross-country racing skis, but I'm not sure I want to mix them. These days, I get tired just watching the races on TV. Especially with black powder cartridges though, the sound would add a whole new dimension to the sport, and maybe even some avalanche danger for an extra challenge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.V. Airlie View Post
    Robbie, for the most part I agree! I still like shooting skeet, have nothing against hunting although others do. One issue, the key word you use is "sane" what's meant by sane. Second, how many gun owners need the basics vs. owning any number of guns for no reason? Training camps, what training camps? Who pays for them? That's enough here!
    Airlie, I used the word sane to really mean someone who passes an appropriate background check as to suitability to own a gun.
    Also, you mention gun owners having no reason to own the gun.
    If you state you want a gun for hunting, then prove it....show your hunting licence/permit you buy each year.
    Apart from pest control by Farmers, a hunter would be expected to bring back and eat whatever he hunted.
    Training camps: a well trained militia would in my opinion be expected to attend training camps run by either: National Guard, Army, Navy, AirForce or Marines.
    These camps would have costs associated with them paid for by Government, but the upside of this is the "Well Trained Militia" you can transfer to regular service should The USA need extra personal in their many wars. Another reason I think that these people would decide they really didn't need that military weapon after all.
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    Military weapons. I’m gonna go out on a limb and say: you’ve never held a military weapon in your hands in your life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdh View Post
    Military weapons. I’m gonna go out on a limb and say: you’ve never held a military weapon in your hands in your life.
    You talkin to me ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Noyes View Post
    Fin's have a history in that sort of thing, made a mess of the Russians.

    Bloody hell, Daniel and I agree on something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garret View Post
    Is this pic from a real race? If I were the coach of the white boat (in particular) I'd be reaming 'em a new one. The difference in body position, oar position & exit from the water is abysmal. The 2nd from the top yellow boat ain't nuthin' to write home about either.
    but the white boat is winning
    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WX View Post
    Bloody hell, Daniel and I agree on something.
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    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chip-skiff View Post
    Or a rowing competition, with harpoons.

    Exists
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    "...but the white boat is winning"

    No, it's not. The yellow boat third from the top is winning. Look at the position of the bows relative to the course markers, Paul.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    but the white boat is winning
    Nope - it's 2nd. Third yellow from the top is in the lead. Still sloppy though.

    ETA: The man from NS beat me to it I see.
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