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    How about the scrambler? Did you call on that one?

    I ordered the shifter for the Nighthawk. Lots more Nighthawk stuff there than last time I looked a few years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StevenBauer View Post
    How about the scrambler? Did you call on that one?.
    Didn't yet. Hear tell they vibrate. Awrfull handsome, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twodot View Post
    I rode one from Montana to Portland, Oregon in one day, 500 miles, to see the Dead, July 1982. I told the story before, but that is true for all of my stories, I was so spaced out from the vibration and Columbia gorge winds that by Portland I stopped to get gas, looked at the pump and it said pay first inside, and I got off the bike and walked away from it without putting the kick stand down. It fell over.
    I rode mine around Lake Superior, and back from Grand Marais to the Twin Cities in the rain. At a restaurant off the freeway south of Duluth I ordered chili which arrived cold. I pointed this out to the waitress, and was surprised when she looked seriously frightened - but I suppose right then I looked capable of murdering everyone and burning down the restaurant. But I was young and foolish and immortal, newly in love, and Ann was on the back, so it was all OK, and 40 years later we're still together.
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    It’s hard for one motorbike to do everything. The bike that excels at taking you on world travels is too big and heavy for running errands around town. And the small, light, easy handling bike just doesn’t have the guts to take you and all your stuff on that big adventure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StevenBauer View Post
    It’s hard for one motorbike to do everything. The bike that excels at taking you on world travels is too big and heavy for running errands around town. And the small, light, easy handling bike just doesn’t have the guts to take you and all your stuff on that big adventure.
    That was my dilemma, when I bought this Honda Stateline, last year.

    My previous bike, a 2001 Honda Magna, was very nearly perfect for what I wanted from a bike: reasonable weight, excellent performance, fine for someone who takes it out for pleasure a few times a week, not someone who does any long distance riding anymore.

    Unfortunately, the hassle with the carburetors was just too much... extremely expensive to repair, and very hard to service. Three times during 16 years of ownership, I had to bring it to a dealer for a very expensive 'carb cleanout' because it wouldn't start after a winter of storage... despite using fuel stabilizer. Draining the carb bowls was impossible without hours of disassembly.

    The Stateline, admittedly, wasn't really the sort of bike I wanted, but it came the closest...namely, a bike with fuel injection, a shaft drive, and alloy wheels, which translates, to me, into very low service requirements and high reliability. On the downside, it's considerably heavier, and the narrow angle V-twin vibrates a lot more than the almost 'sewing machine' quality of the Magna's V-4... but, surprisingly, it actually handles better, probably due to the extremely low center of gravity.


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    So Norm, what did you get as your local run around town bike? A scooter like Joe’s?

    And what do you do for storage on that bike? Or can you just not take anything with you?

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    this was my first full size bike that i got when i was 14, honda XL185 enduro. rode it all the way through high school, though it was demoted to just woods riding after i turned 16 and got a truck.


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    here's what i bought myself for college graduation/first real job.



    honda Shadow A.C.E. 750cc. compared to the american v twins, it was smoooooth.

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    Just about every year of these has been shown... I had a 1972 XS2 650. It was great bike. I drove the living shiet of out it, and couldn't break it. Then I bought a '73 FLH, which was dung, but I loved it too. One of my buddies drove my 650 off a ten foot embankment in a field... in the dark. Yep, he lived.
    Wooden boats are like shingles, recurring, and often painful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Mahan View Post
    I remember when you posted about getting that bike. It is awesome looking. You oughta give us a selfie. How's the wind at freeway speed without a windshield or fairing up front? (Not that I would have one.) (Not that I would ride on the freeway if I didn't have to.)
    I added a Memphis Shades 'Deuce' windshield. I like these because it's just a clear acrylic shield, with minimal mounting hardware... no 'billet' crap. I had to buy the optional adapters, because the bars on the Stateline are 1/25" in diameter, instead of the more ordinary 1", on smaller bikes.

    I do occasionally ride on the 'freeway'. I bought this bike too late in the year to use it to go down to my boat in RI (About a 45 mile ride, on Rt. 95), but probably will do that, this coming season. The wind isn't a problem... the vibration is something I have to get used to, though. It's nowhere near as bad, as the typical Harley... but then again, my last bike was the smoothest I've ever ridden. I know, the vibration and sound is part of the supposed 'cachet' of a big motorcycle... not that I wanted it or needed it, it's just that it was unavoidable.

    Quote Originally Posted by StevenBauer
    So Norm, what did you get as your local run around town bike? A scooter like Joe’s?


    Nothing. This IS the 'run around town' bike, except that I wouldn't use it to go to the convenience store for a quart of milk.

    Quote Originally Posted by StevenBauer
    And what do you do for storage on that bike? Or can you just not take anything with you?
    Admittedly, I do miss the luggage rack on my old Honda Magna.

    On that bike, I always used a magnetic tank bag... but on the Stateline, I thought it would look horrible... and might scratch the beautiful paint job. So, I now use a simple backpack. If I want to stop along the way and pick up coffee or iced tea, I have various beverage containers, both insulated and non-insulated, that I can pour coffee or iced tea into, and stow in the backpack. The backpack is large enough for a change of clothes, if I want to ride down to the boat, and spend the night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Malcolm Jardine View Post
    Just about every year of these has been shown... I had a 1972 XS2 650. It was great bike. I drove the living shiet of out it, and couldn't break it.
    So check this out.

    My little fantasy has doubled in price two days in a row.

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    4500 buys an awful lot (like a 2015) of KLR...

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    IIRC, the later XS650s handled a lot better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amish rob View Post
    4500 buys an awful lot (like a 2015) of KLR...

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    Oh I know. I'm not looking to spend new bike money unless it's a new bike.

    Headed the other way, there's another clean looking '78 CB400 for sale, this one near Bellingham, offered for $1000.

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    Looks like it's been on the market a couple months, starting price was $1800...

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    Quote Originally Posted by L.W. Baxter View Post
    Oh I know. I'm not looking to spend new bike money unless it's a new bike.

    Headed the other way, there's another clean looking '78 CB400 for sale, this one near Bellingham, offered for $1000.

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    Looks like it's been on the market a couple months, starting price was $1800...
    Yeah, See? That’s what I mean. Head over with 7 Bills (keep two in the glove box, just in case. Have a child, or, better, your spouse or partner, hand you the last two. One at a time. Slowly. If you need them. ) and get that sucker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanMc View Post
    this was my first full size bike that i got when i was 14, honda XL185 enduro. rode it all the way through high school, though it was demoted to just woods riding after i turned 16 and got a truck.

    Just before finding this thread I'd ordered a top end overhaul kit, valves ,rings etc for a 1980 xl250, otherwise identical to this pic. from a classic Honda specialist in UK... not all stuff available and some parts being made as Honda don't do them any more. but not too much trouble.

    I'm pleased to see the classic jap bike market is doing well, though I have had some stories. when couriering in London 1980s I had a three year old Kawasaki KT 250 trail bike . the Kawasaki main agent said 'what' it doesn't exist. Huh?... there's no microfiche for it...' Doesn't exist? the effing things parked outside your shop now.....
    even a non-affilliated Harley shop had everything for my Panhead on the shelf or within a couple of days and there were only fifteen Duoglides in the whole of uk then, same time , 1980s. most parts came with the packaging ' fits 1936 - 1984' Honda Portugal can't handle the above xl 250 so I have to deal with the uk guys . thanks the stars for the internet.
    In 1989 I scrapped a Yamaha YR5 I think 2 stroke 350 twin about ten years old, maybe more, again because it was impossible to get even service parts for it, let alone engine internals.
    off with their heads

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    Going to look at this one in the morning.

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    I will make him an offer he can't refuse!

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    Niice. My son had one very similar to that. We put on more reasonable handlebars. If you're not too tall, the 'special' is fine, maybe even preferable.
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    That's me. "Not too tall".

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    That’s a nice Yamaha. Maybe you should look at this one, too: https://portland.craigslist.org/clc/...473013098.html.


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    1973 Desmo 450



    A Borille Scrambler 450 ....now

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    I had a 1965 Honda 90 back in high school.
    I rode it just about every day for 2 years.
    I had expired plates the whole 2 years and never got pulled over by the cops.
    It topped out at about 55MPH though I seldom went over 35MPH.
    I sold it to fund my first car.



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    Quote Originally Posted by StevenBauer View Post
    That’s a nice Yamaha. Maybe you should look at this one, too: https://portland.craigslist.org/clc/...473013098.html.

    Ive been ogling K's recently. Not going back to foot forward bikes again, and I'm 6'4".

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    I like K75s , not good for where I live but for highway riding , they're great .... and ridiculously cheap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StevenBauer View Post
    That’s a nice Yamaha. Maybe you should look at this one, too: https://portland.craigslist.org/clc/...473013098.html.

    An excellent bike, I'm sure.

    But the o.p. is about my arrested development. A bike from 1990 still looks like it's from the future.

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    I am leaving shortly to look at the Yamaha. But I have this thing poking me in the brain.

    This '72 Scrambler is really what I've had in my mind's eye. It's overpriced, has a small tank, and I understand it vibrates, would be a more strenuous ride, and probably other negatives I don't even know about. Still, just look at it!

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    Where do you want to ride it?

    How far?

    Road, freeway or dirt?

    How many miles do you have under your belt - on two wheels?
    Someday, I'm going to settle down and be a grumpy old man.

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    i wouldn't even go look at the yamaha
    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    these go for about 4k used all day long. . .

    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P.I. Stazzer-Newt View Post
    Where do you want to ride it?

    How far?

    Road, freeway or dirt?

    How many miles do you have under your belt - on two wheels?
    I have owned a few bikes. Including a ridiculous '79 Suzuki GS1000 which I rode for a summer when I was 23.

    I had an ancient, wobbly, mongrelized Islo 250 in Mexico I toured the state of Chihuahua on, speaking of taking chances.

    I know how to ride, but I am no expert. My judgment is generally suspect.

    If I'm honest, what I'm fantasizing is an escape from all the people and things who depend on me, and all the life details and technicalities I have piled up in twenty two years of adulting. The kind of road I want is a lonely stretch of pavement, followed by a gravel road into the mountains, ending in a campsite next to a creek where I can lay down and die.

    Yesterday I got locked out of one of my online bank accounts because I mistyped the password, then couldn't answer the security question "who was your first crush?" How tf did I answer that 5 years ago? Was it Amy or Michelle? First name only, or first and last? Did I spell Newcomb with an "e" on the end? ****! I'd like to pile it all up and set fire to it. What a drama queen.

    I've looked at a few Craigslist bikes now and I am primarily reminded that I don't like Craigslist or the average Craigslist seller, who tends to be an under-the-table used vehicle dealer with a lot of flaky lies leaking out.

    On the other hand, I put a leg over a new Triumph Bonneville and thought it felt great. I could have one of those with nothing but a signature. There's this barely used one near me at a steep discount.

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    Money is not hard to come by around here these days. But would having a bike--another mouth to feed--belay my dread of the bookkeeping hanging over my head? Or heal the misanthropy rising in my heart? Like a hole in the head?

    I should probably put a bindle on a stick and just walk away before I do something regrettable.
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    K.L.R. Used ones is dirt cheap. New ones is cheap enough.

    Ride some twisties, get on a 4x trail, ride up a piece, and find a creek to camp near?

    That is where I am, yo. Yeah, they don’t look that cool. Either do I, though.

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    Mr Baxter, you have already decded the kind of bike you want, a simple light trailer that can do a bit of highway work, and I've been down that road.
    Reading and watching Ewan Macgregor and Charlie Boorman , thinking I should have written that !
    But the current trend, nay, fashion, for the enormous bike with the big square ally cases is a pose ....in my humble mumble.

    I've done fast highway touring with all the gear on a Triumph Trophy 1200, a BMW K100 and more gently on HD 1200 Sporty styled and 'customised' to look like my beloved but dreadful 64 Panhead, low light strong, fast enough for me, I can pick it when I drop it...but of course no way except on highway or town stuff. Totally confident even in slippery cobbled alleyways in Toledo and some Italian towns. Scared s'''less on the Trophy ...at 5kph.

    BUT still want to get off the road to camp down by a lake or river, even some campsites here are down dirt roads.

    So my latest project is a 400-500 single in a 250 trail bike frame... even the xt 350 and Honda 500 trail bikes are tall and top heavy and I'm 1.83m ... I sat on a 1200 Tenere yesterday and could just get my tippy-toes down on the deck. Amazing machine, but pointless in my view.

    A good traily with a bit of grunt for the green lanes and carrying a bit of basic camping stuff.

    I'd decided on the 650 Aprilia Pegaso, and found a good stock one, but still just unnecessariy big and kept it for about six months. not particularly pokey, higher insurance category, so for the highway tours and distance blasts, its the Harley, for the camping trips and back roads stuff, I have the XL 250 , but would like a little more power. I like to find one of the first XT500s ......
    off with their heads

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy View Post
    Mr Baxter, you have already decded the kind of bike you want, a simple light trailer that can do a bit of highway work, and I've been down that road.
    Yes, you have it diagnosed. Which is why going out of my way to see the xs650 special was kind of dumb. Potentially an excellent bike, but not what I set out for. Same re the Bonneville. Certainly didn't start out thinking of a 500lb bike. Just the natural mission creep that happens when the eyes get cloudy.

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    Congratulations Lee.....LMAO!!!!!
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