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    Quote Originally Posted by mmd View Post
    Stephen, I have contacted my buddy the Motorcycle Guy - what size Nighthawk do you have?
    Itís an Ď82 Nighthawk 450. CB450SC. The shift lever that came with it and is still on it is a bolt welded onto the shaft. Whoever welded it onto the bike then tried to grind off the threads a little so it wouldnít chew up the top of your boot too much. Itís an ugly job but in truth does sort of go with the bikes aesthetic.

    Here it is:

    B21F6A34-5144-40EF-9383-DA95EF6BFF94.jpg

    My son rides it now, I ride the BMW sidecar rig or my Aprilia scooter.
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    So the part you need is the full external shift lever, complete with rubber toe collar, right?
    Hope for the best, but plan for the worst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Wilson View Post
    I agree about late '70s bike aesthetics; I've alway thought this was the Platonic Ideal of what a motorcycle should look like.

    I agree. Yamaha out-Britished the British with that one - and then added reliability and lack of oil leaks...
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    ^Pretty hard to argue with that!

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    Stephen, here is the parts information for your Nighthawk, per the email Edward sent to me just now:

    Part # 24700-417-000 pedal $50.22
    Part # 24781-419-000 rubber $5.41
    Part # 95700-06020-00 bolt $1.03

    I would have next business day if ordered by 1pm

    Edward


    Please note that prices quoted are in Canadian funds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Wilson View Post
    I agree about late '70s bike aesthetics; I've alway thought this was the Platonic Ideal of what a motorcycle should look like.

    There exists a picture of my uncle, with crazy bushy red hair, astride this exact bike. I remember the moment like it was yesterday. I would have been five or six, in absolute awe.

    The bike belonged to the local Lutheran pastor, though.

    Need to find that picture and scan it....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Craig-Bennett View Post
    I agree. Yamaha out-Britished the British with that one - and then added reliability and lack of oil leaks...
    Indeed. It still vibrated some, but it was geared so at speed it only shook once per telephone pole. And the SR500 was what the Gold Star should have been, but never was. I had one of these, almost identical to the one in the photo - same exhaust, and nearly the same bars. It would have been better (and lighter) with spoked wheels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Craig-Bennett View Post
    I agree. Yamaha out-Britished the British with that one - and then added reliability and lack of oil leaks...
    And put the shifter and rear brake lever on the proper sides.

    Peace,
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    Quote Originally Posted by StevenBauer View Post
    Well donít try to find a shift lever for an Ď82 Nighthawk, Michael. Iíve been looking for years.
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/1982-82-HON...FZFL5C&vxp=mtr

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmd View Post
    So the part you need is the full external shift lever, complete with rubber toe collar, right?
    Right.

    I just looked it up and the first place I looked shows it as available. In the past every time I tried to order it I could place the order but then I got a message later that they didnít actually have it.

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    Get thee hence to the e-bay site that Iceboy has provided a link to - the price is right.
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    How can I check if the shifter from the 750 fits the 450?

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    Quote Originally Posted by amish rob View Post
    And put the shifter and rear brake lever on the proper sides.

    Peace,
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    Don't get me started... I like my sidecars to have a brake on the chair wheel...
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    Stephen, at risk of sounding overly pedantic, call a Honda motorcycle parts department & ask. The axle end is likely the same; the length might be different. Shifting lever of my '78 SOHC750 fits most of the CB models I know of (350, 450, 550) so I suspect that Honda didn't change a casting without good reason. Besides, for $15, it's worth the bet.
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    You’re right, it’s probably worth a shot. The guys at counter at the dealer weren’t even born when these bikes were made. They have been less than helpful when asked about stuff like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Craig-Bennett View Post
    Don't get me started... I like my sidecars to have a brake on the chair wheel...
    Perhaps the chair is on the wrong side...
    Someday, I'm going to settle down and be a grumpy old man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Craig-Bennett View Post
    Don't get me started... I like my sidecars to have a brake on the chair wheel...
    The first motorbike I ever rode was a Gold Star my friendís dad owned. I subsequently found it IMPOSSIBLE to get my first
    Honda into gear.
    There was a bit of a learning curve that day.

    Peace,
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    P.S. Then I started on bicycles, and over here the front brake is the LEFT hand side. My poor fascia never quite knows what it is astride, or how to react.

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    Yeah, but they are good at 'pooters, and Honda computerized parts lists also show cross-listings, as in, "Fits models CB350, CB450..."

    Edit to add for Rob: A friend of my brother's bought a rather extreme (for the day) Triumph chopper before he had a motorcycle driver's license. On the day of his driving test, he thought it might be a bad idea to take his test on an all-chrome chopper with loud pipes and no front brake, so he asked to borrow my Honda CB350. It didn't go well. At least he didn't drop my bike.
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    While on the topic of English sports tourer twins, one night, when I was perhaps fourteen, my brother and his friend came in all beat up from a bike road rash encounter. The friend had been to Europe and brought back a Triumph 750. Our parents didn't approve, and naively thought their disapproval would win out. It didn't. I, as the younger brother confidant as they nursed their wounds, was sworn to secrecy.

    Oh, motorcycles!

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    But I, being poor, have only my dreams;
    I have spread my dreams under your feet;
    Tread softly because you tread on my dreams."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Craig-Bennett View Post
    I suffer from the same arrested development.

    This, from 1977, is the correct shape for a motorcycle tank. And the correct colour. But the Honda is nice. I'd buy it. I had a 250 Superdream, which was gutless but handled OK, and the 400 model, which was just nice.

    I had one of those R 60s for a while, it did the standing quarter as quick as the Bonnie that preceded it, handled a lot better, didnt vibrate itself to pieces, the seat was comfortable and the electrics reliable. All that and no oil leaks, of all the bikes that I rode, thats the one I'd like to have today.

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    ^Yeah, those Beemers of that era! Don't get me started about my German heritage! "Why have those cylinder's popping up and down without good cadence, let them be opposed and balance one another."

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    There's an excellent reason you never, ever see a Yamaha 750 twin anymore.

    This was my first bigger bike. It had many virtues, but aesthetics wasn't among them.

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    My dad came home with this, when I was 13. Learned a bit about 'tuning', could squeeze 85 out of it.

    There's a lot of things they didn't tell me when I signed on with this outfit....

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    My mom made me 'trade' it in, when I got my first car. Pretty sure the dealer charged more, 'to boot', then he wanted for the car. He was shocked and delighted to see it was pristine. Unusual for a kids bike, I suppose.

    Now I just have this sitting in my garage - haven't ridden in awhile, like having it around!

    There's a lot of things they didn't tell me when I signed on with this outfit....

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    This one's available locally, too.

    IMG_0051.jpg

    Dang, I like it. Gotta go take a look.

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    I had a CB450. They vibrate. Good God, do they vibrate!

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    Quote Originally Posted by john welsford View Post
    I had one of those R 60s for a while, it did the standing quarter as quick as the Bonnie that preceded it, handled a lot better, didnt vibrate itself to pieces, the seat was comfortable and the electrics reliable. All that and no oil leaks, of all the bikes that I rode, thats the one I'd like to have today.

    John Welsford
    Yes. Of the bikes I’ve had, this one is the one I love the best. It’s forty years old, it’s done almost a hundred thousand miles, it isn’t the best at anything but it’s jolly good at everything. And the tyre pump is still under the seat...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Wilson View Post
    Indeed. It still vibrated some, but it was geared so at speed it only shook once per telephone pole. And the SR500 was what the Gold Star should have been, but never was. I had one of these, almost identical to the one in the photo - same exhaust, and nearly the same bars. It would have been better (and lighter) with spoked wheels.

    Keith,
    I have a 1980 version of this bike, in maroon, with a White Bros hop-up kit. I loved riding this bike in the twisties!
    it now resides under a tarp in my back yard, getting rusty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmd View Post
    My first motorcycle was exactly like the 1972 Honda CB350 shown below, except for some 'tweaking' of the engine internals. The second week I owned it I drove from Nova Scotia to Cape Cod and back in four days so I could go to a concert. Yup, I too suffered from Immortal Youth Syndrome.

    My first bike was a CB 500 four. Same year I think, definitely same colors. Not much power but a sweet engine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amish rob View Post
    And put the shifter and rear brake lever on the proper sides.

    Peace,
    Gold Star
    Excuse me? They were on precisely the correct side - but the Japanese had to screw it all up.

    Harumph!

    [Though I will admit my first bike was a Honda 305 that had the shifter on the wrong side]
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    Quote Originally Posted by StevenBauer View Post
    Well donít try to find a shift lever for an Ď82 Nighthawk, Michael. Iíve been looking for years.
    Have you looked on Ebay? A quick search there showed several for sale.
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    A flatmate poses for the camera.

    IMG_7627.jpg

    Honda 400/4, with apologies. Turning circle 180'. Mustang tank, 3 1/2' springers, metal moulded frame (no filler). 4 into 4 stainless horizontal drag pipes, straight through and louder than thunder even with helmet on. Completely tasteless I know, but a fun engineering project, and kept me busy for a while in the early 90's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Wilson View Post
    I had a CB450. They vibrate. Good God, do they vibrate!
    Yeah? Dang. Did a search, apparently you weren't the only one to notice.

    Didn't call on it. Danged handsome though. Look at the gas tank, I could be admired here with a gas tank like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twodot View Post
    I rode one from Montana to Portland, Oregon in one day, 500 miles, to see the Dead, July 1982. I told the story before, but that is true for all of my stories, I was so spaced out from the vibration and Columbia gorge winds that by Portland I stopped to get gas, looked at the pump and it said pay first inside, and I got off the bike and walked away from it without putting the kick stand down. It fell over.
    That's good stuff, right there.

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    How about the scrambler? Did you call on that one?

    I ordered the shifter for the Nighthawk. Lots more Nighthawk stuff there than last time I looked a few years ago.

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