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    Has anyone had dealings with the Jerkish Gullett Co
    Company has expensive, no experience in boatbuilding, we dont have the nessry, facultys, kipment, or person, We dont no how to make good boat, all boats we build is rubbish but we don’t care, because when you paid, whot you gonna do baht it, fool, you believe, any things wot we tell you, one born every minute, Out of 4’000 pictures we select onli 13 to show you cos rest is rubbish, we are never ready to answer the questions ...from customer, cos we are in whorehouse with bank manager, then we go casino, sniff drugs, where we make joke about stupid client, soon parted with cash, like ever body knows you either gedda de Turkish or de best, we don’t givva de fuk,
    Gullet is very old vessel built of crap, they were used for 12’000 years by thieves, stealing all you got, olive oil, amphoras, wine, was used when we got plastered with ouzo, in extensive exploration and trading voyages we go rape and pillage, with your sheep Over the years the gullet has degenerated from was beautiful graceful swan, now is fat ugly pig of dog, finished with sand blast and cement, cracked deck, weak superstructure, hull not caulked, cos we fuggin lazy, so boat sink you buy another boat, we not stupid, we see you coming out of bank .
    Most boats is built by rum bods called Stanley on the black, many years ago we study where we find best materials, we make extensive search high and low far and wide, thick and thin, then after careful deliberation and much consultation we make choice , the engine come out of front of old lorry, the wood fall of the back, we do our very best for you sir are most discerning customer, refined and prestigious in your ways, true or not we know you want hear this, you so stupid you pay we tell you your wonderful, our boats are so well known in Sweden they are called Voidatallcost, which our Swedish friends tried to translate to us but we too thick to understand much at all, the emphasis in our ranch built cabins is no air conditioning, tacky finish, leaky deck, goat in cupboard, mosquito in broken shower, none of this is in our brochure which is written by B.Cartland and any banker who lost his job, now we use his lack of moral fibre to sell you nightmare/holiday you will never be able to forget , we don’t care because next year another punter flies delayed plane.

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    Sounds like fear and loathing on the boatyard dock. Hunter S. Thompson, Is that you? BFTD?

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    I had been working under the arches at Kew Bridge building loudspeaker cabinets for rock bands. I made the routing jigs too for all the guys to use and we made the cabinets of birch and gaboon plywood. I layed the concrete floor in the workshop, I had learnt to do this making swimming pools in Norfolk.
    When I got involved with a lovely Frenchwoman I wanted to stay with her, so I thought I better get a long term job. I'd heard about the Brentford yard so I went along to ask for a job as a labourer. It didn't occur to me to be a shipwright or yacht joiner; when I asked the boss for a job he jokingly said to me you can replace our shipwright, a south coast trained guy who had just left. I thought he was joking but six months later I was a shipwright. The boss said I'd become a boat builder overnight and a year later I was the shipwright foreman.
    I had studied hundreds of boats and lived on them most of my life so I knew how they went together. I'd studied every book I could find: I knew how to rig them and when I started work at that yard in Brentford it all came together. I found something I was very good at and it became my career. What a surprise, I worked with my girlfriend.
    Brentford is where I learned the main shipwright techniques. I made spile boards, patterns, jigs, planks ,frames ,floorboards ,panels, roofs, decks, shearing, bulkheads ,linings. The boats were usually elm or steel bottoms 3" x 7' x 6” to 30” wide bottom planks, fastened across the boat to steel or wrought iron knees which were also fastened to the first strake, the chine. The first strake was slightly angled. The rest of the oak side hull planks were slab sided until the top strake, which was angled in. The forward and aft planks were mostly steamed in a steambox that was.fed by a fire made of old planks and anything else, sometimes started with paraffin. These oak planks were very difficult to steam into place as there was any amount of junk either side of every boat or on the dockside over the water. Tanks, boards, panels, plywood, cupboards taken out of the boat to get to the hulls to repair them, fridges, cookers, a car or van, trolleys, baskets, oil drums, water containers. You could barely find a way through the yard sometimes. Bicycles and motorbikes, stacks of oak, elm, pine, mahogany. If you can steam 2 inch thick by 10 inch wide oak 25 foot long planks round the bow of a narrowboat you can probably steam them around most boats because the bows of narrowboats have sharp shoulders. And the smell of fresh steamed oak soaked in linseed oil in the sunshine is great along with tobacco ,red lead and creosote. It smells great though dangerous.
    We replaced cratch beams, foredecks, stern decks, cabins, beams, gunnel caps, and counter blocks. The whole world of narrowboats is very particular. Apart from us repairing them there didn't seem to be many people who repaired them on the canals in southern England. The other yards mostly did interior work.

    Some of these narrowboat owners go to odd lengths to buy replica tollgate tickets from 100 years ago. Some of them dress up like people from 100 years ago. One guy walked into the yard and asked if we had a narrowboat. He had bought an old clapped out engine , maybe 60 years old a Bolinder, the holy grail for these boat owners. With a faraway look in his eye and his hand on his wallet we could tell he was serious.

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    I got together with a gorgeous Somali model, Juliette, who had been brought up ina finishing school in San Remo, paid for by gangsters. She was very confused andlonely. Her parents had just died in the Somali war. She had her own hairdresser andchauffeured car, along with other benefits, but in return she was hired out to hang on thearm of people like Gadaffi to make them appear to be human. After years of that thegangsters demanded that she have sex with the customers. She refused and theydropped her; stopped supporting her, no car, no apartment, no new clothes, nohairdresser, no food, no money. So she was floundering around trying to make a livingpainting and sleeping on people’s boats. She wouldn’t steal, but she was trying tounderstand her past – her lifestyle had been paid for by thieves. We didn’t last longtogether, as I had the feeling that something terrible was going to happen so I stoppedseeing her. 200 years ago my family had lived in Northumbria, England. There was a bookwritten about them, Devil Water, by Anya Seton. I had searched for this book for yearswith no luck, I found 2 copies in Antibes Market. I was going around town to the barstrying to find work, as this is where you would find all the boat crews. I drove withJuliette to Nice, where we spoke to the owner of the Black Swan, who was a nicehelpful guy, quite different from a lot of the boat owners. I asked for day work, I left myCV around but after weeks of searching, nothing. I thought that if I had taken arotovator to the pontoon, started it up and let it go up the gangplanks of some of theyachts and asked for work, the response would be the same. There are a lot of mean,nasty, vicious yacht owners in Antibes, which is probably how some of them got thecash to buy their boats. I saw Iduna there. She was a De Fries Lentsch Dutch eighty ft. steel ketch I had

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    Love to read it David but I tried searching on Amazon, came up empty.

    As for F*Book?

    I absolutely, POSITIVELY refuse to have anything to do with that abhorrent enterprise.

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    Lulworth, 120ft., 173 tonnes, gaff cutter teak deck, mahogany planking, steelframe compositeand Patience, 68ft. C and N 1931 teak Bermudan yacht, 100 % restoration The yacht had been converted into a ketch from a Bermudan cutter in the 60s, thestainless steel honeymoon years, just before they all got into bed with fibreglass, whichalong with aluminium have to be some of the most ugly and dangerous postwarproducts. But I’m bound to be distressed by these things as my modus operandi isbeauty and strength rather than speed and ugly design. All this junk hardware had to bereplaced with new bronze hull, deck, interior and mast fittings.The electrolytic blight orchestra, the giveaway rivulet rain tracks and many otherdetails I learnt from 29 years surveying wooden boats.Some of the photos on Lulworth and Patience were taken by Catherine Libeert aphotographer from brussels, who regularly brought us Belgian chocolates. One day Poland beat Italy at football, when you’re in charge it pays to know thefixtures even if you don’t follow football, next day one of the poles dropped a steelframe on his foot with a vodka hangover, so for a month part of his work, hobbling on abroom was gluing up old hull planks, he was was to be kept working wearing leathersandals, I told him to get some steel toe capped working boots, I didn’t want to sendhim off the job because the team was welding tight, we could only use 10 old planks, ifthe yard on the Riviera had put a tarpaulin on the hull 20 years ago we could have used150 old teak planks, what’s the difference in cost between that & a tilt, that yardreckoned they were the restoration yard in the Med, but tarpaulins obviously weren’t theonly things they were pig ignorant about. I made a new 2 ton keel & gripe cut out of solid opepe, and a new keel, deadwoods, counter, stem, sternpost. The Italian companies could not deliver irokokeels, 30 ft. long x 3ft. wide x 10 or 20 inches thick, so I measured and ordered it fromBarchards in Hull, 25 tons of it, to do the centreline & beams, etc. We made lodging,hanging knees in way of mast, double teak beamshelves, web plate knees, mast step. Inone month I bored the sterntubes on Lulworth & Patience. I caulked all of Patience. Imade a building board, joining 6 x 1 inch planks longer than the boat on the ground,painting it white, for marking out all the deckbeams, I fixed the board level above theboat, dropping the lines down to the boat, I could not hang it off the scaffolding roofwhich blew about in the wind.The battens hanging from the building board represent the main deck beams, not thehalf beams, a straight edge is then put across the gunnels, & equal measurements eitherside of the centre line are marked on the straight edge, as the boat may not haveoriginally been built symmetrically, as is the case with Patience, 3 cms fuller on the portbow & Lulworth 5 cms fuller on the stbd bow, the difference is taken up in the coveringboards for the decking, & horned/ squared across the boat, first the mast beams, then afew others, cockpit, doghouse, etc. Then it needs a person with a tape measure eachside. At the time I had no one with me who could speak English or Italian, so 2 Polesmeasured until their numbers agreed, I couldn't understand what they were saying but Ididn't need to, then I double checked them, I also measured off the stem & aftcentreline horning, then the half beams are measured off them. The bunch of thick scaffolders we had could not grasp the concept of the strengthof triangular construction, even thought the clues went into their mouths at breakfasttime: cherry pies, with a triangular lattice decoration. They were oblivious to it. Insteadthey used rectangular cross scaffold beams to support the roof, which bowed in themiddle when there was a ton of water on the tarpaulins. The results were broken tarpsand stained Honduras Mahogany interiors. I tried a few times to explain it, but they

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    Wedrove to Ireland and my brother kindly brought all my tools over. Wehad a little Citroen and we stayed in Tralee for a while until wefound a lovely house overlooking the bay, for rent, at ClahaneBallyard, owned by a Rococo fanatic. We hid all her stuff away whereit couldn’t get damaged. Forever after ifmy wife and I saw a debateable piece of furniture for sale we mightsay, It’s a bit too Philomena for us. Thepeople who owned the house were a nouveau riche couple who like somany Irish were desperate to meet the queen of England, since theydidn’t have one of their own. They saidthey lived in Kensington; they actually lived in Kennington. One ofthe reasons the Celtic Tiger collapsed just after then, was the bankswere lending money to developers to build huge housing estates, butas an Irish economist said, ‘It’snot Berkshire, is it?’
    Theycouldn’t sell the houses as there weren’tmany jobs to pay the mortgages, so when it all collapsed, many peopledidn’t even own their own luxury cars –they had not bought anything completely; it wasall on credit. Later you could buy luxury cars in Ireland for 20%,even 10% of their value. And they were one or two year-old cars.


    TheIrish boss had organised restoring a steam train and windmill to grabthe tourists on the Kerry ring, a fifty mile cash register thathoovers your wallet clean at every bus stop. He also wanted to builtan emigrant ship. He organised it all and advertised in Ireland forshipwrights. He got one reply. So he advertised in England andfurther. What a massive build. One hundred and twenty foot, fourhundred and fifty tonnes, a square rigged ship. A replica of one thathad traded to USA and Canada, taking emigrants. My apprentice wasDebra Donovan, who was related to the first owner of the originalship Jeanie Johnston (JJ).


    Thekeel and keelson were massive. We drilled for them and the deadwoodswith 2-3 metre-long drills, welded to the chucks because the chuckskept opening. We cut the frame pieces on a huge bandsaw and twomassive 30” thicknessers, bought fromHarland & Wolfe, Belfast, who had built the Titanic. We hadJanis, an apprentice known as Janis The Beveller, as she controlledthe bevel that the bandsaw head would tilt at with a threadcuttingmachine. The angles were marked on the frame pieces, the floors weresided 250mm and the frame pieces 200mm, doubled.

    Thefirm who got the job of lofting the frames said they were the bestfirm for the job. They had never done it before and it showed, asthey lofted all the pieces to the wrong side of the frame. Clowns.And their lofting was not accurate so many filler pieces had to beput in to build up their hollows. But they were chancers and thoughtthey knew it all.

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    a review , I made the purchase, am about 50% through it-Chapt 17. There are gaps, ramblings, flat-earth dead-pans, & occasional peeks into the Authors internal world-view, Humble so! Well researched/annotated (everything written comes out as true). Literature is sometimes flat, as description runs on (factually) without contour of authorial point of view. Text seems to be written for boat builders, from boat builder. Popular audience may struggle to latch on to some of your more basic shipbuilding concepts as they are spelled out. You are succinct almost to a fault, as it takes much conceptualization between words/ideas. Again, it is a narrative for shipbuilders from ship builder. Opening in detail & breadth with the occasional interpersonal interlude would help bring in a larger audience. Explaining specifically certain aspects of rebuild, would give perspective for a larger audience. Further (& I think you achieved this in the shorthand) giving interpersonal perspective (humanizing the narrative) would go far in 'selling' the idea. (It's incredible the veracity of everything you've written!) There is a humble voice that must needs be shouted larger though. (Also your descriptions seem to be a bit flat at times ) It's an awesome work of literature no matter how it's ripped apart. I f...ing love it. christopher adamson


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    [IMG]file:///C:/Users/Owner/AppData/Local/Temp/lu65161t0cmq.tmp/lu65161t0cn0_tmp_ff1f145380b7369f.jpg[/IMG]
    RadclyffeDilston Class 9 meter gaff cutter


    Lulworthnew lines plan by Peter Radclyffe to which the present yacht is built
    Contents
    L'indiceč vuoto perché nonstai utilizzando gli stili paragrafo che hai scelto di visualizzarvi.
    1.Days of Dandelion and Burdock in Shepperton, Weybridge and EastAnglia
    2.Narrowboats: 72 C. BrenDord, Uxbridge, Tring, Bull’s Bridge

    3.Irene, 85 C. West Country Trading Ketch: BrenDord, London, Bristol,Gloucester
    4.France, BriSany, Le Mans, La Tranche sur mer

    5.Richmond Ferry Pax, 26 C. rebuilt for Museum of London, Eel PieIsland, Twickenham
    6.Reclaimer, 45 C. Owens Motor Yacht, Twickenham
    7.Largemoor and Yarmouth Seaman, 65 C. Admiralty MFV’s, Hamble,Southampton/Kingston/
    Amsterdam

    8.Viking Ship and Roman Galleon, 70 C. Hinks, Chertsey
    9.Sapphire and Aquila, 2 new wooden trawlers, 72 C. Hinks, Appledore,Devon, built for Peterhead,
    Scotland

    10.Rankin Miss P, Radclyffe Design No 57, at Hinks, Appledore
    11.Clovelly Picarooner, Devon 14 C. new wooden fishing lugger, NewForest
    12.Ortmans Class, 8 metre MFV yacht, Radclyffe Design No.52, ItchenRiver, Southampton
    13.CraCsman’s Art and Rocco, SYS 72 C. Bermudan Charter ketches forthe Caribbean, built
    Southampton

    14.Andbes, Biot, Vannes, Telhouet, Le Mans, BriSany, France
    15.Butcher Bill
    16.Mohican, 66 C. Consolidated Commuter, 1929 TSMY, Elba, Italy
    17.Grand Turk, new wooden pirate ship rigging, Gloucester
    18.Jeanie Johnston, 120 C. replica wooden emigrant ship, 450 tons,Kerry, Ireland
    19.Gracie III, Alzavola, 60 C. Claude Worth 1924 wooden ketch, fishingboats, Viareggio, Italy
    20.Iduna, 1939, De Vries Lentsch, 90 C. steel ketch, Viareggio
    21.Lulworth, 1920, 120 C. 170 tons, gaff marconi cuSer, teak, mahogany,steel composite, and
    Padence,68 C. C and N, 1931, teak bermudan cuSer, Viareggio
    22.The Big Class
    23.Alice, 20 C. mahogany replica of a 1927 motor yacht tender, Viareggio
    24.Radclyffe Design No.62, 3 ton, 6 metre, new wooden work/pleasure boatfor Esaom Canderi,
    Elba,Italy
    25.Santa Maria Terza, 6 metre, 1935 Vela Ladna gozzo, restoradon
    26.Floods, Threats and Beers
    27.Radclyffe Designs
    28.Radclyffe J Class Designs

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    This thread was somewhat interesting. Apparently some of Peter's posts were excerpts from the book, mostly before editing. Looked it up on Amazon a few minutes ago. After seeing the responses her, I was surprised to see only 1 review and and three additional ratings, none from the US.

    Does not seem to be my cup of tea, so I will not be purchasing and reviewing myself. If anyone else here has, please do Peter the courtesy of reviewing it.

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    ulav8r thank you

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    Wonderful, wonderful work, mister.

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    With all my heart I wish you good luck with publishing and we are looking for it!!!

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    thanks guys

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    OlinStephens asked me to look at an old bermudan wooden yacht he haddesigned and built, the Kiwi, they could not work out why it wasleaking around the rudder. I asked Olin to put the helm hard overport and starboard several times, as I suspected the counteroutrigger was rotten and leaking around the rudder bearing, wherethey had not ventilated the counter and fresh water had got in, theyasked me if I could repair it straight away, I told them I could doit after the Big Class. The repair would be hard work in the Italiansummer, but it was a lot more work than just that, as it meant takingoff the sterndeck and cockpit. The project manager did not know whoOlin was but when he found out he was all over him like an unctuousslimy weasely fawning --
    well--- uh project manager. The project managers parents apologised to mefor their son’s behaviour, they were soashamed of the way he treated people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SchoonerRat View Post
    While nobody actually sets type anymore, it's still called typesetting. I started working for a commercial printer at the dawn of the "electronic age". When I started, there were still people called typesetters, who did their work on computers. Eventually, the work of typesetting was taken over by people with titles like, graphic artist, graphic designer and pre-press technician.

    Typesetters are gone, buy type setting is not.
    I worked for a couple of years on a newsletter published in a print shop that used a linotype. Fascinating machine to watch in action. The typesetters sometimes worked in a language they could not read or understand--they set the type letter-by-letter, so they didn't actually need to read. One problem was that when the printer got mad, on occasion, he would start throwing lines of lead type at you. You couldn't do that with a computer.

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    Radclyffe Design No 57 Rankin Miss P. 10 ft. carvel elm on elm and oak dinghy I decided instead to teach myself lofting. When Hinks had got the order for the big trawler, it was probably the first order for a big wooden trawler in England for fifteen years or more. He had recently built a 54 footer for Dartmouth. So when he got the new order for the Scottish boat he couldn’t refuse it, although he had a twenty ft. workboat repair job near Barnstaple. Hinks very kindly handed me the repair job to do for myself at weekends, reading between the lines, I thought if I buy the elm timber to repair the workboat and the owner changes his mind, what do I do with the timber? I bought the elm and designed a dinghy, 10 ft. elm on bent elm and sawn oak frames, as a lofting exercise in the evenings and weekends, the owner changed his mind on the 20 footer, so I built the dinghy, a dry run in the back room of my digs, and took it to the yard and assembled it. I called the dinghy the Rankin Miss P, after the beautiful black woman on BBC World Service, who played lover’s rock reggae in London, from where I had just escaped. I remember sitting in the service station at Heston, on my way down the M4, trying to knock the skin off a rice pudding. I couldn’t even manage that; London almost killed me. Only the river made it bearable to live there.Rankin Miss P, the person, turned out to be the sister of Rita Marley, Bob’s wife. One story I heard, whilst in Ilfracombe, North Devon, was of a local woman who, when she saw Bob Marley on the TV, perhaps at the Exeter concert, claimed that he was from her family. Her reasoning was the shape of his nose, the same shape as people in her family, and her name was Marley. People thought she was crazy, but she may be right because Bob’s father left Ilfracombe on a ship bound for the land of reggae and ganja, before it was known for reggae and ganja. I fastened the dinghy with four inch copper nails and roves for the keel, plus 3/8 inch bolts from my mate who ran Belsize Boatyard in Southampton. When I later took it to the Itchen I put a mast and sail on it, then we took it on my mates MFV to the Douarnenez , Brest festival where my girl’s sister Christine painted the name on the transom.One woman drove her car straight off the quay at Bideford nearb

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