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    [IMc - As you will see if you read to the end, including the end note about how and why the story was corrected to its present form, in some ways this is last year's story. Not every evil being doled out by Trump is just Trump. It's Republican party policy. ]

    Republicans accused of obstructing satellite research into climate change
    Congress ordered destruction of vital sea-ice probe

    Robin McKie Observer science editor

    Sunday 5 November 2017 03.00 EST Last modified on Friday 10 November 2017 07.32 EST

    The Republican majority in the US Congress has been accused of deliberately obstructing research on global warming after it emerged that a critically important technique for investigating sea-ice cover at the poles faces being blocked.

    The row has erupted after a key polar satellite broke down a few days ago, leaving the US with only three ageing ones, each operating long past their shelf lives, to measure the Arctic’s dwindling ice cap. Scientists say there is no chance a new one can now be launched until 2023 or later. None of the current satellites will still be in operation then.

    The crisis has been worsened because the US Congress this year insisted that a backup sea-ice probe had to be dismantled because it did not want to provide funds to keep it in storage. Congress is currently under the control of Republicans, who are antagonistic to climate science and the study of global warming.

    “This is like throwing away the medical records of a sick patient,” said David Gallaher of the National Snow and Ice Data Center in Boulder, Colorado. “Our world is ailing and we have apparently decided to undermine, quite deliberately, the effectiveness of the records on which its recovery might be based. It is criminal.”

    The threat to the US sea-ice monitoring programme – which supplies data to scientists around the world – will trigger further accusations at this week’s international climate talks in Bonn that the Trump administration is trying to block studies of global warming for ideological reasons.

    Earth’s sea ice has shrunk dramatically – particularly in the Arctic – in recent years as rising emissions of greenhouse gases have warmed the planet. Satellites have been vital in assessing this loss, thanks mainly to America’s Defence Meteorological Satellite Programme (DMSP), which has overseen the construction of eight F-series satellites that use microwaves sensors to monitor sea-ice coverage. These probes, which have lifespans of three to five years, have shown that millions of square kilometres of sea ice have disappeared from the Arctic over the past 20 years, allowing less solar energy to be reflected back into space – and so further increasing global temperatures – while also disrupting Inuit life and wildlife in the region.

    At present three ageing satellites – DMSP F16, F17 and F18 – remain in operation, though they are all beginning to drift out of their orbits over the poles. The latest satellite in the series, F19, began to suffer sensor malfunctions last year and finally broke down a few weeks ago. It should have been replaced with the F20 probe, which had already been built and was being kept in storage by the US Air Force. However it had to be destroyed, on the orders of the US Congress, on the grounds that its storage was too costly.

    Many scientists say this decision was made for purely ideological reasons. They also warn that many other projects for monitoring climate change, including several satellite missions, face similar threats from the Trump administration and Congress.

    Such losses have serious consequences, say researchers. “Sea-ice data provided by satellites is essential for initiating climate models and validating them,” said Andrew Fleming of the British Antarctic Survey. “We will be very much the poorer without that information.”

    The heading, standfirst and first paragraph of this article were amended on 8 November 2017 after an editing intervention erroneously accused President Donald Trump of obstructing satellite research into climate change. The Trump administration had nothing do with this as the decision was made by Congress in September, 2016.

    https://www.theguardian.com/science/...hange-research

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    They ain't gonna learn what they don't want to know.
    '' You ain't gonna learn what you don't want to know. ''
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    With global temperatures rising there should be plenty of sand to stick their heads into during the coming decades.

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    How much can it cost to STORE a multi million dollar satellite? These bastards are going to kill the entire planet.
    "Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." - Alice

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    Goresat (Triana) cost about $1M/year to store for about a decade. Storage of unlaunched satellites is not cheap. I can't explain it, but that is what they quote.

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    So, how does that compare to the cost of free travel on military planes for the Trump brood and the rest of he trumpsters and how many golf trips for the cheater in chief?
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    I remember it was reported that it costs about 3 mil for each visit TRMP makes to Mara Loco.

    The Rep. congressmen are guilty of crimes against humanity, as far as I'm concerned.

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    I don't blame them. Science is hard.
    There is no rational, logical, or physical description of how free will could exist. It therefore makes no sense to praise or condemn anyone on the grounds they are a free willed self that made one choice but could have chosen something else. There is no evidence that such a situation is possible in our Universe. Demonstrate otherwise and I will be thrilled.

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    Maybe this is how civilization dies.

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    ……with a whimper...

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    But the F-35 is right on track!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeG View Post
    Maybe this is how civilization dies.
    Speak for your selves.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peerie Maa View Post
    Speak for your selves.
    a civilization

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeG View Post
    a civilization
    What a feed line.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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