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    Default 8,000-Year-Old Pottery Shards Reveal Traces of The World's Oldest Wine

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    8,000-Year-Old Pottery Shards Reveal Traces of The World's Oldest Wine (ARTICLE LINK)

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    Evidence of the world's oldest known winemaking has been uncovered in the nation of Georgia, with a chemical analysis of Stone Age pottery jars fingerprinting an ancient drop going back some 8,000 years.

    They say wine improves with age, and if that's true, the discovery is truly sublime – and pushes back the world's earliest evidence of modern-style viticulture by up to 1,000 years, trumping earlier finds in the Zagros Mountains of Iran dating to around 5400–5000 BCE.

    The discovery, made by researchers from the University of Toronto in Canada and the Georgian National Museum, is also a fitting one.

    Georgia, which has a long heritage of winemaking, is positioned at a crossroads between Western Asia and Eastern Europe, and the grape identified in jar fragments excavated from two Neolithic-era villages is Vitis vinifera –aka the 'Eurasian grapevine', from which nearly all kinds of modern wine originate.
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    Default Re: 8,000-Year-Old Pottery Shards Reveal Traces of The World's Oldest Wine

    mmmmmmm 8,000 year old wine.

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    You scooped me, Sharpie, I was about to post the same thing. Let's lift a glass to our prehistoric colleagues.

    I used to make wine regularly but not lately. However the other day I was cleaning up in the cellar and found a couple of cases of wine that's been aging for about ten years--advanced age in wine isn't always a mark of quality, but I'll open one this evening, and will report on it here.

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    Default Re: 8,000-Year-Old Pottery Shards Reveal Traces of The World's Oldest Wine

    Think they'll ever find an 8,000 year old bong, or some roaches?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Dryfoot View Post
    Think they'll ever find an 8,000 year old bong, or some roaches?


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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanMc View Post
    mmmmmmm 8,000 year old wine.
    I understand that it's very dry.

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    Default Re: 8,000-Year-Old Pottery Shards Reveal Traces of The World's Oldest Wine

    Frank! would call false as the world is only 6,000 years old
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Dryfoot View Post
    Think they'll ever find an 8,000 year old bong, or some roaches?
    Ötzi the Iceman, the mummified 5,300-year-old corpse found on the mountain border between Austria and Italy was carrying a bag of cannabis and nearly two pounds of still-green potent canabis was found in a 2,700-year-old grave in the Gobi Desert.
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    Default Re: 8,000-Year-Old Pottery Shards Reveal Traces of The World's Oldest Wine

    I mentioned elsewhere that I used to make wine, and that I'd recently found a case lot of ten year old of my wine. I said that I'd taste it this evening, and call the ambulance corps if it was as bad as I expected.
    Wh'd you know...I did taste it, and as home made wines go, it wasn't too bad. It lacks body, but is smooth and mellow.
    Haven't any idea what grapes I used on this batch. Probably a mixture including table grapes and my own Marechal Foch,

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