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    Quote Originally Posted by Garret View Post
    But do you have 8x10 color glossies with circles & arrows and a paragraph on the back to prove it?
    I might have one badly deteriorated 50 year old Polaroid, but I'd never know where to find it. I could, in lieu, present a genuine, authentic, real live draft card with the leters 4F, and I didn't have to make small talk with the father stabbers on the bench there.
    Schooner captains love to get blown offshore!

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    Hi Jay, my wife was talking to her mother who grew up on Balboa Island. I believe she is 84 years old now, so a bit older than you. Here is a memory or two that she asked that we pass on to you.

    "Hi Janie,Next time you talk to Jay Greer ask him if he was familiar with the Balboa Island Yacht Club. It probably had died out by the time he was there. The Beek family was the moving factor in that but the boys were all older than I was. Joe Beek ran the ferry from the Island to Balboa. I don't recall if they owned it.
    Fun thinking about that."

    I am really enjoying the memories you and other are sharing about the area. I know the area well, but only from the early 70's.

    Richard Beck

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    It seems that Balboa Island Yacht Club is still alive and well.

    http://scya.org/member-yacht-clubs/biyc/

    I somehow have spent my life sailing in SoCal without knowing about this club that was established in 1922.
    Schooner captains love to get blown offshore!

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    This was moms follow up:

    It was a name only. No buildings. I think it was the Beeks idea to plan (organize) things like sailing and swimming races and keep the kids busy during the summer. Not a city organization.

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    Yes, it is still active and the members still pull their boats up on the beach in front of Beek's house.

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    Another schooner, not pictured, is the "Dreamer. She was gaff rigged, 49'6" in length and sported a locomobile 30hp gas engine. Joe Fellows built her in 1904 in San Pedro. "Dreamer" was moored in the South Channel of Newport Harbor just off the West end of Balboa Island for many years. This was when I was a kid. I used to sail by her in my Snowbird and dream of taking her to the South Seas. "Dreamer" had that "Yar" look with her gaff rig, pin rails and beautiful sweeping sheer! In the 1950's she was moved to a slip behind the Anchor Cove Bar on PCH that was on the property that was later occupied by the Rusty Pelican Restaurant. I entertained at the Anchor Cove, early in my singing career and some of the regulars and I would retire to the cabin of "Dreamer" after closing time. One nite, as we stepped aboard, Ernie Orchard who was famous for consuming copious amounts of liquor and climbing schooner masts and boat yard cranes, came hurtling down in the dark from the main cross trees! He plunged feet first into the water between the hull and the finger dock! I swear, by Father Neptune, he had only a few inches of clearance between "Dreamer" and that dock finger! Ernie, either was fearless or crazy, I never figured it out! However, I do know that he died of natural causes involving his liver.
    Jay
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Greer View Post
    Here is a shot taken of Schooner Row in Newport Beach Ca back in 1948.
    Some of the famous boats that can be seen here are:
    "Goodwill, Puritan, Vega and Lucky Star". Schooner row was located on the property that became the Balboa Bay Club. Lido Island is across the bay from it. There were a lot of houses there back then.
    Sorry, about the small size, the picture is as large as I could make it.
    Jay
    Hi Jay, the schooner "Lucky Star" is it this one...YYM5_120.jpg

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    Yes, "Lucky Star" is an Edson B. Schock design and belongs to Brad Downey unless he has sold her. She is one sweet schooner boat! We used to race her with Jerry Hampton's "Wanderlure II", an Alden boat. Sometimes Brad would win and other times we would. In a blow the Shock boat is faster as she is longer on the water line. But in light airs Wonderwagon could ghost ahead of her! Jerry had a special mix of light grey topside paint that Brad attempted to match for many years. After Brad painted the Star's top sides, Jerry would sneak in the yard the night before her launching and put a finger print of his paint on the stem. Brad's color never matched Jerry's.
    Jay

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Greer View Post
    Yes, "Lucky Star" is an Edson B. Schock design and belongs to Brad Downey unless he has sold her. She is one sweet schooner boat! We used to race her with Jerry Hampton's "Wanderlure II", an Alden boat. Sometimes Brad would win and other times we would. In a blow the Shock boat is faster as she is longer on the water line. But in light airs Wonderwagon could ghost ahead of her! Jerry had a special mix of light grey topside paint that Brad attempted to match for many years. After Brad painted the Star's top sides, Jerry would sneak in the yard the night before her launching and put a finger print of his paint on the stem. Brad's color never matched Jerry's.
    Jay
    Wow Jay, do you have any pictures of Lucky Star ?

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    Yes I have pictures but they are not accessible right now.
    Jay

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    Here are a couple of pictures of LUCKY STAR and MARTHA racing off Victoria, BC a few years back.
    CRISR 2008 Lucky Star and Martha.jpgCRISR 2008 Lucky Star and the Olympic Mountains.jpg

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    Here is the only shot I have of "Wanderlure II" that is with me at this time! That is when Hank Hill, owned her. She had a black hull then. Jerry Hampton painted her light grey, after he got her. That color change improved her looks a whole lot! And started Brad Downey on a quest to get the formula for "Lucky Star" "See how she scoons!" with her staysl rig. She began life as a gaff rigger but Hank Hill changed her to staysl rig thereby improving her up wind sailing abilty a whole bunch!
    Jay

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    Yep, we could always spot "Lucky Star" by that bright blue" Advance" Brad flew. I think Skip Elliott made it for him. "Wanderlure II" had an amazing variety of light kites that Skip made up for Jerry Hampton aka "Toad". One of his favorites was a low cut filler baloney we set under the immense gollywobbler. Jerry called that kite the "Japsail". It was red on white, a big red sun ball with radiating rays. It was a beautiful sail And really worked well as it filled in a hole in the wind.
    We would often show up for a race looking like a party boat with girls in bikinis on deck, beer cans in hand, and loud rock music playing on speakers Jerry had rigged on the coach roof. We would have working sails badly sheeted and we looked like a bunch of "Yahoos" as we approached the start. Then, just before the gun went off and crossing the line, the beer cans disappeared, sails were sheeted in, in a snap, and all went serious as we crossed the line on the favored end of the line and the fencing match with "Lucky Star" began! Gawd we loved it!
    Jay

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