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    i'm even less likely than kat to be caught anywhere near a walmart
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    fairy enuf
    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    Looks like a fun drive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Dryfoot View Post
    Pushrods?
    forever
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    There's about to be a Corvair resurrection in the Great White North...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Hoppe View Post
    2017 Dodge Challengers with Hemi V-8, leather seats here are being pushed at a bargains below 30k.

    HUGE (as in bigly) diff between a Challenger & a Charger.

    Fun car Kat!
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    Quicker to 60 than a '65 427 Cobra

    Well done!

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    Must be fun in snow!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katherine View Post
    2017 Dodge Charger


    Powertrain
    Engine V8, HEMI, 6.4 Liter
    Horsepower 485 @ 6100 RPM
    Torque 475 @ 4100 RPM
    Fuel Economy City 15/Hwy 25/Comb 18 MPG
    Bore x Stroke 4.09 x 3.72
    Compression Ratio 10.9
    Fuel Type Gas
    Fuel Induction Sequential Fuel Injection
    Valve Train Overhead Valve
    Valves Per Cylinder 2
    Total Number Valves 16
    Transmission Automatic, 8-Spd w/AutoStick
    Drivetrain RWD

    Attachment 5283
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    Daytona trim.

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    Is Paul a good passenger?

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    Imagine how good that'd be if you could pull some lard out of it? 4,400 lbs - and I'm assuming base kerb weight means that's dry? My old Jensen Interceptor gave me the heebies at times... and it was "only" 4,030 lbs.

    I do like the homage vehicles.... but it's time to stop paying homage to the engine design first patented in 1896, isn't it?

    I know side-valves persisted a long time after OHV came onto the scene.... but isn't it time to recognise the advantages of OHC engines? They started taking over only 6 years after the first pushrods were getting bent.

    That lazy stump-pulling power is nice, but really.... smaller capacity, higher revving, less weight. It's the future

    "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome and charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime" Mark Twain... so... Carpe the living sh!t out of the Diem

    I'd rather look back at my life and say "I can't believe I did that" instead of being there saying "I wish I'd done that"

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    C'mon, now, Bigfella. All that 'lazy stump-pulling power' is a good thing when you put four beer-bellied, burger-fed Bubbas in thet there car. It takes a lot of torque to overcome the Bubba-nertia. <wink, grin>
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmd View Post
    C'mon, now, Bigfella. All that 'lazy stump-pulling power' is a good thing when you put four beer-bellied, burger-fed Bubbas in thet there car. It takes a lot of torque to overcome the Bubba-nertia. <wink, grin>
    You sayin' Paul's a Bubba?
    "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome and charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime" Mark Twain... so... Carpe the living sh!t out of the Diem

    I'd rather look back at my life and say "I can't believe I did that" instead of being there saying "I wish I'd done that"

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    Nope. I'm jus' 'splainin' a reason for the North American love affair with pushrod grunt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmd View Post
    Nope. I'm jus' 'splainin' a reason for the North American love affair with pushrod grunt.
    I've been developing an affection for diesel grunt
    "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome and charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime" Mark Twain... so... Carpe the living sh!t out of the Diem

    I'd rather look back at my life and say "I can't believe I did that" instead of being there saying "I wish I'd done that"

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    Well, yeah, there's that. But the Bubbas 'round here are spoiling the brand by thinking that the bestest diesel is the blackest, smokiest diesel.
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    Well, I&rsquo;m sure you deserve it! Enjoy the heck out of it.

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    Serendipity. . .
    missed it by this much!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bigfella View Post
    but really.... smaller capacity, higher revving, less weight. It's the future
    the future is electric
    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bigfella View Post
    Imagine how good that'd be if you could pull some lard out of it? 4,400 lbs - and I'm assuming base kerb weight means that's dry? My old Jensen Interceptor gave me the heebies at times... and it was "only" 4,030 lbs.

    I do like the homage vehicles.... but it's time to stop paying homage to the engine design first patented in 1896, isn't it?

    I know side-valves persisted a long time after OHV came onto the scene.... but isn't it time to recognise the advantages of OHC engines? They started taking over only 6 years after the first pushrods were getting bent.

    That lazy stump-pulling power is nice, but really.... smaller capacity, higher revving, less weight. It's the future

    Overhead cams are nice. BUT.... the cam chains are LONG are often require service to keep from eating the engine. (And timing belts require even more frequent service.) The cam chain on a pushrod is VERY short, and thus is usually good for the life of the engine. Pushrod heads are also compact, and light, which gives a lower engine CG, which matters. Add some titanium pushrods and rocker arms, and the valve train is light enough for 8000 rpm. Add a supercharger and it breathes as well as 4 valve heads. Don't get me wrong, but GM and Chrysler were capable of building OHC V8s many years ago, just like they have for their V6s. But there were good reasons for them keeping pushrods on the V8s. GM has made advances in cam chain design durability and noise on their "high feature" V6, which I think will be very helpful for any upcoming 4 cam V8.
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    [QUOTE=The Bigfella;5385964].... but isn't it time to recognise the advantages of OHC engines? They started taking over only 6 years after the first pushrods were getting bent.

    That lazy stump-pulling power is nice, but really.... smaller capacity, higher revving, less weight. It's the future


    How about a nice Mustang with the Voodoo engine?

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    Katherine, myself,and our pet Rottweiler bitch ****head, just did 2000 miles in the Charger in three days on all types of roads in both wet and dry weather and the car was just flawless. Exceeded all expectations. Comfortable, fast, surefooted.
    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    Nice safe hi-vis color too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bigfella View Post
    I've been developing an affection for diesel grunt
    I'm with ya!
    Clean 4 cylinder 2 liter turbo diesel. Just drove one 320 miles in just over 4 hours today. 40mpg for the trip. Saw 115mph a couple times.
    Love the grunt of compression ignition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianW View Post
    Nice safe hi-vis color too!
    the color is great on this car, i should mention the sound too
    great v8 rumble at idle turning into quite a bark whenever the throttle is dipped in to
    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    That's a pretty good road test! Glad you're liking the car.
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    Good for you, Kat. A friend has a two or three year old Charger and he loves it. Sounds like it's a good fit for your family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    Katherine, myself,and our pet Rottweiler bitch ****head, just did 2000 miles in the Charger in three days on all types of roads in both wet and dry weather and the car was just flawless. Exceeded all expectations. Comfortable, fast, surefooted.
    That's a bit terse, go on burn some more words, Tel us about the roads, the food, the interesting people, and any boats you encountered.

    Pictures are good too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    the color is great on this car, i should mention the sound too
    great v8 rumble at idle turning into quite a bark whenever the throttle is dipped in to
    They sound fantastic! My neighbor has a Challenger and it purrs just like a V8 should.
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    Hmmmm... an automatic? Can you even BUY this car, with a stick?
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    It's not your daddy's slushbox.
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    Does it have a special "press here to pop the clutch and smoke the tires" button?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    It's not your daddy's slushbox.
    Perhaps not... and there's no question that these days, well designed automatics are very good....

    ...but then again, there's an art, science, and tradition to driving a manual shift car. I've never personally owned an automatic, myself... and take a certain amount of pride in being able to 'stick shift' it pretty well.

    Maybe the automatic in a 2017 muscle car is just fine... but would you want a classic sports car with one?
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    Would you want a classic with one.... Norm, it appears that LOTS of people do.

    Just as a fun little exploration/expirement, search your local craigslist for cars and limit the model years to a range of something like 1955-1975 with a minimum cost of $10k to weed-out the basketcases. Give it a quick browse, and then go back and add manual transmission to the search filter. My prediction is that the returns are reduced by two thirds. A LOT of those old cars have been converted to auto trans.
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