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    My name is Marcel. I'm building a Wharram design Tiki 38 double canoe. I will post links to my videos on YouTube here in this thread. I am a novice builder and I am very grateful for your advice and comments.
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    In this video several sheets of Bruynzeel Hechthout 18mm and 10mm and some hardboard were delivered. I also picked up a Festool CTH 26 E/a vacuum cleaner and used it to clean the workplace. After the cleaning I put 9 sheets of Bruynzeel Hechthout 10mm on the floor, creating a so called lofting floor in preparation for probably this upcoming saturday. On saturday I will start drawing out the backbone lines of the boat.
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    In this video I have started drawing the backbone lines on the lofting floor. Mainly the building floor line and base line. My friend Younes also visited today, which was very nice.
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    In this video I continued work on drawing the backbone lines on the lofting floor. I finished drawing 7 station lines. I also got some very good assistance from my son Louissanto. Thank you Louissanto
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    In this video I unpack some tools and epoxy materials. I cleaned the workplace floor, because after several days it is needed, you can't really see it on the video, but there is some sand, dust, twigs and parts of leaves on the floor. After that I continued drawing the backbone lines. For me it's a very slow process, because it's all new for me and I want to get it right. In the process of drawing I discovered that one of my station lines was off 10mm. I have redrawn this station line and checked and measured everything again. All the lines are drawn except for the curved lines for which I need to nail down a batten. I will do this next time and then proceed with drawing the lines again on sheets of hardboard.
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    In this video I nailed down pieces of hardboard on the lofting floor and drew the same lines again. Oregon pine wood was delivered and the neighbour came to visit with 3 little girls to look at my project. I gave them an explanation and told them that they are always welcome to visit and see the progress of the build. I also followed the advice of Ricardo who commented to my video on the Wharram Builders and Friends forum that I should buy some knee protection. I bought a high quality pair of trousers which has special pockets for knee pads. It was well spent, because today I did a lot of drawing on my knees and there will be much more to come.
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    Default Re: Building SV Satoshi - Wharram Tiki 38

    Thank you for sharing your build! Good luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianMCarney View Post
    Thank you for sharing your build! Good luck!
    Thank you very much Brian.
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    In this video you can see that I started with cleaning up and reorganising of the workspace. Change the position of the lights, setup of the table, taped some cables on the floor so I don't trip over it and some other things. I put 2 of the drawings on the wall so I don't have to bend over to look at the floor for measurements. Then I spend most of the day getting used to the power tools that I have (a sander, a jigsaw, planer and drill). I am a novice builder, and actually novice DIY, so I have to learn a lot. Made some 19mmx32mm battens from the rough oregon pine.

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    Default Re: Building SV Satoshi - Wharram Tiki 38

    You sure are tidy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wizbang 13 View Post
    You sure are tidy!
    Hahaha, yes, sometimes I think me as a novice building this Tiki 38 must be entertainment or horror to see for experienced boatbuilders.
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    In this video I took the drawings off the wall, because the hardboard warped, but also for the reason that I want to be able to take the drawings with me to any place. Stewart from LuckyFish channel ( https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkH...cqUOkQZqkelyPg ) sent me beautiful photos of his Tiki 38 and I am going to put these photos on the walls of my workspace. He has sent them to me to keep me inspired. That was very nice and thoughtful of him. After that I used the long batten that I made the day before to draw the curved lines on the lofting floor. You can see I compared the curved lines to the straight lines that I already drew between the station points on the lofting floor. I think now I can cut the parts out of the hardboard, cut a bit outside the lines and I guess sand it to the lines. I wanted to cut the parts out of the hardboard, but I decided to think another day about it. So then I started cutting 19mm x 45mm oregon pine again. I am happy to have received much advice and suggestions. Most of the advice I am going to try to implement in the next weeks. One advice is of Sailing Unsanity is that though it is possible to build the Wharram Tiki 38 with the power tools that I already have, it is much more precise and efficient to use bigger tools (table saw, band saw, compound miter saw, table planer, upright belt/disk sander). I am looking into that right now. In another post on the Wharram Builders and Friends forum Axel mentioned a book named: The Gougeon Brothers on Boat Construction (free PDF download at: http://www.westsystem.com/the-gougeo...-construction/ ). I have downloaded this book and am going to read it. Another book that I recently bought and am reading is: Boatbuilding Manual by Robert M. Steward, Carl Cramer. I am also going to look into buying a bandsaw, which is according to a very nice comment by Roderick Anderson is his most indispensable tool in his workshop. Temperature in the workspace is at the moment around 10 degrees Celsius. The package of the West System epoxy says store above 10 degrees, so I have to make special insulated case with lightbulb for this or I am just going to keep my separate 6 square meters epoxy room above 10 degrees.


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    Default Re: Building SV Satoshi - Wharram Tiki 38

    Looks like you have Cadillac tools to build a Chevy!

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    Default Re: Building SV Satoshi - Wharram Tiki 38

    I use a string of “Christmas” lights to keep my epoxy warm. It lives in a little foam open front cabinet and the lights are draped in the box and all around the bottles.

    I use lights on my citrus trees during freezes, too.

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    Hello Robert,
    That's an interesting way. I am going to look into that. Maybe also an option for me. Thank you for the suggestion



    Quote Originally Posted by amish rob View Post
    I use a string of “Christmas” lights to keep my epoxy warm. It lives in a little foam open front cabinet and the lights are draped in the box and all around the bottles.

    I use lights on my citrus trees during freezes, too.

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    This video starts with a picture of me and my friend Nick, who visited my workspace. After that we went to Noordwijk to take his fireball and laser off the beach in preparation for winter. The next day I proceeded with planing one long straight 4 meter batten. After that I cut out a pattern from the first piece of hardboard that is on the lofting floor. After sawing and sanding it straight I discovered that despite many checks and measurements I somehow did not see a wrong measurement, so the pattern was not right and you can see that in the video. So... I took a new piece of hardboard, drew the lines again, cut it out again and now it is right. My son supported me during this process. I have put the picture of Luckyfish that Stewart and Zaya have sent to me ( https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkH...cqUOkQZqkelyPg ) in a frame and put it in the workspace for motivation and inspiration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by svsatoshi View Post
    Hello Robert,
    That's an interesting way. I am going to look into that. Maybe also an option for me. Thank you for the suggestion
    Oh, you are most welcome. Belgium is one place I’d like to go, if only to try and meet my favorite flahute, DeVlaeminck.

    This is a fantastic project, by the by. Lovely vessel.

    Good luck and much fun.

    Peace,
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    Best Wishes !!!!



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    Thank you George.


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    In this video I cut another backbone pattern out of hardboard. This was a short 1 hour work session after dinner. I am going to buy other safety glasses which totally cover my eyes, because with my current ones small dust constantly goes into my eyes.


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    In this video I did a long building session on sunday. I only briefly stopped for a delicious thai lunch. I finished the hardboard backbone patterns and later cut out one part out of 18mm Bruynzeel Hechthout multiplex. These 18mm sheets are heavy to handle alone. And I also planed again 2 long battens for later use. I just try to do a few every building session. The temperature was around 10 degrees inside the work space. I had 60s music on and I really enjoyed this building session.


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    In this video on this day I stopped at my workspace on the way to the funeral service of the uncle of my father. I moved the Bruynzeel Hechthout multiplex sheets and the planed oregon pine to one of the smaller rooms, because that room is kept at a constant temperature and humidity level. I want to take care of my stock of wood and that is not possible in the main space where the temperature at the moment is getting too low and humidity level too high.
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    In this video I continued cutting backbone parts out of 18mm Bruynzeel Hechthout multiplex.
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    In this video I again am cutting backbone parts out of 18mm Bruynzeel Hechthout multiplex. Now there are only 2 parts (4 pieces) that I still need to cut, and then I will start with gluing them together.
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    Looks like its going to be a lovely boat. A LOT of work ahead of you. Good patience and good fortune to you

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    In this video I am cutting the skeg and keel doubler out of 9mm Bruynzeel Hechthout multiplex plywood. After that, for the first time, together with Younes we did a test experiment with epoxy.
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    I see a well built boat in your future !

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    Default Re: Building SV Satoshi - Wharram Tiki 38

    Thank you Geftb
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    Looks like its going to be a lovely boat. A LOT of work ahead of you. Good patience and good fortune to you
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    Thank you for your encouragement wizbang13

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    In this video I continue with getting used to working with epoxy. In the previous video I used epoxy for the first time, so when I came back the next day I wanted to see how and if I could clean the tools that I used, I also wanted to see if the epoxy cured well. I also coated several other small pieces of plywood to test other things on (like for example sanding or multiple coats). I really want to start with putting the backbone together, but I am first going to work a bit more with test pieces. Apart from that, the temperature in the main room of my working space is now almost below 10 degrees and in the next months it is only getting colder and often more humid. So I might have to postpone putting the backbone together until the temperature and humidity is more suitable. If that would be the case, I know how to keep busy and warm... I have to saw, joint, plane many long battens out of the planks of wood that I have. I am looking at a machine, the Holzstar UMK 6 for this purpose.
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    In this video I am making a box for the storage of the epoxy at a temperature of around 20 degrees celcius. After that I continue with my epoxy experiments. I sanded some test pieces with 80 grit sandpaper. I was quite surprised about how much of the coating was removed. I am wondering if this is normal or am I sanding too much before applying a new coat?
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    Yea, I think too much sanding.
    You do not really need to sand it at all, just wash it between coats with water to remove the "blush"(greasy film that floats to the top).
    A light sanding is good to knock down dust that has landed on wet epoxy, I see a lack of dust in your shop.
    You can save most of the sanding for after the dukee is built up .
    You may be able to apply much more resin per coat,I see the weave is hardly filled in the fg tape.
    Can you get the white rubber (Thalco), squeegees ? They are far superior than the plastic yellow ones. They can save a fortune on rollers and brushes by the time you launch. They can be sanded, where the yellow ones sort of melt when sanded.

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    Default Re: Building SV Satoshi - Wharram Tiki 38

    Hello Wizbang 13,
    I am going to order the Thalco squeegees. Thank you for the advice.
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    In this video, which has footage of 2 weekend days, you can see that I continued with various epoxy tests. I also discovered that I am working with the 206 hardener (minimum temperature 15 degrees celcius), while I actually bought and intended to use the 205 hardener (minimum temperature 5 degrees celcius). When the epoxy supplies were delivered I did not notice it. So I have placed another order for the 205 hardener. I am still not done with my epoxy testing. The epoxy warming box that I made last week works a bit too good. The temperature was about 32 degrees celcius. I changed the lightbulb to a 43 watt and now the temperature inside the box stays between 20 and 25 degrees celcius. After that I have built a tent inside my workspace. This is also a test. In the main (large) room my workspace the temperature is currently around 5 degrees celcius and the humidity level is usually somewhere between 70% and 85%. I did this test with the tent to see if I can use the tent to cover parts of the project and bring the temperature inside the tent up to 17 degrees celcius and 60% humidity. Inside the tent there is a small heater with thermostat and a dehumidifier. I am able to get it up to the temperature and humidity values that I want in 15 to 30 minutes and after that the heater and dehumidifier are not running continuous, only when the temperature of humidity gets out of the preferred range. The tent is obviously not large enough so I am not sure if or how I am going to use this tent in the future. Maybe only for building the lower part of the hulls.
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