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    Quote Originally Posted by CWSmith View Post
    OK.



    There is nothing leading about that. It is very direct.

    Answer the question, Phillip.
    it's a false choice... it's not gun owners...

    it's the US Constitution Vs. ...we all have a right to voice an opinion?

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    The NRA is just covering it's backside having read a bit of a change in the electorate's mood. But they still own the legislature and nothing meaningful will happen, I have no doubt the mechanism will still be easily available to anyone who looks.

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    Has the NRA lost it's collective mind? Don't they realize that if they go along with outlawing the bump stock that 22 target pistols will be next?

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    Congress didn't make the bump stock determination. It was the ATF that decided it was a part not a firearm and therefore not regulated. They don't actually need a new law to forbid them. All ATF has to do is change their determination.
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    ^ Congress didn't think so, for some godforsaken reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillip Allen View Post
    you will never be satisfied with any answer... that is why I think you are untrustworthy
    I guess you know more about your answer than I can ever know because it's been over 18 hours since I asked and you still avoid answering the question.

    Answer the question, Phillip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWSmith View Post
    I guess you know more about your answer than I can ever know because it's been over 18 hours since I asked and you still avoid answering the question.

    Answer the question, Phillip.
    I DID answer it... it just wasn't the answer you wanted
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillip Allen View Post
    I DID answer it... it just wasn't the answer you wanted
    No, you avoided answering the question and chose to insult me by calling me "untrustworthy" instead.

    Answer the question, Phillip.

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    Post #41 is not an answer it's an excuse for NOT answering it Phillip!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Jones View Post
    NRA might be open to new regulations, but not actual laws banning these slaughter devices. If it becomes a bill, expect the GOP to load it full of poison pill amendments that will make it very unpleasant for Democrats to support. Never expect the GOP to do something good for humanity just for the sake of doing the right thing.
    This is the key. They are NOT approving of the bill as written which would be a ban on the devices. The NRA is proposing a review and regulation which implies the devices would still be legal and available, just regulated.

    Jack - keep on talking up the belt loops. All you need to do is to show that semi-automatic firearms without modification can be bump-fired to provide rates of fire like a fully automatic firearm and you'll have them banned or "regulated", too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CWSmith View Post
    No, you avoided answering the question and chose to insult me by calling me "untrustworthy" instead.

    Answer the question, Phillip.
    Why even bother? His track record speaks for itself.
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    lets try this again... have your opinion if you want...

    the only other answer you have allowed is what I would call a gun nut... not even necessarily educated on the topic

    poor choices at best if you want to write law

    Jamie's post reference #41
    Quote Originally Posted by CWSmith View Post
    I guess you know more about your answer than I can ever know because it's been over 18 hours since I asked and you still avoid answering the question.

    Answer the question, Phillip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillip Allen View Post
    lets try this again... have your opinion if you want...
    It is so gracious and generous of you to allow me to have my opinion. However, you should know that I will have it regardless of your permission to do so.

    the only other answer you have allowed is what I would call a gun nut... not even necessarily educated on the topic
    I have allowed any answer that truly is a direct answer to the question, but in over 21 hours you have provided none. Whether I am educated on any topic is irrelevant. The only thing that is relevant is whether you will answer the question.

    poor choices at best if you want to write law
    I don't write law. I vote. That ability to vote gets to the heart of my question.

    Jamie's post reference #41
    I am not Jamie and neither are you. However, you should appreciate that people are reading these posts and observing that you are unwilling to answer this simple question:

    Quote Originally Posted by CWSmith View Post
    Phillip, should gun laws be decided only by avid gun owners, or do we all have a right to voice an opinion?
    Answer the question, Phillip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillip Allen View Post
    lets try this again... have your opinion if you want...

    the only other answer you have allowed is what I would call a gun nut... not even necessarily educated on the topic

    poor choices at best if you want to write law

    Jamie's post reference #41
    Your post was copied in post #41. Never even saw an answer to CW's query by you so couldn't copy it. I'm guessing you didn't answer it, just posted an excuse for NOT doing so. As someone else posted you have a track record of NOT answering questions.

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    I have concluded that Dunning-Kruger, while extremely debilitating, isn't fatal. NO ONE could survive a case like this if it were lethal.

    LMAO
    "Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." - Alice

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWSmith View Post
    It is so gracious and generous of you to allow me to have my opinion. However, you should know that I will have it regardless of your permission to do so.



    I have allowed any answer that truly is a direct answer to the question, but in over 21 hours you have provided none. Whether I am educated on any topic is irrelevant. The only thing that is relevant is whether you will answer the question.



    I don't write law. I vote. That ability to vote gets to the heart of my question.



    I am not Jamie and neither are you. However, you should appreciate that people are reading these posts and observing that you are unwilling to answer this simple question:



    Answer the question, Phillip.
    either a random opinion or a gun nut? educate please

    okay... you can have the last word/accusation now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillip Allen View Post
    either a random opinion or a gun nut? educate please
    Who is the gun nut? I don't start a reloading thread every time people talk about gun laws.

    Educate me? Educate you? What are you saying?

    okay... you can have the last word/accusation now
    I don't want the last word. No accusation. Just a simple request.

    Answer the question, Phillip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John of Phoenix View Post
    I have concluded that Dunning-Kruger, while extremely debilitating, isn't fatal. NO ONE could survive a case like this if it were lethal.

    LMAO
    Word!

    What are you doing about it?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Orca View Post
    Word!
    HA, the LAST word!
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    ^ Hah!

    oops! (-;

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