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    Is this an attempt to put Trump between a rock and a hard place?..

    The House approved a bipartisan measure Tuesday evening that "rejects white nationalism, white supremacy, and neo-Nazism as hateful expressions of intolerance that are contradictory to the values that define the people of the United States" and urges President Trump to "speak out against hate groups." The Senate approved it Monday evening.

    The big picture: Such gestures are typically symbolic, but the Charlottesville measure is a joint resolution. With a signature, the president would officially condemn hate groups — a move he made only halfheartedly in the days after Charlottesville. He'd also be labeling Heather Heyer's death a "domestic terror attack," per the language in the resolution.


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    so, since this is a "symbolic gesture", is this not just another example of our congress wasting time and doing nothing? did we really need to take time to "officially denounce" the nazis?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanMc View Post
    did we really need to take time to "officially denounce" the nazis?
    It's better than turning a blind eye, yes?



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    so b/c some loony white national thinks his delusions are ok, we should not pend time working on bills that need to be passed and should instead be focused on symbolic gestures that do nothing?

    with their current 14-16% approval ratings, i would think they'd try do do SOMETHING instead of wasting time and doing NOTHING. how much time did we have to waste putting together a bipartisan empty gesture of feel-goodism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanMc View Post
    so b/c some loony white national thinks his delusions are ok, we should not pend time working on bills that need to be passed and should instead be focused on symbolic gestures that do nothing?

    with their current 14-16% approval ratings, i would think they'd try do do SOMETHING instead of wasting time and doing NOTHING. how much time did we have to waste putting together a bipartisan empty gesture of feel-goodism?
    Well, now that you've elected a loony white nationalist to the White House, yes.

    Yes we should DEFINITELY make the effort to publicly censure that POS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanMc View Post
    so, since this is a "symbolic gesture", is this not just another example of our congress wasting time and doing nothing? did we really need to take time to "officially denounce" the nazis?
    It's a backhanded denunciation of Donald Trump, which we badly need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oznabrag View Post
    Well, now that you've elected a loony white nationalist to the White House, yes.

    Yes we should DEFINITELY make the effort to publicly censure that POS.

    so you need a worthless gesture to sooth your irrational fears. well, if it makes you feel better...

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    so you need a worthless gesture to sooth your irrational fears. well, if it makes you feel better...
    Pretty much ALL the fears associated with your Sleazy Jesus are rational.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanMc View Post
    so b/c some loony white national thinks his delusions are ok, we should not pend time working on bills that need to be passed and should instead be focused on symbolic gestures that do nothing?

    with their current 14-16% approval ratings, i would think they'd try do do SOMETHING instead of wasting time and doing NOTHING. how much time did we have to waste putting together a bipartisan empty gesture of feel-goodism?
    Well, if you really think that denouncing the sort of people that our fathers generation fought a war against is a waste of time, then I have to question your thinking processes.
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    The TRMP said they won't commit to signing it at this time.

    It's a simple test for a simple "man" and his simple supporters. Do you support Nazism, white nationalism and their domestic terrorist violence or not?

    That they need a moment to consider it, is an answer... and it will be on the record.
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    That he needs any time whatsoever to "consider" it is despicable.
    A society predicated on the assumption that everyone in it should want to get rich is not well situated to become either ethical or imaginative.

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    Default Re: Congress and Senate Send Anti-Nazi Resolution To Trump

    heck, he shouldn't even READ IT. just sign it. bc nazis n stuff.

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    Too many big words - someone would need to read it to him... besides, he's too busy looting the country to worry about anything else.
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    Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives
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    of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
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    That Congress—

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    (1) condemns the racist violence and domestic
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    terrorist attack that took place between August 11
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    and August 12, 2017, in Charlottesville, Virginia;
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    (2) recognizes—
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    (A) Heather Heyer, who was killed, and 19
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    other individuals who were injured in the re-
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    ported domestic terrorist attack; and
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    (B) several other individuals who were in-
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    jured in separate attacks while standing up to
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    hate and intolerance;
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    (3) recognizes the public service and heroism of
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    Virginia State Police officers Lieutenant H. Jay
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    Cullen and Trooper Pilot Berke M.M. Bates, who
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    lost their lives while responding to the events from
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    the air;
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    (4) offers—
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    (A) condolences to the families and friends
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    of Heather Heyer, Lieutenant H. Jay Cullen,
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    and Trooper Pilot Berke M.M. Bates; and
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    (B) sympathy and support to those individ-
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    uals who are recovering from injuries sustained
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    during the attacks;
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    (5) expresses support for the Charlottesville
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    community as the community heals following this
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    demonstration of violent bigotry;
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    (6) rejects White nationalism, White suprem-
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    acy, and neo-Nazism as hateful expressions of intol-
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    erance that are contradictory to the values that de-
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    fine the people of the United States; and
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    (7) urges—
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    (A) the President and his administration
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    to—
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    (i) speak out against hate groups that
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    espouse racism, extremism, xenophobia,
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    anti-Semitism, and White supremacy; and
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    (ii) use all resources available to the
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    President and the President’s Cabinet to
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    address the growing prevalence of those
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    hate groups in the United States; and
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    (B) the Attorney General to work with—
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    (i) the Secretary of Homeland Secu-
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    rity to investigate thoroughly all acts of vi-
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    olence, intimidation, and domestic ter-
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    rorism by White supremacists, White na-
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    tionalists, neo-Nazis, the Ku Klux Klan,
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    and associated groups in order to deter-
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    mine if any criminal laws have been vio-
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    lated and to prevent those groups from fo-
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    menting and facilitating additional vio-
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    lence; and
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    (ii) the heads of other Federal agen-
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    cies to improve the reporting of hate
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    crimes and to emphasize the importance of
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    the collection, and the reporting to the
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    Federal Bureau of Investigation, of hate
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    crime data by State and local agencies.



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    The swastika waving hoodlums and thugs of today are not the nazis of the 1930's. They shouldn't be garnering so much attention. It's mostly political theatre.
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    Someone needs to look up the word 'apologist'.
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    Default Re: Congress and Senate Send Anti-Nazi Resolution To Trump

    These neo-Nazis aren't the same as the ones our parents fought against 75 years ago, so we should leave them alone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdh View Post
    The swastika waving hoodlums and thugs of today are not the nazis of the 1930's. They shouldn't be garnering so much attention. It's mostly political theatre.
    Nonsense. They are wannabe 1930s Nazis, and all they need is the right leader to give them the encouragement and support they need. Oh wait???
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    This resolution is a further example of how the current president is simply not feared on the Hill. This puts him at odds with the worst of his base, whom he adores and cherishes. It is a way for the 'deep state' to further erode the ( shaky ) foundation he is standing on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanMc View Post
    so you need a worthless gesture to sooth your irrational fears. well, if it makes you feel better...
    Given I'm not Hispanic or Muslim I don't have an immediate fear but his attempts to censure scientists, disavow the Paris agreement, dismantle the EPA, cripple the state Dept. and generally undermine every institution that promotes the general welfare doesn't make me feel good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdh View Post
    The swastika waving hoodlums and thugs of today are not the nazis of the 1930's. They shouldn't be garnering so much attention. It's mostly political theatre.
    Big difference between 1930 and 1939. More attention in 1930 is what was called for. "Only" hoodlums and thugs, eh?
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    Payback for cutting a deal with Nancy and Chuck, basically Paul and Mitch saying screw us well we can screw with you too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdh View Post
    The swastika waving hoodlums and thugs of today are not the nazis of the 1930's. They shouldn't be garnering so much attention. It's mostly political theatre.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdh View Post
    The swastika waving hoodlums and thugs of today are not the nazis of the 1930's. They shouldn't be garnering so much attention. It's mostly political theatre.
    Bull****. There were plenty of nazi soldiers who had no idea that a final solution was developed and implemented. Every single one of America's nazis ascribe to every ideal that their Fuehrer had in mind.
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    An excellent move - make Trump commit, one way or the other. That he's hesitant should tell any True Patriot exactly what he stands for; and if that True Patriot supports that, that's a 'tell', as well.

    Make'em commit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twodot View Post
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    Yeah. A nationwide call amassed about as many as a hiliary book signing. Being as our congress just came off a six week vacation, they weren't in the groove to offer any real legislation, so they passed this resolution. Some people don't even vote.
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    Heard an opinion from a US constitutional lawyer this morning, he says that the 'myth' that there are processes to prevent an irrational Pres. from ordering a nuke strike are just that, a myth. The chain goes direct from the CinC to the military officers next in line.

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