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    Default WTF is the "Bilge Narrative"?

    Well . . .
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    Maybe you should PM the guy who came up with the concept. He's been asked publicly before to no avail. You know how reds are about questions and answers.
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    The narrative is Troglodytes live in caves and would love to drag everyone else into their dark damp caves and it pi$$es them off when we say hell no!

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    Bilge narrative:

    Boats...

    NO!! POLITICS!!

    Boats...

    NO!! POLITICS!!

    Boats...

    NO!! POLITICS!!

    Boats...


    ... repeat ad nauseum.
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    The sun was shining on the sea,
    Shining with all his might:
    He did his very best to make
    The billows smooth and bright--
    And this was odd, because it was
    The middle of the night.

    The moon was shining sulkily,
    Because she thought the sun
    Had got no business to be there
    After the day was done--
    “It’s very rude of him," she said,
    “To come and spoil the fun!”

    The sea was wet as wet could be,
    The sands were dry as dry.
    You could not see a cloud because
    No cloud was in the sky:
    No birds were flying overhead--
    There were no birds to fly.

    The Walrus and the Carpenter
    Were walking close at hand:
    They wept like anything to see
    Such quantities of sand:
    “If this were only cleared away,"
    They said, “it would be grand!”

    “If seven maids with seven mops
    Swept it for half a year,
    Do you suppose," the Walrus said,
    “That they could get it clear?”
    “I doubt it," said the Carpenter,
    And shed a bitter tear.

    “0 Oysters, come and walk with us!”
    The Walrus did beseech.
    “A pleasant walk, a pleasant talk,
    Along the briny beach:
    We cannot do with more than four,
    To give a hand to each.”

    The eldest Oyster looked at him,
    But never a word he said;
    The eldest Oyster winked his eye,
    And shook his heavy head--
    Meaning to say he did not choose
    To leave the oyster-bed.

    But four young Oysters hurried up,
    All eager for the treat:
    Their coats were brushed, their faces washed,
    Their shoes were clean and neat--
    And this was odd, because, you know,
    They hadn’t any feet.

    Four other Oysters followed them,
    And yet another four;
    And thick and fast they came at last,
    And more and more and more--
    All hopping through the frothy waves,
    And scrambling to the shore.

    The Walrus and the Carpenter
    Walked on a mile or so,
    And then they rested on a rock
    Conveniently low:
    And all the little Oysters stood
    And waited in a row.

    “The time has come," the Walrus said,
    “To talk of many things:
    Of shoes--and ships--and sealing-wax--
    Of cabbages--and kings--
    And why the sea is boiling hot--
    And whether pigs have wings.”

    “But wait a bit," the Oysters cried,
    “Before we have our chat;
    For some of us are out of breath,
    And all of us are fat!”
    “No hurry!” said the Carpenter.
    They thanked him much for that.

    “A loaf of bread," the Walrus said,
    “Is what we chiefly need:
    Pepper and vinegar besides
    Are very good indeed--
    Now, if you’re ready, Oysters dear,
    We can begin to feed.”

    “But not on us!” the Oysters cried,
    Turning a little blue.
    “After such kindness, that would be
    A dismal thing to do!”
    “The night is fine," the Walrus said,
    “Do you admire the view?

    “It was so kind of you to come!
    And you are very nice!”
    The Carpenter said nothing but
    “Cut us another slice.
    I wish you were not quite so deaf--
    I’ve had to ask you twice!”

    “It seems a shame," the Walrus said,
    “To play them such a trick.
    After we’ve brought them out so far,
    And made them trot so quick!”
    The Carpenter said nothing but
    “The butter’s spread too thick!”

    “I weep for you," the Walrus said:
    “I deeply sympathize.”
    With sobs and tears he sorted out
    Those of the largest size,
    Holding his pocket-handkerchief
    Before his streaming eyes.

    “0 Oysters," said the Carpenter,
    “You’ve had a pleasant run!
    Shall we be trotting home again?”
    But answer came there none--
    And this was scarcely odd, because
    They’d eaten every one.
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    what is the bilge narrative?
    Ask the usual suspects. They know stuff.

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    Tastes great!

    Less filling!

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    Hehe.

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    Much like the terms echo chamber and social media bubble it is hard to explain to someone who is in them what it looks like outside of them.

    From the red news site accumulator.

    http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechc...-be-a-solution

    RE the article, I dont think the technology is going to change any minds but the intro does a good job explaining political echo chamber.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmd View Post
    Bilge narrative:

    Boats...

    NO!! POLITICS!!

    Boats...

    NO!! POLITICS!!

    Boats...

    NO!! POLITICS!!

    Boats...


    ... repeat ad nauseum.
    Don't forget wooden stuff, and stuff. We now have some current science showing up daily. There's also all the alcohol pedandtry threads and a shirtload of music threads of various genre.

    Besides, it's not just politics, it's trmp and politics. It's special.


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    Quote Originally Posted by switters View Post
    Much like the terms echo chamber and social media bubble it is hard to explain to someone who is in them what it looks like outside of them.

    From the red news site accumulator.

    http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechc...-be-a-solution

    RE the article, I dont think the technology is going to change any minds but the intro does a good job explaining political echo chamber.
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    He's just begging for a snowflake! Isn't he?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SKIP KILPATRICK View Post
    He's just begging for a snowflake! Isn't he?
    Hilarious.
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    There have been plenty of good threads started, which sink without a trace in a half a day.
    So the threads that survive are trivial or political or quasi-religious? Well that's where the interest is.
    And if the majority of the posters are not religious or not RW then that's where the interest is. It's not a regulated debating society, it's an open forum (Scot permitting).
    Get over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Bow View Post
    Well . . .
    Lots of "b" words. Boats, beer, bacon,BBQ , braising, basting

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    Pilot boats, long overhangs, schooners and interminable brightwork is great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeG View Post
    Lots of "b" words. Boats, beer, bacon,BBQ , braising, basting
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    I remember when "The Bilge" was officially called "Miscellaneous Non-Boat Related."
    I sometimes wish we could remember the "Non-Boat Related" part. We have sufficient other areas for the boat-related.

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    CPES is crap!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by phiil View Post
    I remember when "The Bilge" was officially called "Miscellaneous Non-Boat Related."
    I sometimes wish we could remember the "Non-Boat Related" part. We have sufficient other areas for the boat-related.
    Well... yes.

    But people who aren't comfortable with, knowledgeable about, or obsessed with the 'controversial' topics, and probably should be more judicious about which threads they open, keep objecting to the Bilge being... bilgey.

    So they keep trying to leaven the 'muck' with injections of ever-popular boat content. Understandable, but dysfunctional (in a Trumpian, chaotic, way). It confuses the categories and leads new folks to thing the Bilge is the appropriate spot for their design questions, or suchlike.

    But to represent switters as accurately as possible - I don't think that's what he's referring to. I think he perceives a steady drumbeat of Liberals Uber Alles here. Also understandable, if not strictly true - as was already pointed out on both threads. It only seems that way if one is awash in a situation that is difficult for a conservative to defend - as we are now - and where both the facts, and the arc of history, are on the side of the libs at the moment.
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    I've got a p*nis amongst other things. Although I got to say mmd is on a roll as is Sibley with his cutter thread.

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    My only defense is that oft-used line when I attempted to encourage the USA-politics crowd to be less prolific:

    If you don't want to read about boats in The Bilge, just don't open those threads.

    What goes around, comes around, it seems... <wicked grin>
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmd View Post
    My only defense is that oft-used line when I attempted to encourage the USA-politics crowd to be less prolific:

    If you don't want to read about boats in The Bilge, just don't open those threads.

    What goes around, comes around, it seems... <wicked grin>
    Sorry... that defense is inadequate. It would work for me as a stopgap method. Until, that is, Scot gains more experience and wisdom and realizes he's chosen poorly by allowing boat content in the Bilge.

    But that's not all there is to it. Even if we never opened such a thread... we still open threads on politics and find you there proselytizing against such threads. Self-centeredly, stubbornly, and at length. So... 'just don't open those boat threads' is an inadequate answer. Just another grumpy old guy's attempt to rationalize why 'it should be MY way'. OTOH... since Scot made his misguided ruling, you'll very seldom find me on a bilge boat threat reminding all of phiiil's historical wisdom: the roots of the Bilge is "Misc. NON-BOAT".

    All the efforts to make it into "Misc. Boat Related" are doomed to failure anyway. You frequently lament how ubiquitous and popular the controversial stuff is, and how quickly your boat offerings sink to a muddy bottom. The people vote with their clicks. And, in this case, I'd say what he see as a result is 'The Wisdom of Crowds'. <wicked weasel grin>
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    Well, David, I guess that we will have to respectfully disagree on this. Until Scot decrees otherwise, I will continue to post pretty pictures - including those of boats - in The Bilge to provide a bit of light into the darker corners of the place. Some like that, others don't. As for the "self-centeredly, stubbornly, and at length" bit, well, I have always coveted membership in the O&O Club. Finally, I surmise that picture threads sink quickly because there is not a small group of familiar names that can be counted on to argue over them for pages and pages, unlike the political threads. Different audience, I guess.

    That said, I hope your day is a good one and that you are not suffering too much smokiness from the wildfires in your region.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David G View Post
    But to represent switters as accurately as possible - I don't think that's what he's referring to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeG View Post
    Lots of "b" words. Boats, beer, bacon,BBQ , braising, basting
    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Conway View Post
    Pilot boats, long overhangs, schooners and interminable brightwork is great.
    Quote Originally Posted by switters View Post
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    The Bilge walks into a room. There are heavy shadows cast from a bare, incandescent bulb hanging from a cord in the center of the room, giving the whole place a chiaroscuro vibe that puts The Bilge into a melancholy sort of mood. The Bilge notices the cat and bends to scratch her ears. The cat mews and begins purring, and proceeds to weave in and out of The Bilge's legs.

    The Bilge begins to prepare dinner, the cat following and continuing to snake between The Bilge's legs. The Bilge chops onions, carefully considering the day's events, when the phone rings, shattering the reverie.

    "Hello."
    "Bilge?"
    "Yeah."
    "We have a special, limited time offer..."

    The Bilge hangs up the phone and bends to pick up the cat. The phone rings again, but The Bilge lets the machine get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmd View Post
    Well, David, I guess that we will have to respectfully disagree on this. Until Scot decrees otherwise, I will continue to post pretty pictures - including those of boats - in The Bilge to provide a bit of light into the darker corners of the place. Some like that, others don't. As for the "self-centeredly, stubbornly, and at length" bit, well, I have always coveted membership in the O&O Club. Finally, I surmise that picture threads sink quickly because there is not a small group of familiar names that can be counted on to argue over them for pages and pages, unlike the political threads. Different audience, I guess.

    That said, I hope your day is a good one and that you are not suffering too much smokiness from the wildfires in your region.
    Yes... we will have to simply disagree about the bit you've addressed here. About the other aspect I mentioned, we will continue to wrangle, I reckon. And the very best of wishes to you and yours, as well.
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