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    Default Out with the old... in with the new

    This was the old:



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    When I first contemplated buying one of these, and posted the photo, nobody liked it.... which suits me, because it preserves my reputation as the holder of unpopular opinions

    No matter. Ergonomically, it fits me like a glove... just the right seating position and reach. I WILL, however, have to get used to the vibration... my old Magna, with it's V-4 engine, was silky smooth, whereas this thing, with its longitudinal twin, has vibration.... far less than a Harley, but more than the Magna.

    I'm exceptionally glad to get rid of carbs and chains... this thing is fuel-injected, with a shaft drive. 1300cc, lots of low end torque.
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    I'm not a motorcycle guy, but I think that's a great looking bike.
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    Is that a hardtail?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SKIP KILPATRICK View Post
    I'm not a motorcycle guy, but I think that's a great looking bike.
    Thanks! Maybe because you're NOT a motorcycle guy, is the reason you like it! The 'motorcycle guys' all have differing opinions, because there are so many different styles. I liked this one for a number of reasons, but visually, it's really 'clean'.... not a lot of detail, and adequate chrome (some bikes these days are getting away from chrome, and even getting away from glossy paint... some end up looking like army surplus, that way).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peerie Maa View Post
    Is that a hardtail?
    Definitely NOT... it's a single shock under the body work, with adjustable damping and pre-load... although the factory settings felt fine, to me.
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    Lots of stock rake in that compared to your prior bike, wow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerarddm View Post
    Lots of stock rake in that compared to your prior bike, wow.
    Yup... my wife's reaction, when I sent her the picture, was to ask, "You bought a CHOPPER?"

    Actually, Honda offers another bike... exact same engine and drivetrain, but with a much more severe front rake, called the 'Fury'. I tried it, it felt comfortable, but I wasn't crazy about the handling:

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    Norman,

    I ain't a cruiser guy, but I think you picked the perfect bike, Yo. After seeing you on the Magna, the mental image of you on any other type was wrong.

    I hope you get to take some nice rides, maybe to some places you can take pictures and post them for us...

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    For the record, I like the both the old bike and the new bike. I bought a new seven-fifty four Yamaha—in '85—with a very similar profle, also black (with gold highlights instead of chrome) with shaft-drive and alloy wheels (gold anodized). And in-line instead of V. Very fast and smooth and perfect riding position. Not mine but identical.



    The new one in the OP is fine-looking. If it was mine, I would think about a low-profile windscreen, for longer rides.

    It looks like the wheel base is longer. It also looks heavier and the seating somewhat more aft. Is that just the camera angle? Norman, does it feel different in the corners?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Mahan View Post
    For the record, I like the both the old bike and the new bike. I bought a new seven-fifty four Yamaha—in '85—with a very similar profle, also black (with gold highlights instead of chrome) with shaft-drive and alloy wheels (gold anodized). And in-line instead of V. Very fast and smooth and perfect riding position. Not mine but identical.



    The new one in the OP is fine-looking. If it was mine, I would think about a low-profile windscreen, for longer rides.

    It looks like the wheel base is longer. It also looks heavier and the seating somewhat more aft. Is that just the camera angle? Norman, does it feel different in the corners?


    Yes, the wheelbase is indeed longer. I had put forward foot controls on the Magna, so the new one feels about the same. The center of gravity on the new one is very low, so it actually feels even better, in the corners, despite the fact that it is more than 150 lbs heavier. This one will definitely feel better on the highway. I will have to get used to not having a tach, though... it will take a while to learn the torque curve.


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    Wow! Congrats. Not my style but what a frikking motor.
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    Nice bike.
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    Very nice, congratulations....... Is this one Fuel Injected?

    It looks very much like the Yamaha Raider my wife wants...... At 1900cc
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    Oops, just saw you did post as fuel Injected....... Gonna love that.....
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    The only thing that matters is if you like the bike, and how it makes you feel.

    Longer wheelbase bikes track better, but are not as quick to turn, IIRC. You may have to lean it over more in turns also! Enjoy and be safe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralphie Boy View Post
    The only thing that matters is if you like the bike, and how it makes you feel...
    'zactly! Congrats & I hope you enjoy the heck out of it. Bet it takes more garage space too...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralphie Boy View Post
    The only thing that matters is if you like the . . .
    justification for trump ad a whole lotta other right wing dingbattery
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    should that be dingbatteriness? dingbattedness??
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    Maybe you could contemplate it while finishing the bathroom.......
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    I could
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralphie Boy View Post
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    Longer wheelbase bikes track better, but are not as quick to turn, IIRC. You may have to lean it over more in turns also!.
    That was one of my concerns, before I test-drove it for the first time... and I was quite surprised. The test ride was about 5-7 miles south of the dealer, to sort of a 'rotary', not quite round, more oblong in shape, so it was more like a right turn and three left turns. Those turns felt terrific, and I think that it's really the much lower center of gravity that makes all the difference... despite the fact that the bike is so much heavier.
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    Norman, is it loud? Will you put pipes on it??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    Norman, is it loud? Will you put pipes on it??
    Hahaha... as you know, I like quiet bikes... but there's no question that the 'market' for bikes like this puts a high priority on what sort of sound it makes. I'd say that this bike has the appropriate V-twin 'rumble'... not too loud at all, but reasonably approximating what most owners want to hear. I found it to be not objectionable, at idle, nor while doing 50 mph. Yes, it's certainly louder than the Magna... but nothing that's going to piss off a any neighbors, trigger car alarms, or make babies cry

    And no, I will NOT be putting on any aftermarket pipes
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    Did you trade in the old girl?

    I always found it very hard to sell a bike.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by jack grebe View Post
    Did you trade in the old girl?

    I always found it very hard to sell a bike.......
    The last time I sold a bike, it went very quickly... but that was 16 years ago, and it was in the late spring. I put the bike on Craigslist, but got no nibbles whatsoever.

    I ended up trading it in... for about 60% of what I thought I could get for it, selling it privately. It just wasn't worth the hassle. Seeing as how I only do this every 16 years... and likely will NOT be doing it again unless I'm still riding at age 80.... I really didn't care, I just wanted to get the deal over with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norman Bernstein View Post

    This is the new:




    When I first contemplated buying one of these, and posted the photo, nobody liked it.... which suits me, because it preserves my reputation as the holder of unpopular opinions

    No matter. Ergonomically, it fits me like a glove... just the right seating position and reach. I WILL, however, have to get used to the vibration... my old Magna, with it's V-4 engine, was silky smooth, whereas this thing, with its longitudinal twin, has vibration.... far less than a Harley, but more than the Magna.

    I'm exceptionally glad to get rid of carbs and chains... this thing is fuel-injected, with a shaft drive. 1300cc, lots of low end torque.
    what a ride! that looks fun and has very fresh styling. Now we need to see the helmet, jacket, boots and gloves to style with it.
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    Late in the year for a new toy - get out and enjoy it before winter sets in.
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    Nice, Norm.
    "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome and charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime" Mark Twain... so... Carpe the living sh!t out of the Diem

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    The old girl will probably find a good home with one of the techs...... Looks in
    Great condition.....
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    The old girl will probably find a good home with one of the techs...... Looks in
    Great condition.....
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