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    Default Simmons Sea Skiff 18 in Missouri

    Hi all,
    I have started a new build of a Simmons 18. I'm currently in Missouri but the boat will end up in Bluffton or Daufuskie SC in a few years.
    I'm testing photo sharing so here is a shot of my work space to get started.
    [img]https://goo.gl/photos/bBCt8a8XxKU6RhMv7[/imgl]
    Last edited by figo; 08-30-2017 at 06:35 PM.

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    Default Re: Simmons Sea Skiff 18 in Missouri

    Can't get photos to show up, i read the FAQ but cant follow it. Any help? I want to get it working before proceeding.

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    Default Re: Simmons Sea Skiff 18 in Missouri

    Click at the photo then it should look somehow like this:



    Then right click the photo - copy, then paste into your post (works if you use google chrome).
    Last edited by flo-mo; 08-31-2017 at 03:57 AM.

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    Default Re: Simmons Sea Skiff 18 in Missouri

    Thanks, I'll give that a shot!

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    Default Re: Simmons Sea Skiff 18 in Missouri

    Strongback started
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/r0mbv2r9cm...40.12.jpg?dl=0


    Floors cut and set into slots in the strongback. I originally cut them from Doug Fir which had a surprisingly high moisture content so they shrank and warped. These are 7/8" Mahogony.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/9jjfwm684q...06.44.jpg?dl=0

    You can see the Lamination of the stem in the bottom of this picture 9 layers of White oak, I used Gflex epoxy.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/rqo3msw43k...07.07.jpg?dl=0
    Last edited by figo; 09-01-2017 at 11:42 AM.

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    Default Re: Simmons Sea Skiff 18 in Missouri

    Still cant get pictures to show in the post! got to be something simple.

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    Default Re: Simmons Sea Skiff 18 in Missouri







    figo
    [IMG]right click..."copy image address"...go to your post...right click"paste"[/IMG] Presto!!!
    Last edited by jackster; 08-31-2017 at 04:36 PM.

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    Default Re: Simmons Sea Skiff 18 in Missouri

    Doing this only pasts as a link, it does not show the image. I open the pictuer in google photos, right click, copy image address go to this post and paste,
    here is what I get.
    https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1Q...Ha4fnDxeW9LtqE
    if I put the img tag in;


    it's there but nothing at all shows up.

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    Default Re: Simmons Sea Skiff 18 in Missouri

    Yea, sorry figo, I probably didn't explain too well...
    First... go to the picture you want to include in your Post.
    Next... right click the pic and choose "copy image address".
    Then go to the Form post reply box and type... [IMG].
    Then right click and select "paste".
    Next type...[/IMG].
    That is what I do and, amazingly, it works.
    Cheers.

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    Default Re: Simmons Sea Skiff 18 in Missouri

    Simmons Sea Skiff build photos here:
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/vxuQDZI0Dz7qjzAx1

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    Default Re: Simmons Sea Skiff 18 in Missouri

    keel being attached:

    Transom mockup:
    Simmons Sea Skiff build photos here:
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    Default Re: Simmons Sea Skiff 18 in Missouri

    The Chine logs are white oak 7/8" thick, I had to make a quick scarf jig because I could not find any 16' stock



    Ready for epoxy

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    Default Re: Simmons Sea Skiff 18 in Missouri

    I have just about finished the Chines and Started scarffing plywood for the Garboard strakes. There's a whole lot of work for little visual progress!
    I did have one problem with a divit, for lack of a better term, in the Starboard chine where it butts the transom so I scabbed on some thin pieces and will need to fair that out.




    Last edited by figo; 09-19-2017 at 08:15 AM.
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    Default Re: Simmons Sea Skiff 18 in Missouri

    A little more progress, Garboards are on and I am starting to plank the bottom. I added a false floor to the forward side of #7 to carry the butt joint of the plank sections. I also made a quick little depth stop for a forstner bit to counter sink the bronze ring shank nails I'm using.





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    Default Re: Simmons Sea Skiff 18 in Missouri

    Very nice work
    WBF=DNC Annex

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    Default Re: Simmons Sea Skiff 18 in Missouri

    Yea, what erster said^ !
    We are watching and like the updates.
    Um... keep up the good work. love those boats.
    Cheers

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    Default Re: Simmons Sea Skiff 18 in Missouri

    Thanks guys, i'm wondering if anyone has a rough idea about how much epoxy it is going to take to wet out the glass? I am going to put a coat of thin on the ply first then a layer of 6 oz. fabric. I think I have a little over 3 quarts on hand.
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    Default Re: Simmons Sea Skiff 18 in Missouri

    Quote Originally Posted by figo View Post
    Thanks guys, i'm wondering if anyone has a rough idea about how much epoxy it is going to take to wet out the glass? I am going to put a coat of thin on the ply first then a layer of 6 oz. fabric. I think I have a little over 3 quarts on hand.
    Before you get to glassing order a 3 gallon kit from E Bond Epoxy. Talk to Barry. Their prices are as cheap as anyone in the business. Don't think that its too good to be true. And its used by commercial guys. . Its two to one. Don't get started before you have enough on hand. You will need it for your glued laps too. We do not use rivets or fastenera along the seams these days.
    http://ebondepoxies.com/?overture
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    Default Re: Simmons Sea Skiff 18 in Missouri

    Thanks erster! I'll do that!
    Simmons Sea Skiff build photos here:
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/vxuQDZI0Dz7qjzAx1

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    Default Re: Simmons Sea Skiff 18 in Missouri

    Slow but sure, I have been keeping track of my time on this build pretty closely, I'm at 85 hours at this point. Some Fairing and I'll be ready for glass.
    2017-10-24 18.45.23.jpg2017-10-24 18.44.33.jpg
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    Default Re: Simmons Sea Skiff 18 in Missouri

    Good stuff figo! I would, before glassing, round over the sharper edges...as much as 1/4" even... with a small hand plane (block) and some 80 grit on a sanding block.

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    Default Re: Simmons Sea Skiff 18 in Missouri

    Well after some delays and life getting in the way I was able to get the glass on yesterday. I think it came out pretty good for my first time doing an entire hull.
    Any thoughts on primer for the bottom? It will be used in salt water but live mostly on a trailer.

    2017-11-19 17.26.21.jpg2017-11-20 11.22.24.jpg2017-11-20 11.26.21.jpg2017-11-20 12.43.43.jpg2017-11-20 15.39.25.jpg
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    Default Re: Simmons Sea Skiff 18 in Missouri

    Simmons Sea Skiff build photos here:
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/vxuQDZI0Dz7qjzAx1

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    Default Re: Simmons Sea Skiff 18 in Missouri

    Love the scarphs!! So neat and clean. You're making it look tooo easy! And all this in 3 months....nice. I'm building the 22', and originally thought I'd be done in one year. Well, im into it 4 yrs now, and am looking to be on the water by next spring.....I'm not doing any boating in our winter. I'll be enjoying your show. If I can be of any help when you get to the frames, look me up and contact me and, using email, I can share my 'revolutionary' method for making frames quickly, and very accurately. At the WB School back in '06, we did frames for an 18 and it was the traditional method. I've improved on that! I'd love to post my pics on the WB Forum but as of yet haven't been successful. I'm going to try Jackster's photo method and see if that does the trick. Otherwise, all I can offer is via email. Continue with your beautiful work!

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    Default Re: Simmons Sea Skiff 18 in Missouri

    Thanks for the Kind words, simmons22. I have finished sanding and fairing an put one coat of bottom paint on. The shoe is next then I will finish painting the bottom.

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    Default Re: Simmons Sea Skiff 18 in Missouri

    Well she's flipped over! I was going to wait until Monday to do it with some help but didn't have anything to do Sunday afternoon so one thing led to another. No problem, I had been a little worried about it.
    I got the inside of the hull cleaned up, cut off a couple of ring nails that "missed" and ran the fillets along the Keel and floors. I used Thixo for that, expensive yes, fast, very! I used 4-1/2 tubes, so about $80.00 worth. Would I do it again, I dont think so, the cost out weighs the labor savings, but now I know. Here are a few pictures.
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    oh, man! chills up my spine! wow. This is the part of the build that is the most beautiful, I think. You get to see her displayed upside down and rightside up all at once.....the only time she does this! Keep up the good work and stay warm with that wood stove.....gotta be cozy in there!

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    Not much work going on here lately, -4 this morning but the Wood stove will get it up to about 60!
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    Default Re: Simmons Sea Skiff 18 in Missouri

    if you're moving about, that's about right. Mine's usually around 65, but I bump it up closer to 70 when doing 'major' epoxying.

    any thots as to floorboards? permanent or removable? In my 22, went with removable. Used an idea my great uncle built into one of his boats back in early '60's. I call it a "hogback", for want of a better/more accurate term. Easy to include at this stage of the build. My floorboards are 1/2" MDO, altho I know 3/8" would have worked just as well and saved a little weight, too.

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    Default Re: Simmons Sea Skiff 18 in Missouri

    I am going to use 1/2" MDO as well. I will make them removable. I want to try a casting deck fordward and raised areas on either side of the motor well. Curious about the Hogback, any pictures?
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    Default Re: Simmons Sea Skiff 18 in Missouri

    001.jpg003.jpg008.jpg notch the top of floors down centerline. I used a 1 1/2" thick doug fir board...all one piece. When cutting the rabbets, allow for epoxy thickness on floorboards. Make sure when cutting out floorboards on the edges that touch strakes/frames, to allow a lot extra for paint. I had my floorboards all done, they fit fine; then after I painted the interior of boat, my floorboards hung up on the paint...had to go back and widen the gaps for fit around frames and strakes. I topped off my floorboards with "anti skid" coating of crushed walnut shells...pretty sticky, and easily sanded; as opposed to sand! I have a revolutionary method for making almost absolute perfect fits for anything your trying to fit into the boat - floorboards, frames, etc. Have pix of that if you wish.

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    Default Re: Simmons Sea Skiff 18 in Missouri

    that sure is looking good. is that snow outside i see? i just noticed that the strongback was anchored to the floor. is the floor concrete or wood? keep the pics up!

    jim

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    Default Re: Simmons Sea Skiff 18 in Missouri

    Simmons, I like that Idea, I think I will use it! thanks. I would like to see pics of patterning.
    Madoc1, Thanks, no snow in those pics but a little on the ground now. We are an exceptionaly cold spell here in St. Louis!
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    Default Re: Simmons Sea Skiff 18 in Missouri

    my SSS 22 foot with removable floorboards. I'm hoping these pix are self explanatory....if not, we can do email; more room to show pix and explanations. I did not want my floorboards to meet end to end on top of a floor, so I installed "screw blocks" on each side of the floor that took the 'butted' floorboards...flush with the top of the floor. Also, on top of that same floor, I added a 'fat' 1/2" strip, against which the floorboards meet. Allow for epoxy thickness. I used no nails/screws to hold down this top strip (just thickened epoxy and my impact driver sitting on top of one to hold it down). The top of these strips and the top of the hogback are exactly same height/plane.starboard floorboard junctions 002.jpgstarboard floorboard junctions 004.jpgstarboard floorboard junctions 005.jpg
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    Default Re: Simmons Sea Skiff 18 in Missouri

    Part II of the floorboards is making the pattern - - You'll need a HOT GLUE gun; hot glue sticks; and quite a number of thin sticks, approx. 3/32" or 1/8" thick X various lengths (3", 6", 9", 3 1/2', 5') X 1" to 1 1/2" wide. I like a variety so I can choose the correct stick at the correct spot. The really long sticks work very well for the looong straight spots. Rip your own from two by fours, or buy a "door skin" (3/32" thick X 36" wide X 7' long) approx. $15 to $20 at a lumber yard, and you'll have plenty of sticks from that!

    Pictures I hope are self explanatory, but if not, we can work over email; that way I can send all the pix you'll ever need.

    Since these patterns are large and get "heavy", I added stiffeners. Also, you'll want to have approx. 1/16" gaps around your floors and frames; and you'll need to undercut the floorboard where it abuts the strakes. And if painting boat interior, allow even more gap at strakes and frames.

    Use short sticks against strakes, so as to make the curve more accurate.
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