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    I have been getting wind updates every hour at work (ATL airport) and every one has winds higher than what Glen claims from Ohio. Power is out over a good portion of WEST Metro Atlanta. Hmmmm....

    Must be fun to create your own reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynard38 View Post
    According to the ATIS at Atlanta Hartfield Jackson Int'l airport...

    KATL METAR Weather: KATL 111852Z 03037G51KT 2SM R09R/5500VP6000FT +RA BR BKN015 BKN023 OVC040 16/14 A2962 RMK AO2 PK WND 05051/1848 SLP025 P0027 T01610144

    That's 30 degrees at 37, gusts to 51. KNOTS.

    I'm not flying today, but as all 5 runways in ATL are east-west those gusts exceed our max crosswind component of 30 knots by quite a margin (14 knots) we'd be diverting. Add in a slippery, very wet runway and I'm glad to be home and working on the boat today!
    Thank for the info.

    Both weather.com and weather underground has the max winds at about 35-36 MPH.
    They do not give what the max gust levels are expected.

    https://www.wunderground.com/hourly/us/ga/atlanta/30301
    Last edited by genglandoh; 09-11-2017 at 05:55 PM. Reason: type changed 25 to 35

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Wilkinson View Post
    I have been getting wind updates every hour at work (ATL airport) and every one has winds higher than what Glen claims from Ohio. Power is out over a good portion of WEST Metro Atlanta. Hmmmm....

    Must be fun to create your own reality.
    Why are you climbing I am making up the wind speed numbers for Atlanta?
    I am just showing what weather.com and weather underground is predicting.
    If you do not believe me look at the links I provided.

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    Quite interesting that the strongest parts of the storm are WEST of Atlanta right now. 45-48 mph sustained winds. They just reported 64 MPH at ATL. Doesn't reall fit the OHC* (thanks Reynard) model. How did you get that wrong Glen???


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    Quote Originally Posted by genglandoh View Post
    Why are you climbing I am making up the wind speed numbers for Atlanta?
    I am just showing what weather.com and weather underground is predicting.
    If you do not believe me look at the links I provided.
    I don't have to look at any of your links. I live west of Atlanta, work at Atlanta airport and know what the weather here is doing.
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    03037G51KT

    That means the wind is CURRENTLY MEASURED from 030 degrees at 37 knots or 42.6 miles per hour. The "max wind" as you put it, is the G51KT. That's gusting to 58.7 mph.

    At his point the Ohio Hurricane Center should issue a statement acknowledging their sources are in error.
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    [QUOTE=Tom Wilkinson;5342135]Quite interesting that the strongest parts of the storm are WEST of Atlanta right now. 45-48 mph sustained winds. They just reported 64 MPH at ATL. Doesn't reall fit the OHC* (thanks Reynard) model. How did you get that wrong Glen???

    "How did you get that wrong Glen???"

    Did you mean "Geng"? I hope so, Tom!



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    [QUOTE=Glen Longino;5342150]
    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Wilkinson View Post
    Quite interesting that the strongest parts of the storm are WEST of Atlanta right now. 45-48 mph sustained winds. They just reported 64 MPH at ATL. Doesn't reall fit the OHC* (thanks Reynard) model. How did you get that wrong Glen???

    "How did you get that wrong Glen???"



    Did you mean "Geng"? I hope so, Tom!




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    Yes I did. Sorry Glen. Please accept my humble apology.
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    Meantime in Mexico, with an 8.1 earthquake and a cyclone 91 are confirmed dead….so far…..

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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    Meantime in Mexico, with an 8.1 earthquake and a cyclone 91 are confirmed dead….so far…..
    Not good at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by genglandoh View Post
    Hurricane IRMA is not a Hurricane anymore it has been downgraded to a storm 70 mph winds.

    Florida got lots of wind, lots of rain (12 Inches) but very little storm surge.
    So the big problem was trees falling down and taking out the electrical power lines.
    Good news the storm surge is much less then predicted.
    Don't get me wrong 10 foot storm surge is a lot but it is not as bad at the 20 foot expected.
    Monroe country is the Keys.

    Title: How much flooding Florida cities are seeing
    Monroe County: 10 feet of storm surge at landfall
    Miami-Dade County: 4 feet of surge
    Tampa: 2 to 4 feet of storm surge, which is expected to last throughout today
    Big Bend (an area in the panhandle): 3 to 6 feet of surge
    Orlando: More than a foot of flooding due to rainfall
    Jacksonville: 3 to 5 feet of surge plus more than 1 foot of rainfall
    Link: http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/09/us/hur...est/index.html

    Title: As Hurricane Irma approaches, what is storm surge and how dangerous is it?
    According to the Wall Street Journal, the storm surge for Irma is expected to be nine feet in Miami, though as the storm appears to move more west, the Gulf Coast region could see a surge of up to 20 feet. The National Hurricane Center has released interactive maps showing every area under storm surge warnings and areas where more than nine feet of rising water is expected.
    Link: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/weat...172243857.html

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    Are you trying to claim that the potential for that size surge wasn't there??? Seriously. What is your point. You are linking to a two day old article. The surge predictions yesterday were less and the high numbers they were quoting were said be be a 10% chance. That's no a high probability but it is a POSSIBILITY. Seems to me it is better to prepAre for worst case rather than best case.

    As of this am you were still claiming the storm will go east, it's heading towards Alabama now.

    What is your issue?
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    Quote Originally Posted by genglandoh View Post
    Good news the storm surge is much less then predicted.
    Don't get me wrong 10 foot storm surge is a lot but it is not as bad at the 20 foot expected.
    Monroe country is the Keys.

    Title: How much flooding Florida cities are seeing
    Monroe County: 10 feet of storm surge at landfall
    Miami-Dade County: 4 feet of surge
    Tampa: 2 to 4 feet of storm surge, which is expected to last throughout today
    Big Bend (an area in the panhandle): 3 to 6 feet of surge
    Orlando: More than a foot of flooding due to rainfall
    Jacksonville: 3 to 5 feet of surge plus more than 1 foot of rainfall
    Link: http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/09/us/hur...est/index.html

    Title: As Hurricane Irma approaches, what is storm surge and how dangerous is it?
    According to the Wall Street Journal, the storm surge for Irma is expected to be nine feet in Miami, though as the storm appears to move more west, the Gulf Coast region could see a surge of up to 20 feet. The National Hurricane Center has released interactive maps showing every area under storm surge warnings and areas where more than nine feet of rising water is expected.
    Link: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/weat...172243857.html
    Dear God! By the time this monster hits St. Louis, the surge will overtop the Arch!

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    Well, I know Dunning Kruger when I see it.

    LMAO
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    Quote Originally Posted by John of Phoenix View Post
    Well, I know Dunning Kruger when I see it.

    LMAO
    No kidding!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by oznabrag View Post
    Dear God! By the time this monster hits St. Louis, the surge will overtop the Arch!
    People in the Dr's waiting room are staring at the laughing fool in the corner.
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    I've got relatives in Naples. They did get out to Georgia but Naples seemed to get lucky.

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    I just saw the video on the other thread and it didn't look very good. I was going by what the mayor said which wasn't too bad. I guess I'll know when they return

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    Just received this from my daughter in Ft Lauderdale :

    We are home -- and on our knees with gratitude. The house looks OK. We checked the attic and 2nd floor ceiling, around the doors and windows. It all looks OK. We even have power. No cable or Internet. We have a house that by all accounts looks whole and is standing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Longino View Post
    Word is that Curtis M is safe in Florida. Thanks, Bobby!
    Same for Lefty and Carter.

    Good news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John of Phoenix View Post
    Just received this from my daughter in Ft Lauderdale :

    We are home -- and on our knees with gratitude. The house looks OK. We checked the attic and 2nd floor ceiling, around the doors and windows. It all looks OK. We even have power. No cable or Internet. We have a house that by all accounts looks whole and is standing!
    Great news!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe (SoCal) View Post
    He's 80 and waiting it out - I'm worried and call twice a day. I have him booked to visit us for Thanksgiving
    I hope your Dad is OK and that he can handle 4-5 days without power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by genglandoh View Post
    Thank for the info.

    Both weather.com and weather underground has the max winds at about 35-36 MPH.
    They do not give what the max gust levels are expected.

    https://www.wunderground.com/hourly/us/ga/atlanta/30301
    More good news both the weather.com and weather underground have lowered their expected max winds for Atlanta.
    It is how down to about 29-30 mph

    https://weather.com/weather/hourbyhour/l/USGA0028:1:US
    https://www.wunderground.com/hourly/us/ga/atlanta?mr=1

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    Can you not read? YOUR link says 25 to 35 with gusts to 40. Some local stations have higher estimatesimage.jpg
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    Or we could stick with the local forecasts rather the the Ohio based model.



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    Quote Originally Posted by John of Phoenix View Post
    Just received this from my daughter in Ft Lauderdale :

    We are home -- and on our knees with gratitude. The house looks OK. We checked the attic and 2nd floor ceiling, around the doors and windows. It all looks OK. We even have power. No cable or Internet. We have a house that by all accounts looks whole and is standing!
    I have a bunch of friends in Lauderdale, I'm pleased to see your daughter fared well. I hope my friends did too.

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    My friend in Estero is fine. Minor damage to his house. A new block wall house in his neighborhood is completely flat though it was still under construction so I'm guessing it did not have enough structure in place for full strength. Hi airplane survived just fine in the small hangar it was in but another hangar a few hundred feet away was completely destroyed. He's feeling pretty lucky right now.

    I think we are going to some major damage once there has been time to really evaluate what has happened. The people downplaying it for political reasons should be ashamed.
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    Anyone in touch with Pipefitter? Not sure of his location in FL
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Wilkinson View Post
    Can you not read? YOUR link says 25 to 35 with gusts to 40. Some local stations have higher estimatesimage.jpg
    Thanks.
    I did skip over the summary at the top of the page and looked at the hourly spreadsheet below it.

    The point is that Atlanta is going to be OK, the winds are not that bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by genglandoh View Post
    Thanks.
    I did skip over the summary at the top of the page and looked at the hourly spreadsheet below it.

    The point is that Atlanta is going to be OK, the winds are not that bad.
    Tell that to the families of the people that have already died in the storm. How about you worry about ohio. You predicted the storm would go east..... Nuff said.
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    64 MPH gust just now at the airport in Atlanta.

    Flooding in Georgia and SC is expected to get bad.
    1,400,000 without power in Georgia.

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    Charlotte NC will be having same bad weather tonight.
    A large part of the storm has moved into NC.
    Comparing the following cities, you will see that Charlotte NC is getting hit harder.

    Charlotte NC
    Showery rains containing strong gusty winds and heavy downpours at times. Low 61F. Winds ENE at 25 to 35 mph. Chance of rain 100%. 2 to 3 inches of rain expected. Winds could occasionally gust over 50 mph.
    https://www.wunderground.com/hourly/us/nc/charlotte

    Atlanta GA
    Windy with periods of rain. Low 58F. Winds ESE at 20 to 30 mph. Chance of rain 100%. Rainfall around a half an inch. Winds could occasionally gust over 40 mph.
    https://www.wunderground.com/hourly/us/ga/atlanta/30301

    Memphis TN
    Cloudy skies with periods of rain late. Low 58F. Winds N at 10 to 20 mph. Chance of rain 100%. Rainfall around a half an inch.
    https://www.wunderground.com/hourly/us/tn/memphis/37501

    St Louis
    Partly to mostly cloudy. Low 58F. Winds NNE at 5 to 10 mph.
    https://www.wunderground.com/hourly/...nt-louis/63101

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    Still trying to claim the storm moved east huh?
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    Reynard, how is your Beaufort property fairing? Out of flood danger yet? Flooded? Hope it's ok.
    Tom

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