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Thread: A New Rig for Julia, Parcelled and Served Dyneema

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    I can't imagine what a suitable lightning conductor would look like to take the power of a lightning strike from masthead to the water. You'd have a copper rod the size of the mast. I think these systems are like airbags in a car. The car will still be a write-off but you'll survive. Your rig will still be written off, but your boat won't explode into a ball of fire. It certainly is something that needs consideration in a cruising vessel.
    It does indeed need consideration, but there certainly are a number of different opinions on how best to deal with lightning.
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    Hi,

    I just came across this thread and would like to give a big thank you for your time outlining your rigging procedure and experiences. My wife and I are also planning on parcelled and served dyneema for our rig so this is a great guide.

    I was also concerned about lightening protection without any metal overhead to offer protection on deck. In our case we built new laminated solid masts so I ran a 2/0 AWG conductor in the layup with solid copper termination points at either end. It wasn't that much of a pain and gives a bit of comfort.

    Cheers,
    Mark

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    Some of the most beautiful work I have ever seen pictured here....
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    I have driven a 6.5l Dodge with diesel Cummins and it was glorious....

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    Hi J,

    Wonder what you used to measure your tension after doing the splice.

    Mark

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    I had a crane scale I borrowed from work. Even with the wheels blocked I couldn't get much past 2500 lb without sliding the truck across the yard, so that may be a useful data point if you don't have a scale.

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    Absolutely gorgeous. I am *Seriously* impressed with your splicing work on the dyneema. There's a new backstay in my boats future, maybe I ought to splice up my own!
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    I'm sitting at home recovering from surgery, catching up on threads. It was a delight to go over this one.
    Well done!
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    When you put to sea, even without our acknowledgment, which is overwhelmed by the quality of your work, you have the peace of mind of knowing you have done it right, very right! Plus, those of us who still use a Yankee Scredriver Salute you as well! Bravo!
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    I read this thread and I am really impressed. I did not parcel and serve my Dux rigging, as I thought the added windage would be quite significant. But it certainly seems to make the rig bullet proof with respect to UV and chafe.
    I have been an advocate of this stuff for a couple of years now, having really enjoyed working with it on my boat and the end result. The more I think about it, the more I think it should be the material of choice for standing rigging on a wide range of boat types.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.Madison View Post
    I know of an Ingrid in Port Townsend named Pelin, but no Pilar. Pelin has a nearly identical served rig to the one I just built.
    Hey, I just found this thread - beautiful boat and good choice on the rigging! Pelin is my boat - we did this last year, also with Brion's help, and I can vouch that compared to splicing steel, working with this stuff is a dream. Here's a brief video of me flipping the serving mallet, out behind Brion's shop. https://youtu.be/BOZD1uAhRko

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    Nice video! What was the purpose of the stabilizer line to the tree?

    Hope to meet on the water next summer.

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    Hi,

    Wondering how you sized your Dyneema, did you use the colligomarine "stretch chart" (link below) or some other guidance material ?

    https://static1.squarespace.com/stat...quavalents.pdf

    Thanks,
    Mark

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    I did reference that chart. For the most part, I sized things for SS 1x19 and then went up a size. This resulted in safety factors over my 60 degree heel loading (max load) of 8-10. I feel really safe about that. Its much stronger than the steel it replaced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.Madison View Post
    Nice video! What was the purpose of the stabilizer line to the tree?

    Hope to meet on the water next summer.
    That was how Brion and crew showed me to set it up - it just reduces the amount of play in the line so it doesn't take such wide sweeping circles to keep it going. Sometimes had two or even three of those lines on a single piece.

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    Great thread and congratulations on relaunching Julia back into her element.
    Enjoyed the cruising part of what used to be my old stomping grounds.

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