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  1. #36
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    Default Re: 1954 Trojan Sea Breeze

    Yes, we look forward to using her as our "lake house" someday.

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    Cool boat! I am trying to restore a neglected old plywood boat as well and my father and I recently pulled her off the trailer and set her on a makeshift cradle (that is actually my slide in camper dolly). Heavy duty casters! Looking at your rigging set up I feel better about what we did which was similar...we didn't have a crane truck so we used a gantry we built to pull the engine (also a little four cylinder) and an engine hoist to lift her up and roll the trailer out and the cradle in place. I was pretty nervous as well...once she was blocked up in the cradle I felt a lot better! I'm interested to see how the bottom was fastened and how difficult it is to remove the fasteners. My old girl was screwed together with galvanized slot head screws which have deteriorated to rusty nubs.

    Thanks for for posting and I'm looking forward to following your restoration...great looking boat!

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    Take an ice pick and see if you can push it through any suspect boards.
    You will have your answer if that board needs replacing.
    You are going to need a large shop vacuum. You will use it a lot.
    I love the smell of fresh cut plywood in the morning.

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    Hmmmm, ..... I wouldn't be happy if someone went poking at my boat with an ice pick. Really, if you really have a question you can learn as much if not more with a straight pin. (An ice pick is fine if you know it is bad and are curious how bad.

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    Surveyors use ice picks all the time.
    I love the smell of fresh cut plywood in the morning.

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    Default Re: 1954 Trojan Sea Breeze

    Quote Originally Posted by donald branscom View Post
    Surveyors use ice picks all the time.

    Maybe in Arizona.

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    Not on my boat they won't.

    ........... I had to have a survey done this past July in order to get insurance. I hired 'the guy' in the area for wooden boats and he never took out an ice pick (or anything resembling one).

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    I tapped around in various places with my car key when I went to look at it before buying it. That's all I felt I needed to do to get an idea of where rot might be. Once I get things cleaned up a bit, when my job leaves me alone for a moment, I think any rot on the inside will reveal itself pretty readily. I can't get underneath at the moment. That's where I expect to find the center seam issue. After the winter, I'll be able to pull her out and flip her sans cabin. THEN I expect we could get an eyeful. She's plywood. So the edges of the plywood are where I'm thinking I'm most likely going to find issues. I bet there is a world of goo and goop slathered over old trouble spots.

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    Hello,
    I am happy to have found you and this forum. I am currently restoring a 54 Sea Breeze as well. My hull is in better shape and has been completed (stripped, sanded, filled, and painted) both bottom paint and the plywood to the rail. My bow however was left sticking out of a shed for many years. Therefore needs a complete redecking and rails. As well, the side panels on both sides of the helm are in poor condition. The boat is in a shop on the Seneca River in Cato, NY. As I am still a few years from retirement, I try to get there three to four times per week. I started in June and hope to have the boat completed by late summer of 18. I have a couple of questions: Were there chrome bow rails on yours? And do you think the swan was originally on the boat. Unfortunately, mine has an outboard. A 1963 Johnson Sea Horse 40. I would have preferred the outboard. I would be happy to share as much information as we can going forward.

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    This looks like a great project. I don't see anything remotely like that boat being manufactured today, and the type just makes so much sense.
    -Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5CardCharlie View Post
    Hello,
    I am happy to have found you and this forum. I am currently restoring a 54 Sea Breeze as well. My hull is in better shape and has been completed (stripped, sanded, filled, and painted) both bottom paint and the plywood to the rail. My bow however was left sticking out of a shed for many years. Therefore needs a complete redecking and rails. As well, the side panels on both sides of the helm are in poor condition. The boat is in a shop on the Seneca River in Cato, NY. As I am still a few years from retirement, I try to get there three to four times per week. I started in June and hope to have the boat completed by late summer of 18. I have a couple of questions: Were there chrome bow rails on yours? And do you think the swan was originally on the boat. Unfortunately, mine has an outboard. A 1963 Johnson Sea Horse 40. I would have preferred the outboard. I would be happy to share as much information as we can going forward.
    We would love to see pictures of your Sea Breeze as well, maybe you could start your own thread and we can follow both boats.
    I would bet 99.999% that the swan is not original. (I never saw anything like that on a Trojan.)
    I also think a bow rail might possibly have been an option, but not standard. Trojans of that era were ,... cost competitive basic entry level boats.jk

    I completely agree with Wobox, they are cute practical little boats that just make so much sense. Glad you are saving one too.
    Last edited by nedL; 11-28-2017 at 08:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5CardCharlie View Post
    Hello,
    I am happy to have found you and this forum. I am currently restoring a 54 Sea Breeze as well. My hull is in better shape and has been completed (stripped, sanded, filled, and painted) both bottom paint and the plywood to the rail. My bow however was left sticking out of a shed for many years. Therefore needs a complete redecking and rails. As well, the side panels on both sides of the helm are in poor condition. The boat is in a shop on the Seneca River in Cato, NY. As I am still a few years from retirement, I try to get there three to four times per week. I started in June and hope to have the boat completed by late summer of 18. I have a couple of questions: Were there chrome bow rails on yours? And do you think the swan was originally on the boat. Unfortunately, mine has an outboard. A 1963 Johnson Sea Horse 40. I would have preferred the outboard. I would be happy to share as much information as we can going forward.

    Sorry for the delayed response. Very excited to see there is someone else out there with this boat. Swan was not original. And no chrome rails. I might be in over my head with this boat. Every time I find a new bit of rot I say to myself, "I'm not giving up yet." As hunting season winds down I'll be turning my attention back to this and another boat project to keep me out of trouble. I'd be happy to share information!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry's Gal View Post
    Sorry for the delayed response. Very excited to see there is someone else out there with this boat. Swan was not original. And no chrome rails. I might be in over my head with this boat. Every time I find a new bit of rot I say to myself, "I'm not giving up yet." As hunting season winds down I'll be turning my attention back to this and another boat project to keep me out of trouble. I'd be happy to share information!

    Great, I have been kind of busy and I will get some pictures up soon. I have been sanding mahogany for quite a while now. about another three hours and I can go on to rebuilding the bow deck. This is the one area I am going to go off the original design. I am going to do the deck in mahogany planks instead of plywood, with the hatch cover of mahogany too. Yeah the give up factor is sometimes overwhelming. I just have told enough people about my project, my pride won't let me not finish it. The bride of thirty years want a swan too. we will see. I am not a hunter, but snow and snowmobile season has arrived at the same time, therefore, my time will get tighter. Keep the faith!!! As Kenneth Graham wrote in Wind and the Willows "There is simply nothing, nothing quite so worthwhile as messing about in boats".

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    Default Re: 1954 Trojan Sea Breeze

    Let's see if I can attach some pictures.IMG_20171203_162854899.jpg

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    Nice project! That "Sea Breeze" is a practical little boat. I will express some curiosity about your plans to replace the plywood foredeck with "mahogany planks". Can you elaborate with a good bit of detail? This may be a direction that could give you some unforeseen 'complications'.

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    This pic shows how I believe the foredeck was made originally, with ply under the decking. This is what my boat has. I should say "had," because it is a rotted mess around the hatch. Whole thing will be replaced.

    From "The Repair and Restoration of Wooden Boats," by Mike Harper and Dave Johnson.
    IMG_0928.jpg
    This pic may be upside down. �� Trying to make pics happen via the iPad.

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    Attachment 8151

    You can see the plywood in this pic. It seems to have some thin seam battens, not exactly like the pic from the book.

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