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    Default Skewing the vote: not just gerrymandering

    Here's an example of allowing additional voting locations in areas of Indiana with a bias toward one party... while disallowing them at a location biased toward the other. Lawsuits have been filed. Also - add N. Carolina to the list of those trying to distort democracy --

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/indiana-republicans-keep-blocking-early-224145700.html

    http://www.esquire.com/news-politics...-early-voting/


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    Nibble, nibble, nibble. ALEC & Co. have a plan. They have the funding. They won't stop until we stop them. Squelching voting is one of the ways they hope to stop us from blocking their anti-democratic efforts across a wide spectrum of issues.

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    Default Re: Skewing the vote: not just gerrymandering

    Quote Originally Posted by David G View Post
    Nibble, nibble, nibble. ALEC & Co. have a plan. They have the funding. They won't stop until we stop them. Squelching voting is one of the ways they hope to stop us from blocking their anti-democratic efforts across a wide spectrum of issues.

    Today's Republican party.
    Today's Republican party are a seditious, insurgent, criminal organization, and it's time the American People start seeing it for what it is.

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    Default Re: Skewing the vote: not just gerrymandering

    Reading to the end of the article seems to be important.

    Early voting has become a focal point of partisan battles in recent years. Republicans have generally sought to limit it, believing that it leads to increased turnout, which tends to help Democrats. Research, however, has shown that’s not really the case.
    Life is complex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Too Little Time View Post
    Reading to the end of the article seems to be important.
    Captain Whoosh strikes again.

    First - the paper he cites seems to be an outlier.

    https://www.propublica.org/article/w...w-early-voting

    Research shows early voting increases turnout by 2 percent to 4 percent.
    Second - the paper cited also avoids the issue of voter composition. Overall - these efforts to expand voter participation tend to increase voting rates among those populations that are currently under-represented. A good thing, I'd say... but a point ignored by the good Captain.

    Third - and here we actually veer back on-point - even if you hypothesize a reality where early voting makes not difference or depresses turnout - the fact is the R's don't believe that. They believe it increases it (because it does). And upon that belief they base their anti-democratic voter suppression efforts.

    Today's Republican party. They are everything oz labels them... and more.

    Oh... and Capt. Whoosh? I've asked you this before, but could you please cease participating on my threads until you learn how to read and think? It would be much appreciated. It really does get wearisome having the discussion repeatedly muddied by misinformation.
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    Default Re: Skewing the vote: not just gerrymandering

    Quote Originally Posted by Too Little Time View Post
    Reading to the end of the article seems to be important.


    Early voting has become a focal point of partisan battles in recent years. Republicans have generally sought to limit it, believing that it leads to increased turnout, which tends to help Democrats. Research, however, has shown that’s not really the case.


    Why else would republicans be limiting it? Surely if it limits voting fraud they would be all for it?

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    David G
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    Default Re: Skewing the vote: not just gerrymandering

    Quote Originally Posted by David G View Post
    Captain Whoosh strikes again.

    First - the paper he cites seems to be an outlier.
    I will make it more clear for you: You should read to the end of the articles you link to and expect people to read. I quoted content at the end of the link you posted.

    I am all in favor of everyone voting. Even the people I disagree with. The people I disagree with and you disagree with showed up and they won. That seems to be a lesson ignored.
    Life is complex.

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