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    The 2nd must have changed and no one noticed ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterSibley View Post
    The 2nd must have changed and no one noticed ?
    Yep, it says
    "A well regulated white Militia,
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    Quote Originally Posted by jack grebe View Post
    That was 50 years ago.........
    And your point? When was the 2nd Amendment written - is it still in force? When were the symbols and slogans used by the alt.right muck coined?

    50 years only means something if a nation's used the time well. Otherwise, it's actually a pretty short stretch.
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    How many here like that these white supremacists yesterday were packing military weapons and with the intention of coming to kill folks who disagree with their ideology?

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    Quote Originally Posted by B_B View Post
    You sure it wasn't Hillary?
    The term assault rifle is generally attributed to Adolf Hitler, who for propaganda purposes used the German word "Sturmgewehr" (which translates to "storm rifle" or "assault rifle"), as the new name for the MP43, subsequently known as theSturmgewehr 44 or StG 44.[6][8][9][10][11][12][13][14] However, other sources dispute that Hitler had much to do with coining the new name besides signing the production order.[15] The StG 44 is generally considered the first selective fire military rifle to popularize the assault rifle concept.[6][8] Today, the term assault rifle is used to define firearms sharing the same basic characteristics as the StG 44.[6][8]

    just what are those characteristic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Hoppe View Post
    How many here like that these white supremacists yesterday were packing military weapons and with the intention of coming to kill folks who disagree with their ideology?

    I think living in SF was a great eye opener for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Hoppe View Post
    How many here like that these white supremacists yesterday were packing military weapons and with the intention of coming to kill folks who disagree with their ideology?

    idiots come in different shapes and sizes and both sides of the political line
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillip Allen View Post
    idiots come in different shapes and sizes and both sides of the political line
    So, so true.

    It is the idiots we are against, of all stripes, eh?

    I hope.

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    How many folks were shot at Charlottesville yesterday at that protest? Anybody know?

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    ^ and your point is?

    If you are not pointless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peerie Maa View Post
    ^ and your point is?

    If you are not pointless.
    no one was shot... I'll bet you knew that and you got the point loud and clear... don't screw around
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    Quote Originally Posted by B_B View Post
    So there are only two political sides to choose from? You clearly reject the progressive liberal side, so you are on the side of the white supremacist, neo-Nazi, fascists in the photo you quote?
    "white supremacist, neo-Nazi, fascists " two can play at that silly game... above are three more political parties you recognize I see
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    Hey! Round the maypole we go! Wind it up tighter, I'm sure it will be fine.

    Someone, at some point, has to allow as they might not be the best thing ever.

    If we can all do that, we may stand a chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peerie Maa View Post
    ^ and your point is?

    If you are not pointless.
    What I see is that the majority of the time, it is Democrats doing the shooting........
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    Jack, you get to choose. If you had been in Charlottesville, you would have had sympathy for one group, or another. There really is no way to claim moral equivalence. These were actual Nazis seeking to intimidate their prey. Both were Americans.
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    [QUOTE=TomF;5313478]Jack, you get to choose. If you had been in Charlottesville, you would have had sympathy for one group, or another. There really is no way to claim moral equivalence. These were actual Nazis seeking to intimidate their prey. Both were Americans.[/QUOTE]

    It is FAR too easy to become an American.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oznabrag View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TomF View Post
    Jack, you get to choose. If you had been in Charlottesville, you would have had sympathy for one group, or another. There really is no way to claim moral equivalence. These were actual Nazis seeking to intimidate their prey. Both were Americans.
    It is FAR too easy to become an American.
    Yep, you just need American parents. If you are lucky they have both education and the intelligence to use it.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peerie Maa View Post
    Yep, you just need American parents. If you are lucky they have both education and the intelligence to use it.
    Precisely!

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    Quote Originally Posted by oznabrag View Post
    It is FAR too easy to become an American.
    Yeah. My technique was to be born in Sioux City, Iowa.
    Well, Mr. Botard, do you still deny all rhinocerotic evidence?

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    Precisely.

    As a Nation of immigrants, we must cleave unto the Constitution as our Mother.

    If we are to continue trying to be a Nation of Laws, and not of Men we, at some point, are going to be forced to withhold citizenship from those who do not understand this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oznabrag View Post
    Precisely.

    As a Nation of immigrants, we must cleave unto the Constitution as our Mother.

    If we are to continue trying to be a Nation of Laws, and not of Men we, at some point, are going to be forced to withhold citizenship from those who do not understand this.
    Magic
    We get racists telling Birmingham born blacks like Lenny Henry to go back home to where they came from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peerie Maa View Post
    Magic
    We get racists telling Birmingham born blacks like Lenny Henry to go back home to where they came from.
    How is this a response to my post?

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    My point is, that you guys go on ad infinitum about assault weapons and those "mental midgets" who carry them....I would have assumed some "goober" would surely have gone off the deep end and shot someone. But, I guess not. Go figure.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by oznabrag View Post
    How is this a response to my post?
    Your suggestion that you withhold citizenship from people born in the US of A to US citizens reminded me of some of the idiot racists in the UK.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peerie Maa View Post
    Your suggestion that you withhold citizenship from people born in the US of A to US citizens reminded me of some of the idiot racists in the UK.
    Soooooo . . .

    You're saying that I'm a racist.


    No need to read anything else you have to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oznabrag View Post
    Soooooo . . .

    You're saying that I'm a racist.


    No need to read anything else you have to say.
    Nope, I think that you don't bother to proof read and think about what you just typed.
    Were you really suggesting breaking International law by making US born citizens stateless?
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    Who?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oznabrag View Post
    Who?
    Quote Originally Posted by oznabrag View Post

    If we are to continue trying to be a Nation of Laws, and not of Men we, at some point, are going to be forced to withhold citizenship from those who do not understand this.
    So, what do you mean by this suggestion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jack grebe View Post
    I wouldn't be surprised to see you he his company either.
    Would someone please translate this into English.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomF View Post
    Jack, you get to choose. If you had been in Charlottesville, you would have had sympathy for one group, or another. There really is no way to claim moral equivalence. These were actual Nazis seeking to intimidate their prey. Both were Americans.
    I'm sorry, but I take exception to that. The KKK, Neo-Nazi's, "Confederate supporters", and Alt-right, are not Americans in my book. They live in this country, but are traitors to what this nation stands for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoez View Post
    I'm sorry, but I take exception to that. The KKK, Neo-Nazi's, "Confederate supporters", and Alt-right, are not Americans in my book. They live in this country, but are traitors to what this nation stands for.
    Uh-oh!

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    Originally Posted by PhaseLockedLoop View Post
    I'm surprised at you, Phillip. M16s and AK-47s were designated assault rifles from their inception. They are light machine guns, and as such can fire full-auto.

    Semi-auto versions which look the same are not machine guns.

    End thread drift.
    Quote Originally Posted by jack grebe View Post
    Those are also not available to the general public without jumping through
    some major hoops...... Ask Pless about what is involved to legally own one.
    Perhaps you haven't heard of a device called the "Hellfire." It makes semi-automatic weapons capable of near-fully-automatic rate of fire. You can buy one for about fifty dollars, but you could make one in an afternoon in your garage.

    A Hellfire trigger is a device that allows a semi-automatic firearm to fire at a rate approaching that of fully automatic firearms. When the trigger is pressed, the Hellfire device disengages the trigger return spring, which moves the operator's trigger finger. As a result, the operator can move his finger to fire individual shots more quickly. The Hellfire device may be used in conjunction with bump firing techniques to fire more rapidly, although this makes aiming down the sights, and therefore accurate shooting, impossible.

    The Hellfire trigger was used, with a pair of TEC-9 pistols, by the perpetrator of a 1993 mass shooting that killed nine people. Separately, David Koresh, leader of the Branch Davidians, reportedly told authorities that he utilized semi-automatic guns with the part installed.


    Visit the site below to see Hellfires in action...and imagine what some looney could do with a firearm equipped with a thirty-round clip and a Hellfire in a crowd like we saw yesterday.

    http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=...=0&FORM=VDQVAP
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peerie Maa View Post
    Your suggestion that you withhold citizenship from people born in the US of A to US citizens reminded me of some of the idiot racists in the UK.
    in the 1930s, Jews had their citizenship revoked in Germany... anybody else see that?
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    I saw a program on the tube this morning about the popularity of the AR-15 rifle in America. One guy is selling info on how to make large-volume clips and non-serialized (I don't know the proper term) main carriage components on a 3-D printer, another (a woman) teaches pre-teen girls how to shoot & maintain them using pretty pink ones, and the narrator made several references to how easily they are converted to full-auto fire.

    Everybody needs a deer rifle that is full-auto, pink, and untraceable, right?
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    Again.
    Quote Originally Posted by Peerie Maa View Post
    Nice deflection.

    However this is the issue:
    Originally Posted by Shang
    Virginia is an Open-carry state, but how is it a good idea to permit guns in a situation like this?


    Why do people not want to discuss the stupidity of taking rifles into a crowd?
    Or should that be "Why does Phillip not want to discuss the stupidity of taking rifles into a crowd?"
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