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    Does he have the Fashy Hair cut?


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    Well, how to stuff up your own and a few hundred other peoples lives.

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    " Charlottesville, so sad!"

    White House, so sad!

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    You folks don't get it - violence porn (specifically vid of cars running down protesters) is a staple
    of Reich wing entertainment. They watch it for fun.
    No one should be surprised by this . . sad to say.

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    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewir...trump-promises

    During a white nationalist rally in Charlottesville, Va. on Saturday, former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke said the event is in line with President Trump’s “promises.”

    “This represents a turning point for the people of this country. We are determined to take our country back,” Duke said. “We are going to fulfill the promises of Donald Trump. That’s what we believed in. That’s why we voted for Donald Trump, because he said he’s going to take our country back.”

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    I've read through the thread, but not all the links. Is the size of the demonstration/counter-demonstration mentioned? Does anyone have a sense of how big the whacko right wing is in the country?
    So many questions, so little time.

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    #40………...
    "the event is in line with President Trump’s “promises.”"

    Yes………. Seems that the fact of Pres. Don. has given them permission. I bet they won't relinquish it easily, or peacefully if Charlottesville is any indication.

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    No big deal. We'll get over it like we did Newtown.

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    This belongs to Dolt 45. He lifted the rock and encouraged them.
    In the middle of Emancipation Park in Charlottesville on Saturday, two young women, one white and one black, took each other's hands and held them tightly, and with their other hands they gripped the steel barrier in front of them.
    A few feet away, a young white man with a buzzed haircut and sunglasses leaned towards them over a facing barrier. "You'll be on the first f*****g boat home," he screamed at the black woman, before turning to the white woman. "And as for you, you're going straight to hell," he said. Then he gave a Nazi salute.
    For the third time in a few months, white nationalists had descended on the small, liberal city of Charlottesville in the old Confederate capital of Virginia, to protest against the planned removal of a statue of Confederate general Robert E Lee.
    This time they came under the banner of the so-called "alt-right", for a rally they called "Unite the Right". They were a motley crew of militia, racists, and neo-Nazis, and some who said they simply wanted to defend their Southern history.
    They gathered early in the morning at Emancipation Park - formerly Lee Park - where the statue sits, some dressed in full tactical gear and openly carrying rifles. Others wore black shirts, helmets, and boots.
    In a column they surged into the park, using sticks and their fists to shove aside anti-fascist counter-protesters. Then they blocked off the entrance with shields. Inside, David Duke, the former grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan, grinned and waved as the crowd, almost entirely white and male, cheered him on, chanting his name and putting their arms up in Nazi salutes.
    They had reason to be pleased. They were in the middle of the largest gathering of white nationalists in America for decades.
    from http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40914748
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    Try this in Germany.
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    This is kinda cute. From the BBC story:

    The three women from the Revolutionary Conservative who flew into the city preach what they call "racial realism", which they say is not racism.
    "It's natural for people to want to be with their own kind, and to look to their own interests," said RS McCoy, another member of staff from the paper, who flew in from California.
    Are they listening to the steamy horror coming out of their boyfriends?
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    Brand new flags, look at the fold marks. Don really is dragging them out from under their rocks.
    Any stars and stripes in that procession?

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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    Brand new flags, look at the fold marks. Don really is dragging them out from under their rocks.
    Any stars and stripes in that procession?
    None on the BeeB reports. However a Google search of images found two.

    Love the irony of the caption put to this image.


    Speakers from the white nationalist movement claim its members are being misrepresented
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ishmael View Post
    I've read through the thread, but not all the links. Is the size of the demonstration/counter-demonstration mentioned? Does anyone have a sense of how big the whacko right wing is in the country?
    How many people voted for Trump?
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    I'm thinking if SCROTUS got around to calling these ****birds, terrorists the FBI and other Federal law enforcement would have to get involved in identifying and hunting down these SCROTUS supporters. All of them.
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    I noticed the new flag for the first time yesterday. I have no idea what is supposed to stand for.

    I'm sure most people on this forum, don't know much about Charlottesville. The town you've seen in the news is not normal the town is beautiful, wealthy, and progressive. 99% of the nazis are not from the area.
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    Trump's response was truly deplorable!

    He understands that he was elected on a platform of hate and fear and that remains the base of his support!
    He exploits this whether it's North Korea or racial/ethnic hate.
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    Glen,

    Following someone on social media hardly means an endorsement of their views. Would you like to be known by some of the company here on the WBF?

    I don't do the big social media platforms, though I suppose in its way this forum, and others like it, is a precursor of the phenomenon.
    So many questions, so little time.

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    Jack, it's a pretty damned strong signal for a senior Presidential advisor to have "opinion leaders" showing up as being "followed" on a senior advisor's publicly available social media feed. Particularly when one puts some of the advisor's own positions up beside those advocated by those "opinion leaders."

    Deniability, sure. But plausible? Nah. That "plausibility" thing is the "fake news" part.
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    Tom,

    As I said, I don't follow it, but if you say so...
    So many questions, so little time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ishmael View Post
    I've read through the thread, but not all the links. Is the size of the demonstration/counter-demonstration mentioned? Does anyone have a sense of how big the whacko right wing is in the country?
    I think so. This IS Trump's base; the 34% he can't lose.

    I still think the idiots are the ones who organized the opposition protest. Without that opposition, this event would have had no violence, not deaths or injuries AND VERY LITTLE PRESS COVERAGE, and is the press coverage these people wanted.

    This 34% is what Trump was smart enough to tap into. It's enough to win some primaries; a threat to incumbent Republicans. These are the ones he would not lose if he shot someone.

    We do have some history we ought to be able to learn from. The Tuskegee Air Force proved racists wrong. Turned out we have had some exceptional quarterbacks who were/are black. we've seen the myths destroyed.

    Trump played into the fear of Christian racists as he's telling everyone we should fear all Muslims.

    MY disappointment is with the reaction. Let them have their damn march. The protesters provided the conflict, which provided the violence, which provided the news coverage. A simple, peaceful, non protested event would have been a tiny blip on the news. They wanted publicity, and their enemies gave it to them.
    May be some rough water ahead. We're getting new captain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ishmael View Post
    Glen,

    Following someone on social media hardly means an endorsement of their views. Would you like to be known by some of the company here on the WBF?

    I don't do the big social media platforms, though I suppose in its way this forum, and others like it, is a precursor of the phenomenon.
    I've read quite a lot about Miller, Jack.
    My post was simply a sampler of Miller and what a creep he is.
    He's dead of eye and dangerous of mind.

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    Trump came up small yet again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Smith View Post
    I think so. This IS Trump's base; the 34% he can't lose.

    I still think the idiots are the ones who organized the opposition protest. Without that opposition, this event would have had no violence, not deaths or injuries AND VERY LITTLE PRESS COVERAGE, and is the press coverage these people wanted.

    . . .

    MY disappointment is with the reaction. Let them have their damn march. The protesters provided the conflict, which provided the violence, which provided the news coverage. A simple, peaceful, non protested event would have been a tiny blip on the news. They wanted publicity, and their enemies gave it to them.
    Soooo . . . we just roll over and take it?

    These violent, racist, anti-Constitutional, bigoted Morons just showed the 66% what a great steaming load of human garbage they are.

    That is worth a LOT.
    Rattling the teacups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Smith View Post
    I think so. This IS Trump's base; the 34% he can't lose.

    I still think the idiots are the ones who organized the opposition protest. Without that opposition, this event would have had no violence, not deaths or injuries AND VERY LITTLE PRESS COVERAGE, and is the press coverage these people wanted.

    This 34% is what Trump was smart enough to tap into. It's enough to win some primaries; a threat to incumbent Republicans. These are the ones he would not lose if he shot someone.

    We do have some history we ought to be able to learn from. The Tuskegee Air Force proved racists wrong. Turned out we have had some exceptional quarterbacks who were/are black. we've seen the myths destroyed.

    Trump played into the fear of Christian racists as he's telling everyone we should fear all Muslims.

    MY disappointment is with the reaction. Let them have their damn march. The protesters provided the conflict, which provided the violence, which provided the news coverage. A simple, peaceful, non protested event would have been a tiny blip on the news. They wanted publicity, and their enemies gave it to them.
    For a long time, that's been the idea: let them have their show, and nobody shows up to make a fuss, just barely make the news. One of the first reports i heard, Sat. AM, a reporter had been handed a business card by one of the protesters: Protester for hire. There were bad guy's on both sides, wanting chaos, and news coverage.

    As for 34%, the nazis amassed an estimated 500-550 from across the nation: the antis, about 2000. Both sides were violent: both sides were wrong, my reps weren't there.
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    Counsel for the defense of Nazis. Ouch. Wouldn't have thought it of you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Smith View Post
    I think so. This IS Trump's base; the 34% he can't lose.

    I still think the idiots are the ones who organized the opposition protest. Without that opposition, this event would have had no violence, not deaths or injuries AND VERY LITTLE PRESS COVERAGE, and is the press coverage these people wanted.


    MY disappointment is with the reaction. Let them have their damn march. The protesters provided the conflict, which provided the violence, which provided the news coverage. A simple, peaceful, non protested event would have been a tiny blip on the news. They wanted publicity, and their enemies gave it to them.
    You reckon that these guys would have just packed up and gone home without a fight if they were unopposed?
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    Love the irony of the caption put to this image.


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    NO. Just letting them march unopposed sends a message of tacit acceptance. An effective photo opp though would be to line the march route and silently turn their backs as they march by. Or do a Cersei walk and just chant shame - shame - shame at them all along the route.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerarddm View Post
    NO. Just letting them march unopposed sends a message of tacit acceptance. An effective photo opp though would be to line the march route and silently turn their backs as they march by. Or do a Cersei walk and just chant shame - shame - shame at them all along the route.
    Or give them an empty street.

    Letting them march does not show acceptance - it shows respect for the rule of law. That assumes they have a legal permit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Ross View Post
    Wouldn't have thought it of you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ishmael View Post
    I've read through the thread, but not all the links. Is the size of the demonstration/counter-demonstration mentioned? Does anyone have a sense of how big the whacko right wing is in the country?
    It reaches all the way up into Bangor, Maine...

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    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40915569

    The Southern Poverty Law Center, a civil rights organisation, says that "Trump's run for office electrified the radical right, which saw in him a champion of the idea that America is fundamentally a white man's country."
    ...
    How did President Trump react?
    Mr Trump said he condemned "in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence on many sides".
    "The hate and the division must stop right now," he told reporters, speaking in New Jersey, where he is on a working holiday. "We have to come together as Americans with love for our nation."
    But his comments did not explicitly condemn the white extremist groups involved in the rally.

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