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    Default Swedish snipor / snipans traditional fishing / sailboat - any information please

    Hi,

    A friend came across the 'snipor' (with transom?) / 'snipans' (double-ender?) on the island of Olands in eastern Sweden.

    It's a pretty sprit-rigged fishing boat very much in the Scandanavian / Viking style.

    There's a page here about one of them (all in Swedish), and a Wikipedia page here.

    I haven't found anything in English yet ... or can one of you give a summary please? ;-)

    Thanks, Patrick




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    Default Re: Swedish snipor / snipans traditional fishing / sailboat - any information please

    Snipa means double ended boat, snipor is plural of snipa

    /Mats
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    Default Re: Swedish snipor / snipans traditional fishing / sailboat - any information please

    Open the website http://www.hjoss.se/Snipor/

    Copy the first three lines into Google and search. Google will find the website and offer to translate it.
    That gets you to here:
    The old Vättersnipan from the 40's and 50's has again come to honor in the company's sailing. Vättersnipan used to be both a utility and raceboat boat with large starting fields on the regattas around Vättern.In Hjo there were up to 20 boats. Its dimensions and sail area were regulated by the Vätterns Sailing Federation in 1947. The maximum length is 6 meters and the width is at least 1.5 meters. The segment could be 10 or 12 sqm. At the end of the 50s, the snails snapped out, the snips were scattered and replaced by more modern boats.
    Not a perfect translation, but you get the idea.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Default Re: Swedish snipor / snipans traditional fishing / sailboat - any information please

    In the lake Vättern you have Vättersnipor, in the lake Vänern you have Vänersnipor. Ölandssnipor on the island Öland, Kalmarsundssnipor in the waters between Öland and the mainland, Gotlandssnipor on the island Gotland and so on...

    /Mats
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    Default Re: Swedish snipor / snipans traditional fishing / sailboat - any information please

    Hi Nick and Mats,

    Thanks, that's great. Have now also found these - it seems that this is a popular boat there. Simple and functional boats like these are, not surprisingly, found all over the world. They share many similarities, but like the houses they reflect the life of the local communities - and their culture, traditions, sperstitions skill and materials - hence the subtle variations.

    This site is all about snipan (some pages in English), the historical photos are great:
    http://www.olandssnipan.se/

    Here's a boatbuilder if you fancy a genuine one ;-)
    http://www.nyhamnssag.se/nyhamn/en/b...dpictures.html

    This is a sailing club:
    http://www.nyhamnssag.se/nyhamn/en/b...dpictures.html

    And I think this one is for sale? Modern adaptation!
    http://www.isloep.se/

    Ciao, Patrick

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    Default Re: Swedish snipor / snipans traditional fishing / sailboat - any information please

    I have a Vatternsnipa, built on the island of Visingso. There is now only a handfull of vatternsnipa left in Hjo, 4 on display for tourists and have only seen another 2 in use this year. The Hjo sailing club has tried to get a new generation interested, but they seem more interested in looking at things on an iphone and playing computer games, such is the advance of humankind.


    heres a thread from 7 years ago.... http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthre...ds-a-Ness-Yawl

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    Default Re: Swedish snipor / snipans traditional fishing / sailboat - any information please

    You know about Bertil's site?

    https://batritningar.se/en/

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    Hi, Thank you all for your contributions.

    The current WB258 magazine has a feature on Norway's 'Strandebarmer' which look (to my inexpert eye) superficially similar ...

    Steven, no I did not know about Bertil's site ... what a great resource (personal view, English speakers are not so good at bothering with sites in other languages, and so we miss so much ...).

    skaraborcraft, thank you for the link, and the photos really help me get a feel for the craft and the sprit rigging - of particular interest because we are experimenting with rigs for an Irish fishing boat used on the Shannon estuary (see photo on this Tweet).

    Incidentally, Albin (of the Oland tourist office) provided a translation for me from a couple of Swedish websites - thanks to him:

    -------------- From: "Ölands Turistbyrå" <info@oland.se>
    Subject: SV: Thank you - Oland snippor
    Hello!

    Ölandssnipan is the term that we use in Swedish for a singlely constructed [one example of a?] boat. When we talk about Ölandssnipor it's a term for the word "Ölanadssnipan" but in plurals.

    Ölandssnipan can be constructed and found as made for 1 person, 2 persons or even 3 persons. Hence why the construction of the boats may differ. The construction of the boat may vary depending on the number of masts and how many people the boat has been constructed for. Ölandssniporna was used both for fishing and transports. Usually the seventeen feet boats (around 5 meters) were constructed for a single person. The bigger ones could be over 30 feet and where built to equip two or three "sprisegel" [spritsails]. The bigger boats were used to transport letters and packages between Öland and Gotland around the 1500th century up until the 1700th century. Goods transports too and from the mainland were usually made over the sea with on an Ölandssnipa, and even the royal capital transported their members with Ölandssnipor. Nowdays, each year, there is a race including the Ölandssnipor taking place outside of Byxelkrok.

    Hope this information will give you some more information about the history about the Ölandssnipa.

    Best Regards, Albin

    PS: The information I found about the Ölandssnipor is translated by me from Wikipedia published by an unknown author and also from the following links:

    http://www.olandssnipan.se/index.php...d=69&Itemid=48
    https://www.alltpaoland.com/platser/olandssnipan/


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    Default Re: Swedish snipor / snipans traditional fishing / sailboat - any information please

    Quote Originally Posted by pbeautement View Post
    [...]
    Ölandssnipan is the term that we use in Swedish for a singlely constructed [one example of a?] boat. When we talk about Ölandssnipor it's a term for the word "Ölanadssnipan" but in plurals.
    [...]
    The bigger boats were used to transport letters and packages between Öland and Gotland around the 1500th century up until the 1700th century.
    [...]
    Snipa = Double Ender
    Snipan = The Double Ender
    Snipor = Double Enders
    Sniporna = The Double Enders

    I believe it should be 16th to 18th century, but my guess would be that it kept on during the 19th century too. (We don't use "century" for naming eh centuries, so it is a bit confusing for us and many gets it wrong.)

    /Mats
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    Hi Mats,
    Thanks. That makes it much clearer.
    P

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    Default Re: Swedish snipor / snipans traditional fishing / sailboat - any information please

    A boat with a transom is usually called "eka", but "eka" can also mean pram, and there are other regional words, such as the west coast "julle" for a smallish boat with a transom.
    Also, a double ender in the south east is called "rundgatting" (boat with a rounded stern) and a larger double ended boat on the west coast is called "kåg". There is also the life boat "valbåt" (Whale Boat), once common on military ships, which is a double ender.
    To complicate things, there are quite a few Swedes who think "snipa" means "boat with a motor" and get totally confused when a sailing boat is called a snipa, so more and more common are sailing snipas referred to as "segelsnipa" (double ender with sail/s)

    /Mats
    My blog about my time as a boat building student and as a rigger apprentice http://kaptenmohsart.blogspot.se/ in Swedish only, but there are many pictures :-)

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