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    Quote Originally Posted by twodot View Post
    You troll for entirely different reasons than D.N.
    I'm not sure if that's good or bad... why do you troll?
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    Twodot, I applaud your gamesmanship. I am weary of enthusiastically ignorant trolls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillip Allen View Post
    I had no idea that Kennedy was a climatologist... amazing
    Daniel seems to think him capable of anything (& responsible for everything) - so why not a climatologist?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garret View Post
    Daniel seems to think him capable of anything (& responsible for everything) - so why not a climatologist?
    Wasn't much of a driver.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Noyes View Post
    interesting, but dont' the experts have a "vested interest" in their own funding?
    Nope. Proving global warming wasn't happening would be far more lucrative, to say nothing of almost certainly winning a Nobel prize.

    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Noyes View Post
    Vulcanologists like to tell of "Super eruptions
    Yes, because we have evidence those things happen. But they are not an immediate risk we can do something about.

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    star gazers are warning about underfunding the search for earth crossing extinction level event asteroids
    Yes, because we have evidence those things happen. But they are not an immediate risk we can do something about.

    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Noyes View Post
    and climatetologists were at it in the 1970's warnign that the next great Ice Age was imminent.
    Actually, the vast majority of papers correctly predicted warming. You're thinking of articles in news media, which are a poor source of information on science.

    https://www.skepticalscience.com/ice...s-in-1970s.htm

    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Noyes View Post
    fact is chicken little scare tactics by "experts" translate into real $ amounts for their research budgets.
    So, what exactly are you trying to say here? Are you suggesting that experts aren't really experts, or are you suggesting that we shouldn't investigate phenomena that are likely to kill or displace many millions of people and cause many billions, maybe trillions, of dollars worth of property damage if we don't do something to prevent it? That seems kind of stupid.

    Oh, wait. Forgot who I was conversing with for a second there. Sorry.
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    I know a lot of Democrats, and what most of them need is an intelligent and well-informed person holding an opposing viewpoint with whom they might debate issues of substance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Orca View Post
    Nope. Proving global warming wasn't happening would be far more lucrative, to say nothing of almost certainly winning a Nobel prize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterSibley View Post
    The sure road to vast wealth and fame ... prove Global Warming is a hoax...... but it hasn't been done !
    Peculiar, ain't it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by twodot View Post
    I vehemently disagree.
    Hey, thanks, very kind. I also disagree with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L.W. Baxter View Post
    I know a lot of Democrats, and what most of them need is an intelligent and well-informed person holding an opposing viewpoint with whom they might debate issues of substance.
    You don't mean noyes do you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbgusa View Post
    Can you tell me the global temperature on October 11,2017at 4:00 p.m. EDT?
    Why is a specific number important? We can tell you that it was warmer than Oct 11, 2016 at 4:00PM EDT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoeyawl View Post
    Why is a specific number important?
    Because he is a nuclear grade dingbat who has absolutely no idea what he is discussing?

    Your turn.
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    The OP has ripped out a page from the President's play book. It's all just distraction. The emperor has no clothes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbgusa View Post
    Nuclear grade dingbat? I'll have to remember that insult.

    But either we're discussing temperatures or we're not.
    Not an insult, a description. You ignorance of the topic does know no bounds.
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    An interesting, and not completely unfamiliar, pattern.

    What are you doing about it?




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    Quote Originally Posted by jbgusa View Post
    Can you tell me the global temperature on October 11,2017at 4:00 p.m. EDT?
    Can you tell me what the terms Tropic, Temperate, and Arctic mean in terms of temperature?
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    You have just demonstrated you really have no idea, if you can't tell the difference between religion and science.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbgusa View Post
    Can you tell me the global temperature on October 11,2017at 4:00 p.m. EDT?
    Quote Originally Posted by Peerie Maa View Post
    Can you tell me what the terms Tropic, Temperate, and Arctic mean in terms of temperature?
    Quote Originally Posted by jbgusa View Post
    Nothing. Those are zones that don't relate directly to temperature.
    And there we have it folks. Ignorance personified.


    Monthly average surface temperatures from 1961–1990.

    This is why we are conversing with a nuclear grade dingbat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbgusa View Post
    It's a religion, not science.
    Oddly enough, the world's scientists, in the form of every single major scientific body and national science academy in the world, disagree with you.

    Hmmmm, I wonder which of you is more likely to be right.
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    This whole thread is like some sort of bazaar troll relay race. 20 pages maybe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CK 17 View Post
    This whole thread is like some sort of bazaar troll relay race. 20 pages maybe?
    Images in my mind of trolls running a race through the Izmir bazaar handing off hookahs instead of batons.
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    jbgusa, if they're calling you names, at least you're not in ignore... yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmd View Post
    jbgusa, if they're calling you names, at least you're not in ignore... yet.
    Quote Originally Posted by jbgusa View Post
    Can you tell me the global temperature on October 11,2017at 4:00 p.m. EDT?
    Quote Originally Posted by Peerie Maa View Post
    Not an insult, a description. You ignorance of the topic does know no bounds.

    Not an insult, a description.
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    Nuclear grade is special, up there with Nuclear Grade Plumb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbgusa View Post
    Can you tell me the global temperature on October 11,2017at 4:00 p.m. EDT?
    Approximately, sure, as soon as you define which datasets you wish to include and how you propose to define the "global temperature". But by way of demonstrating why this is a silly question, consider this: do you need to know the position of a particular cell in your little finger to the nearest nanometre in order to know whether your hand is rising or falling?

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    It doesn't really matter what jbgusasays or even believes. The planet doesn't care, the weather doesn't care, the climate doesn't care. His grandkids world will be badly impacted as will everyone else's And he won't be around anyhow so he only cares about how any attempts at mitigation will effect him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbgusa View Post
    Nothing. Those are zones that don't relate directly to temperature.

    The Tropical Zone is between the Tropic of Cancer on the north and tropic of Capricorn on the south. Within that zone there are some spotty areas of temperate and arctic conditions caused by elevation.

    The temperate zone in the north is from the Tropic of Cancer to the Arctic Circle, where there is one day of 24 hour daylight and one day of 24 hour darkness. The temperate zone in the south is from the Tropic of Capricorn to the Antarctic Circle, where there is one day of 24 hour daylight and one day of 24 hour darkness. There are spotty areas of arctic or antarctic conditions based mostly on elevation.

    The Arctic zone is from the Arctic Circle to the North Pole. The Antarctic zone is from the Antarctic Circle to the South Pole.
    Im curious by what you mean about the one day of 24 hour daylight etc?
    I might also point out that we are getting record breaking temperatures here and have been for a number of years now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WX View Post
    Im curious by what you mean about the one day of 24 hour daylight etc?
    I might also point out that we are getting record breaking temperatures here and have been for a number of years now.
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-1...-smart/8194182
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    Quote Originally Posted by WX View Post
    Im curious by what you mean about the one day of 24 hour daylight etc?
    He means that the Arctic and Antarctic Circles are defined as the latitude above (or below) which there is one day a year when the sun does not rise, and one day a year when the sun does not set. Essentially, 90 degrees minus the amount of the planet's axial tilt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Orca View Post
    Oddly enough, the world's scientists, in the form of every single major scientific body and national science academy in the world, disagree with you.
    Thats because they are conspiring with China to destroy American coal miners jobs!!!

    How many times will I have to say this before everyone understands what is happening. Don't you get it? China and American coal miners. If China, NASA and the CSIRO can bring down American coal miners jobs they'll get heaps of stuff. HEAPS!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garret View Post
    Do you know exactly how many coal miners there are that are out of work? Please look it up - it's way fewer than you think. WAY fewer.
    I heard an interesting little piece the other day; there are more yoga instructors in the USA than coal miners.

    You see - that's what this debate has been reduced to - yoga instructors!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gypsie View Post
    I heard an interesting little piece the other day; there are more yoga instructors in the USA than coal miners.

    You see - that's what this debate has been reduced to - yoga instructors!
    More Sears sales associates than coal miners too. We all know what's happening to Sears...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Noyes View Post
    interesting, but dont' the experts have a "vested interest" in their own funding? I wonder if there are any Scientific Studies done that explore how sensational headlines in the press and public hysteria affect public and private funding for related research?.
    Exactly!

    China the CSIRO and NASA will get Heaps!!!
    You seem to be the only person who gets this Dan - if the globe is warming scientists get heaps of stuff. If it isn't then there is no need for scientists at all and they won't get heaps of stuff.
    Its all about scientists, and China, getting heaps of stuff.

    Global warming = Scientists get heaps
    No global warming = Scientists don't get heaps of stuff.

    here's a scientific graph to prove it;





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