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    Anybody own one?

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    Jeff, I had a poor imitation --- a replica on a VW platform (Duchess Royale) -- I would have loved to have had a real one

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    I love the the looks of the car...to the point where I almost forget that a1991 Ford Escort could run rings around one...

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    A very long time ago, I wish I still owned it .Black, 1 1/2''SUs ,extractors .

    google photo, not mine but similar.



    Not really fast but fast enough to escape 3 large thugs in a Ford Customline who wished me harm.
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    There's a rower here who drives one daily. Original owner!
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    It's kinda interesting to compare a TD to a Model A...engine specs, brake systems, top speed and overall performance, and design and construction. There are differences of course, but some of the similarities are striking.

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    Friend has a TF roadster; only one I've ridden in.
    There's a lot of things they didn't tell me when I signed on with this outfit....

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    My boss races an MGB, does that count?
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    I've only seen under the hood once, and it was long ago. I seem to remember a little drive shaft coming out the back of the generator. A link to the tachometer?
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    When I was in San Juan 2nd time with the USN, I was assigned to the Port Services division (since I were a BOSINZ MATE) to run tugboats. The CO of Port Services was a mustang LCDR who'd been passed over so many times we all thought there was something Hebraic in his lineage, but he owned a stone-stock MGTD, BRG, Brit steering, Lucas electrics (sorry, didn't mean to make anyone scream aloud, there)(Nor did I mean to imply that 1950's era Lucas products had ANYTHING to do with ACTUAL electrics), wifty-shifting transmission and those enormous wire-wheels (which I could true up easily)(It's a gift.) AND (or, "as well as...") the censored-censored carburettors. Damn if I remember what their names were (probably Beelzebub and Mephistopheles) but I had SOOO much more fun farging with that little piece of English tin than I did trying to get the old Baldwin 6 cyl locomotive engine in my tug to be running consistently. (That tug was a wonder. Launched 1903 as a steamer, converted 1921 to an oiler, but then rebuilt at No-f*ck 1932 as a diesel, using an obsolete Baldwin 6 cyl locomotive diesel that was bloody near as tall as I was. We'd a 3-blade ten-foot prob and could do (down hill and with all sail set) maybe 9 knots on a VERY good day. Usually we were happy with 6 kt, but hook the old girl to a LARGE vessel, and 6kt you'd get... all day, every day. She was decommissioned in '74 when the base closed and on her way up to No-F*ck, under tow, she sank. Good old warrior.) (Just like the LCDR.)
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    I had a '48 TC. BRG. Cycle guards, Lucas electrics etc. etc. Marschall driving lights that slowed the car when turned on. It leaked of course, it was cold and it smelt of oil. Great car 5 days a year, but it 'pulled the birds' alright.

    BTW, mum raced a supercharged boat tailed '34 P type during the 1950's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leikec View Post


    It's kinda interesting to compare a TD to a Model A...engine specs, brake systems, top speed and overall performance, and design and construction. There are differences of course, but some of the similarities are striking.

    Jeff C
    There's a lot less wood in a model A!
    The TD is 1200cc's against the A's 3300 for the same horsepower.
    The TD has way better brakes...
    The A has higher quality steel.

    But indeed they are similar, especially the roadster, folding windscreen and all. The A was built to a higher standard in my opinion, but that was mostly a function of scale as Henry built 3500 model A's each day for 4 years... that would eclipse the total TD production of 30,000 in just 10 days!

    (I have had both and had them all to bits, the A's are gone and I'm still enjoying the TD. And comparing them almost daily. Sometimes the TD has more similarity to an old speed boat than to a Ford! The construction of the TD is the same as the old coach built cars even older than the model A. Mostly all done by hand, basically a sawn wooden frame upholstered with sheet steel using hammers and nails.)

    edit to add; That black TD looks just right, original, no embellishments, steel wheels, correct color top and upholstery, Perfect!
    They are reasonably priced these days, maybe you can "trade" your Corvair...
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    I have a lead on a very nice TR4 if anyone is intrigued. It has not gone on the market yet. Mostly original, BRG, I rebuilt the motor about ten years ago, I think it has about 500 miles on it since then.

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    I was crazy for them when I was a kid, but I never owned one. My very first car was a $125 MGA though -- similar, but with a lovely envelope body. A lot of people will laugh at those old English cars, and lord knows, they do have their comical aspects, but they are, in their way, fine machines. Nice too, that they have not gone crazy in price. Having owned both, they are certainly (IMHO) a much better value today than old Porsches like the 356 coupe that replaced my MGA. The prices asked for them now are completely insane.

    Back to TD's -- There was a fellow in my little town when I was a boy who owed a Jaguar Mark VII. He totaled it in a nasty roll-over wreck. Shortly thereafter he bought a TD, and swapped in the lovely twin cam six from the Jag into the MG. He drove it every Summer for years and years -- I wonder whatever happened to that car?

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    Buy it now ! I would .

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    Cousin had a Y type saloon, all leather and woodwork with a slide back roof that didn't leak and a hydraulic self-jacking system!
    Exactly like this one. An elegant little car.

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    Zagato bodied Y type……drool…….

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    And a local Y type, built in Victoria
    MG "Y" type chassis
    "Wal Mitchell" Buchanan MG special: body # 38
    built by East Burwood Motors in Victoria on a shortened and lightened MG "Y" chassis. One of two Buchanans raced by "Wal" Mitchell 1960-61. MGA engine and gearbox now fitted. Under restoration 2007, owned by Mathew Liersch and Clark Watson, Albury/Woodonga VIC



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    The ZA was pretty good too, a police car in the UK I think, TF mechanicals.

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    My Dad bought one new in 1952 when he was still in the navy. He saw an almost exact match about 60 years later at the AACA meet in Hershey one year when they came to visit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Bow View Post
    I've only seen under the hood once, and it was long ago. I seem to remember a little drive shaft coming out the back of the generator. A link to the tachometer?
    Yes.

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    TD pieces are still in the barn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred Z View Post
    I prefer the TF in MGs, however I'll always love this:

    I had the same model. Pretty rare--a transition from the TR 2. Drove to California and back the summer of 1964.

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    My mom still has her '53 TD: her first car, bought second-hand from her brother. All original; BRG, of course. I'm hoping it'll one day --ideally not for a long while!-- find its way my garage. Ye gods, what a fun car!

    Her father had a '52(?) TD, bright yellow, TC wire-spoke wheels. That's now in my uncle's garage.

    I think only MGTDs could make me break my rule to never post in The Bilge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoeyawl View Post
    There's a lot less wood in a model A!
    The TD is 1200cc's against the A's 3300 for the same horsepower.
    The TD has way better brakes...
    The A has higher quality steel.

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    Is it fair to point out the A preceded the TD by almost thirty years.
    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    Trying a new image hosting service
    Here's a shot of the Volvo engine in the TD, there are still a bunch of "loose ends" to clean up!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    Is it fair to point out the A preceded the TD by almost thirty years.
    Yes, but even so the A in many respects was a more advanced vehicle. In materials and production technique at least.

    To be fair the coach-built A bodies by both Murray and Briggs had every bit as much wood and nails in them. And for that reason those models are frowned upon as a condidate for restoration. The combination of skill levels required to work with complex curved wood framing as in a boat and sheet metal skills make these expensive projects with low resale value. Which is also the case with the TD. If one has to replace or repair the wood, there is the prospect of a couple of hundred hours of highly skilled work. Hiring it done won't work, and the pratical option is to do it only if you like to. Most of the TD's I see these days are either good or parted out, older restorations can be good or junk. I predict this will change though. I see on ebay every few days a different TD being parted out, and soon enough an available entire car as a candidate for restoration will be more scarce.
    It allows for some license when building one when you know that when it is done and you have about 50k worth of work in it, that it will bring maybe 20 in the marketplace. A good solid original TD might not be a bad investment if you can store it properly, and exercise it a little but you better know what you are looking at!

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    Putting a reliable engine in a TD is like putting.... oh, never mind.

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    Exhibit "A"
    To replace the body sills and door jambs you really should remove the body from the frame, weeks of work. But a carefull sheetmetal man can cut the body in half, put on his boatbuilder's hat, reframe it with new Ash then weld it back together again...




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    At least the car I'm building from wood is a toy.

    Pictures look good. Those door frame shots are nice. Neat cars, eh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoeyawl View Post
    What is this? (Jaguar?) And why would a six cylinder DOHC engine only have two SUs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan McCosh View Post
    Putting a reliable engine in a TD is like putting.... oh, never mind.
    The only saving grace is I didn't do it... and Imwouldn't have, it came that way! And in fact the "value" as a collector car was ruined so it was available (with a reliable engine <snicker>) for a song...
    (I am still rounding up parts to bring it back)

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