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    [IMc - Gelernter shows that one may be truly brilliant in one field and totally crackers in others. It should be noted that computer science, like math, is not always about reality.]

    TRUMP SCIENCE ADVISOR DENIES APOLLO MOON LANDINGS EVER HAPPENED

    Donald Trump’s newly appointed science and technology advisor, Yale University professor David Gelernter, has already attracted a barrage of criticism after making controversial statements this week during an exclusive interview with Science Today.

    The controversial computer scientist already known for his strong stance against the science behind global warming has openly and vehemently criticized the space policy of the Barack Obama administration and its goal to reach Mars in 2030.

    “ How can we manage to organize a U.S.-crewed orbital Mars mission by the mid-2030s when we never even went to the moon? The idea is laughable, as was Obama’s administration, if I may add ” – Yale Professor David Gelernter

    “The Apollo moon landings are the biggest fraud in mankind’s history, even worse than all that global warming nonsense,” he added.

    A voyage that never was

    This is not the first time the controversial professor has attacked the Apollo moon landings. In his 2012 book America-Lite: How Imperial Academia Dismantled Our Culture (and Ushered in the Obamacrats) the author voices his concerns about the impossibility of space travel outside the Earth’s magnetic field.

    “In the modern age, we have never been outside the Earth’s magnetic field. With the exception of the alleged 24 human beings who flew lunar flights in the Apollo program during the four-year period spanning 1968 through 1972, all human spaceflights have taken place in low Earth orbit (LEO) or below. Even the International Space Station conducts all its operations in LEO,” he explained in his book.

    “Why is that? This is because orbits higher than low orbit can lead to early failure of electronic components due to intense radiation and charge accumulation,” he wrote.

    A dangerous belt of radiation

    The Yale professor also documented in his book how NASA was, and still is, aware of the impossibility of traveling beyond the Van Allen Belt, a highly charged radioactive belt that is part of the planet’s magnetic field.

    “The Apollo missions were supposed to be the first event where humans traveled through the Van Allen belts, which was one of several radiation hazards known by mission planners, but even today, NASA scientists admit they can’t get past the Van Allen Belts” he claims in his 2012 book.

    “If NASA scientists honestly admit in 2012 that they still haven’t worked out how to properly shield the spacecraft from the radiation emitted from the Van Allen belts, how the hell did we send human beings into space covered in aluminum foil suits? At a particular time when the Solar activity was at its peak? The answer is simple: It just never happened,” he concluded on the matter.

    Despite his controversial claims, David Gelernter is a world-renown and multiple award-winning computer scientist known for his contributions to parallel computation and his early prediction of the rise of the World Wide Web.

    Time Magazine profiled Gelernter as one of the 100 most influential people of the 21st century in 2016, describing him as an “arch-genius.” The New York Times called him a computer science “rock star” and “one of the most brilliant and visionary computer scientists of our time.”

    http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/trum...ever-happened/

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    I shakes me head.

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    One can criticize the value of a manned mission to Mars without being a show boating nut case.

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    Just because you know about computers it doesn't mean you know beans about space travel. Kind of like an accountant telling you how to do brain surgery.
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    I'm surprised that the University that employs him have not introduced him to some scientists. Ones that can tell him how science works. That or advised him to STFU and stop bringing his university into disrepute.
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    Looks like his qualification is that he's pro-Trump, anti-Left and that the problem with America is that people didn't grow up like him.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.0dfef517b75d

    In some ways, Gelernter is a characteristic Trump appointee. He shares the president-elect's bombastic rhetorical style and disdain for elites. In an October op-ed in the Wall Street Journal in which he reluctantly endorsed Trump, Gelernter compared President Obama to a “third-rate tyrant” and called Hillary Clinton a “phony.”

    But he would be an unusual choice for the role of science adviser. If appointed, he would be the first computer scientist to take the job, and the first adviser who is not a member of the National Academy of Sciences. He has expressed doubt about the reality of man-made climate change — something that 97 percent of active researchers agree is a problem. And his anti-intellectualism makes him an outlier among scientists.

    Andrew Rosenberg, director of the Center for Science and Democracy at the Union of Concerned Scientists, said he hadn't heard of Gelernter until Tuesday.

    “He’s certainly not mainstream in the science community or particularly well known,” Rosenberg said. “His views even on most of the key science questions aren't known. Considering the huge range of issues the White House needs to consider, I don’t know if he has that kind of capability.”

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    Deliberate wilful intentional ignorance.

    I adored Buzz Aldrin's response to this, and greatly admired the judge's, later.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZGuRxtUJrw

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    Go Buzz! It should be legal to punch obnoxious a$$hats!
    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Hadfield View Post
    Deliberate wilful intentional ignorance.

    I adored Buzz Aldrin's response to this, and greatly admired the judge's, later.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZGuRxtUJrw
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Hadfield View Post
    Deliberate wilful intentional ignorance.

    I adored Buzz Aldrin's response to this, and greatly admired the judge's, later.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZGuRxtUJrw
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    What was the Judge's response?


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    Actually I see it never made to court. The police determined Buzz was provoked. Charges were not laid.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buzz_Aldrin

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    Too bad he didn't follow that overhand right with a left cross.

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    What is computer science scientific about? What is it, beyond engineering and math?
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    ^ It appears that he develops parallel computing algorithms. It's not science as I see science, but why quibble?

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    This is a perfect example of Trump making America a laughing stock around the world .
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    dude survived a unabomber mailbomb
    and having done so decided to become the douchebag he remains to this day
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    Quote Originally Posted by CWSmith View Post
    ^ It appears that he develops parallel computing algorithms. It's not science as I see science, but why quibble?

    Why would he be science advisor if he ain't no scientist? You could be an administrator, like head of NASA, but not an advisor. An advisor explains to the decider.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osborne Russell View Post
    Why would he be science advisor if he ain't no scientist? You could be an administrator, like head of NASA, but not an advisor. An advisor explains to the decider.
    Well, I think you are sneaking up on the truth. "Why should he be a science advisor when he is anti-science?"

    The answer is that Trump wants people around him that will tell him what he wants to hear. If he can't find a true scientist with real credentials to do it, then he turns to unqualified self-promoters who will go along for the same reasons that Trump goes where he goes - fame, power, and everything for himself.

    Let's be honest. Any politician can have opinions, but a true leader seeks the truth to make informed decisions. If Trump wanted to lead the country, he would find the best and the brightest and have them keep him properly informed. He does not want that. He wants to pursue the course he has already set for himself. Trump is not a leader. He is using the power of the presidency to promote himself.

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    Didn't George W. Bush graduate from Yale?

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    Well we don't have a Science Minister, and the Chief Scientists latest report has not been released.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chip-skiff View Post
    Didn't George W. Bush graduate from Yale?

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    Yup, some OS students here, whose parent's pay top dollar, expect a degree regardless of their results because it's been paid for.

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    Actually I googled this and other that the article in the OP I couldn't find a reference that he'd actually been hired.

    Just the preferred choice.

    Which of course is not saying much either...

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